First high-end build

[ouchie]

This is not my first PC that I will build, but it is the first high-end.

The CPU, cooler, GPU and case are pretty much locked in, unless you can change my mind.

 

Should I go with the Corsair PSU or SeaSonic FOCUS PLUS 850?

While the case can change I do not want a glass sidepanel. meshify 2 seems to be the only one that sells good airflow case with a solid sidepanel?

 

 

 

Budget (including currency): 2000-2500 (Euro)

Country: NL

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/3NQtxs

[wildgg]

assuming you already have storage from a previous build.

I'd get atleast ddr5 6000mhz cl30 or so, it will fit within your budget and shouldnt be that much more since ram prices dropped quite a bit.

[ouchie]

6 minutes ago, Wildgg said:

assuming you already have storage from a previous build

That is correct.

 

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ddr5 6000mhz cl30

Does it really make a big/noticeable difference? And which one do you recommand?

[wildgg]

2 minutes ago, ouchie said:

That is correct.

 

Does it really make a big/noticeable difference?

realistically i dont think you will notice because of the high end cpu/gpu you picked but imo if you're going all out like this you might as well spend the extra 20euros on something that will also stay relevant in the long run.

not sure what you will be using this pc for but there are definitely games out there where you will see 5-10fps improvements on.

[Jon-Slow]

Is this only for games? The x3d chips are not the best if you have non gaming heavy tasks.

 

Also at this price point, I would get a 4090 if this is a gaming only PC. or at least a 4080.

[ouchie]

1 minute ago, Jon-Slow said:

Is this only for games? The x3d chips are not the best if you have non gaming heavy tasks.

 

Also at this price point, I would get a 4090 if this is a gaming only PC. or at least a 4080.

Yes mainly gaming with a little programming on the side.

 

I'm not the biggest fan of Nvidia (and their software). Maybe I got used to AMD.

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€394.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (€54.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€163.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€109.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  (€1289.23 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€137.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€10.49 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Total: €2229.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-30 20:28 CEST+0200

[SorryBella]

9 hours ago, ouchie said:

Yes mainly gaming with a little programming on the side.

Pick your poison moment really, if your title scales the cache then the 12700K like performance of the 7800X3D on productivity is fine and youd enjoy the extra gaming performance especially on frame times.

 

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€43.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€999.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  (€88.85 @ Azerty) 
Power Supply: NZXT C850 (2022) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€114.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Total: €1246.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-31 06:00 CEST+0200

 

 

Intel Platform:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€423.41 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€163.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  (€119.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Total: €706.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-31 05:57 CEST+0200

 

AMD Platform:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€467.80 @ Azerty) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€179.00 @ Azerty) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€123.85 @ Azerty) 
Total: €770.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-31 05:58 CEST+0200

[Jon-Slow]

15 hours ago, ouchie said:

Yes mainly gaming with a little programming on the side.

If you're doing programing, there are uses the RTX card has for you that you cant miss on.

 

15 hours ago, ouchie said:

I'm not the biggest fan of Nvidia (and their software). Maybe I got used to AMD.

 

What do you mean by "their software"? what do you even need the software for? Most of us don't ever have to use the Nvidia control panel except maybe once a few months.

 

That and not being a fan seems like bad reasons to not get a 4090 at 2500 Euros, or at least a 4080. You're roubbing yourself of both gaming and programing advantages. But you do what you feel you'll be happy with.

 

But if you wanted my input, the list provided by @Why_Me is the best one I see here and one I would recommend too, if you're serious about your programing uses/learning. It's an upgrade for your games too. I would probably bump up the 13700K to a 13900K with a 360mm Arctic LFII AIO( or a Noctua U12 or D15 air cooler with correct power limits) but otherwise it's solid, that's what you should be buying for your usecase. cheers.

[ouchie]

5 hours ago, Jon-Slow said:

What do you mean by "their software"? what do you even need the software for?

Recording software (AMD relive)

 

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If you're doing programing

It is only webdev and NodeJS. It makes no difference which cpu/gpu I use

 

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But if you wanted my input, the list provided by @Why_Me is the best one I see here and one I would recommend too, if you're serious about your programing uses/learning. It's an upgrade for your games too. I would probably bump up the 13700K to a 13900K with a 360mm Arctic LFII AIO( or a Noctua U12 or D15 air cooler with correct power limits) but otherwise it's solid, that's what you should be buying for your usecase. cheers.

I'll keep it in mind thanks