GPU upgrade timing

[Si3Rra_7]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qsF7fv

This is my current build. 3700x and a GTX1070. So i need a GPU upgrade YESTERDAY. Thinking of getting a RX7800(sapphire) and a 5800x3D to balance it out.

While the RX7800 seems like the best bang for buck, this whole fucking generation has thrown off all my common sense. AMD doesn't release the 7800 and 7700 for 9 MONTHS, nVidia is mad as a bug on pricing and they delayed their midrange releases aswell.

 

So help me gauge on how good the timing is to buy a GPU right now, including rumor mill info. Is nVidia about reduce prices? Or pull a "super" semi-generational refresh like they did with the 20 series? Or even bust out the 5000 series to fix their shit?

 

Need to make sure I don't make a mistake cause these European prices are killing me man. Same prices compared to western europe on a eastern europe salary... (the 7800xt is 680 euros for reference).

[PcBeExpensive]

18 minutes ago, Si3Rra_7 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qsF7fv

This is my current build. 3700x and a GTX1070. So i need a GPU upgrade YESTERDAY. Thinking of getting a RX7800(sapphire) and a 5800x3D to balance it out.

While the RX7800 seems like the best bang for buck, this whole fucking generation has thrown off all my common sense. AMD doesn't release the 7800 and 7700 for 9 MONTHS, nVidia is mad as a bug on pricing and they delayed their midrange releases aswell.

 

So help me gauge on how good the timing is to buy a GPU right now, including rumor mill info. Is nVidia about reduce prices? Or pull a "super" semi-generational refresh like they did with the 20 series? Or even bust out the 5000 series to fix their shit?

 

Need to make sure I don't make a mistake cause these European prices are killing me man. Same prices compared to western europe on a eastern europe salary... (the 7800xt is 680 euros for reference).

Instead of the 7800 XT buy a used 6950 XT from ebay, you should be able to get one for around 650 euros. Then you could buy a 5800x3d.

[Si3Rra_7]

39 minutes ago, PcBeExpensive said:

Instead of the 7800 XT buy a used 6950 XT from ebay, you should be able to get one for around 650 euros. Then you could buy a 5800x3d.

won't most of those be mined on? don't really personally trust 2nd hand market. 

 

EDIT: also, not with that power consumption. i did post my build which has 650W PSU. 

[Quackers101]

As reviews come out, the 6800XT seems like the 6000 series are still a decent performer in raster.

Although the 6000 series might not get all the features like 7000 or when 8000 comes, not sure how that stuff will be handled.

Also you have recording and stuff, as the 7000 uses AV1? so most of the newer ones have some added benefits or if one likes Nvidia's Nvenc.

(7000-8000 series might be more dedicated for AMD AI solutions, I would assume?)

 

but agree the prices are a bit wild when seeing older cards that nearly outperform newer ones, but just for an GPU the 6800xt or higher often is sometimes on sale or used market. if one is experienced and knows what to look for, like the used market or other cards that you might want for a certain reason.

 

5800x3D is a nice CPU, but could get limited for future upgrades/changed and it's a bit in a weird spot, but can be a nice I guess and whatever its price is.

Edited September 6, 2023 by Quackers101

[191x7]

3 minutes ago, Si3Rra_7 said:

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The 7800XT is, pretty much, just a 6800XT with new features like AV1, potentially better new feature support in the drivers etc.

 

The 6800 non-XT might still be the value king.

[Retro_R]

I'm pretty much in the same place, except i alr have the 5800x3d and i have a 5700xt. Personally, i'm probably gonna get the 7800xt. Yeah, it may not be a crazy performance lift from last gen, but it performs the same, is the same price, is a lot more efficient and has new features. So it kinda just makes sense to get it, unless you find a crazy 6800xt deal or something. But for me, the 7800xt seems good for the time being

 

as for the cpu, i would say get the 5800x3d, you can keep the same motherboard and ram and still get major performance uplift. Maybe next gen will be the time to pull the trigger. But if you're upgrading i think the 5800x3d is the best option.

[DesolationGod]

i mean i have a 1060 6gb card currently, just ordered the asrock 7800xt challenger card from newegg for $500 usd and it came with starfield premium free worth $100 so id say its a great time to buy, especially if your coming from a much older generation. Great price and if you dont currently have a 6800xt then the improvement comparisons to it mean nothing in the real world to you.

[PcBeExpensive]

2 hours ago, Si3Rra_7 said:

won't most of those be mined on? don't really personally trust 2nd hand market. 

 

EDIT: also, not with that power consumption. i did post my build which has 650W PSU. 

well the 7800 XT isn't great in terms of like pricing-performance. Also 650 would be fine, if a 4090 can run on a 550w PSU with an undervolt a 6950 XT can run on a 650w just fine. Also you could undervolt it so PSU won't be an issue, you can change that out to a 750w later when you have some extra money. Also they don't necessarily have to be mining cards, I'm pretty sure thats still more popular with Nvidia cards. Also mining doesn't necessarily damage the cards.

[Si3Rra_7]

36 minutes ago, PcBeExpensive said:

well the 7800 XT isn't great in terms of like pricing-performance. Also 650 would be fine, if a 4090 can run on a 550w PSU with an undervolt a 6950 XT can run on a 650w just fine. Also you could undervolt it so PSU won't be an issue, you can change that out to a 750w later when you have some extra money. Also they don't necessarily have to be mining cards, I'm pretty sure thats still more popular with Nvidia cards. Also mining doesn't necessarily damage the cards.

what do you mean, the 7800XT is the best new GPU for price-performance 

[PcBeExpensive]

58 minutes ago, Si3Rra_7 said:

what do you mean, the 7800XT is the best new GPU for price-performance 

I mean you could say that but if you could get a 6950 XT for cheaper why would you not?

[Bapoh]

6 hours ago, 191x7 said:

The 7800XT is, pretty much, just a 6800XT with new features like AV1, potentially better new feature support in the drivers etc.

 

The 6800 non-XT might still be the value king.

can you mention these features difference between 6800 xt and 7800 xt?

I'm still rocking 1060 and now moving to 1440p gaming, which won't cut it. so I'm definitely will get either one, just curious what features I will be missing (nvidia is way overpriced in my country and I don't turn RT on)

 

and how much price gap between 6800 xt and 7800 xt that's "make sense" or justified?

[191x7]

2 hours ago, Bapoh said:

can you mention these features difference between 6800 xt and 7800 xt?

I'm still rocking 1060 and now moving to 1440p gaming, which won't cut it. so I'm definitely will get either one, just curious what features I will be missing (nvidia is way overpriced in my country and I don't turn RT on)

 

and how much price gap between 6800 xt and 7800 xt that's "make sense" or justified?

Besides AV1 encoding and decoding, the other features would be:

AMD Radeon™ Anti-Lag+ - https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-software-anti-lag

AMD HYPR-RX - a new driver experience that allows users to optimize their games using AMD Software features for their RDNA3-based Radeon GPUs, achieving increased performance and lower latency with ease.

Potentially better frame generation in FSR 3.0 (not a thing yet)

Pretty much nothing that really matters. XD

 

A 7800XT should be priced roughly the same as the 6800XT to be a better option. Maybe 10-30€ more would be acceptable to consider.

In my mind, it's the same card.

[DeerDK]

10 hours ago, Si3Rra_7 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qsF7fv

This is my current build. 3700x and a GTX1070. So i need a GPU upgrade YESTERDAY. Thinking of getting a RX7800(sapphire) and a 5800x3D to balance it out.

While the RX7800 seems like the best bang for buck, this whole fucking generation has thrown off all my common sense. AMD doesn't release the 7800 and 7700 for 9 MONTHS, nVidia is mad as a bug on pricing and they delayed their midrange releases aswell.

 

So help me gauge on how good the timing is to buy a GPU right now, including rumor mill info. Is nVidia about reduce prices? Or pull a "super" semi-generational refresh like they did with the 20 series? Or even bust out the 5000 series to fix their shit?

 

Need to make sure I don't make a mistake cause these European prices are killing me man. Same prices compared to western europe on a eastern europe salary... (the 7800xt is 680 euros for reference).

Is StarField a game you wanna play (and havent already bought)? If so, take it into consideration when comparing value.

 

I didn't get a 7800/77xt due to size limitations in my case (bought a 4070), but the reviews make them seem like sensible priced, if not that exiting new products. If you want a new card in that performance range, it seems not bad  But yes, my feel of pricing has gone out the window as well. Before the Crypto boom I frowned upon buying a card worth much more than 2000 DKK (typical x060 /x600 price tier) but i just paid 5300 DKK for my new GPU (granted it was a conscious luxury buy with my christmas bonus, but still)

[Bapoh]

2 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Besides AV1 encoding and decoding, the other features would be:

AMD Radeon™ Anti-Lag+ - https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-software-anti-lag

AMD HYPR-RX - a new driver experience that allows users to optimize their games using AMD Software features for their RDNA3-based Radeon GPUs, achieving increased performance and lower latency with ease.

Potentially better frame generation in FSR 3.0 (not a thing yet)

Pretty much nothing that really matters. XD

 

A 7800XT should be priced roughly the same as the 6800XT to be a better option. Maybe 10-30€ more would be acceptable to consider.

In my mind, it's the same card.

thanks dude