Gaming PC quote rip off?

[Illidana]

Budget (including currency): $1400 USD

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: just to play World of Warcraft and Hogwarts Legacy. 

Other details: I currently play on a KatanaG76 but I’d also like a Desktop PC. The quote I got from a local shop is below. Is this really the best build for this price? Would you change anything to maximize performance? 
 

- Intel Core i5-11400F 4.4GHz Boost 6-Core/12-Thread Processor

- Deepcool LS320 ARGB 120mm Liquid CPU Cooler

- MSI MPG B560I GAMING EDGE WIFI & BLUETOOTH Mini ITX Motherboard

- 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 Memory

- Samsung 870 Evo 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive Storage

- NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3070 8GB Video Card

- NZXT H210i Mini ITX Tower Case (Black/Red)

- Asus ROG Strix 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

- Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Operating System

- 1 Year Warranty

Final Price after 7% Sales Tax: $1,350

 

I already have an HP m27fwa monitor. 

 

Edited for typos

[NF-A12x25]

-NZXT cases are hotboxes

 

-that’s too much for a PC with an 11400f, it’s outdated too- try to fit a 13400 and ideally a 3080 12gb in your budget if you can. HW Legacy is gonna do better with a faster GPU and it needs a solid CPU to minimize stuttering as it’s a very poorly optimized game and stutters even with some really good CPUs. Also, forget abt playing it on anything less than 32gb ram- it’s actually crazy bad with ram usage

[filpo]

3 hours ago, Illidana said:

Budget (including currency): $1400 USD

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: just to play World of Warcraft and Hogwarts Legacy. 

Other details: I currently play on a KatanaG76 but I’d also like a Desktop PC. The quote I got is below. Is this really the best build for this price? Would you change anything to maximize performance? 
 

- Intel Core i5-11400F 4.4GHz Boost 6-Core/12-Thread Processor

- Deepcool LS320 ARGB 120mm Liquid CPU Cooler

- MSI MPG B560I GAMING EDGE WIFI & BLUETOOTH Mini ITX Motherboard

- 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 Memory

- Samsung 870 Evo 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive Storage

- NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3070 8GB Video Card

- NZXT H210i Mini ITX Tower Case (Black/Red)

- Asus ROG Strix 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

- Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Operating System

- 1 Year Warranty

Final Price after 7% Sales Tax: $1,350

 

I already have an HP m27fwa monitor. 

 

Edited for typos

Try and look for some better ITX cases in the vid below and a slightly bigger and better CPU cooler like the arctic freezer 240. you should also be able to fit a 12400 in there and a good mobo as well with that budget

[filpo]

3 hours ago, Illidana said:

Budget (including currency): $1400 USD

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: just to play World of Warcraft and Hogwarts Legacy. 

Other details: I currently play on a KatanaG76 but I’d also like a Desktop PC. The quote I got is below. Is this really the best build for this price? Would you change anything to maximize performance? 
 

- Intel Core i5-11400F 4.4GHz Boost 6-Core/12-Thread Processor

- Deepcool LS320 ARGB 120mm Liquid CPU Cooler

- MSI MPG B560I GAMING EDGE WIFI & BLUETOOTH Mini ITX Motherboard

- 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 Memory

- Samsung 870 Evo 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive Storage

- NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3070 8GB Video Card

- NZXT H210i Mini ITX Tower Case (Black/Red)

- Asus ROG Strix 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

- Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Operating System

- 1 Year Warranty

Final Price after 7% Sales Tax: $1,350

 

I already have an HP m27fwa monitor. 

 

Edited for typos

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MnHP4s

[SorryBella]

7 hours ago, Illidana said:

The quote I got is below.

Yeah youre about to be brought to town. This is something that i would build, but of course dont fault the configurator youre being quoted on, computer stores like to quote older SKUs to clueless buyers to make sure they can clear stock.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13400F 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($209.94 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B660M BAZOOKA DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($37.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($122.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Antec NX260 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.73 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Enermax Revolution D.F. 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1480.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-12 07:47 EDT-0400

 

If you want to get closer to a 1400+5%, go for the Magniumgear Neo G for 10$ less. But honestly NX260 is a very solid case and at that price i cant resist.

[Illidana]

46 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

computer stores like to quote older SKUs to clueless buyers to make sure they can clear stock.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that a local shop is building this PC for me. And I am clueless with it comes to PC building

[SorryBella]

Just now, Illidana said:

Sorry, I forgot to mention that a local shop is building this PC for me. And I am clueless with it comes to PC building

Id love to know what they charge for a day labor to build the PC for you instead. I understood not wanting to build it on your own, but if you do have the weekend to spare, you can definitely do it with a good guide, patience, and a #2 Philips screwdriver, learning new skills along the way.

 

 

[Illidana]

5 hours ago, filpo said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MnHP4s

Thank you, I checked it out but I see red warning above the list saying: " Compatibility: Warning! These parts have potential issues or incompatibilities". This looks like such an awesome tool, but I wouldn't know what to do with this warning and how to fix to ensure all part are compatible.

[Illidana]

15 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Id love to know what they charge for a day labor to build the PC for you instead. I understood not wanting to build it on your own, but if you do have the weekend to spare, you can definitely do it with a good guide, patience, and a #2 Philips screwdriver, learning new skills along the way.

 

 

With my luck, I'll probably end up in the same predicament as xQc and he looks like he has an inkling about computers. I just play the games and am a designer by the day so I thought trusting a pro would be the way to go. Micro Center is not in Florida unfortunately as that was my first option.

[filpo]

26 minutes ago, Illidana said:

Thank you, I checked it out but I see red warning above the list saying: " Compatibility: Warning! These parts have potential issues or incompatibilities". This looks like such an awesome tool, but I wouldn't know what to do with this warning and how to fix to ensure all part are compatible.

It’s just a bios update which should be easy to do on a board with bios flashback 

[SorryBella]

23 minutes ago, Illidana said:

With my luck, I'll probably end up in the same predicament as xQc and he looks like he has an inkling about computers.

xQc only has inkling in dealing with the most warzone-like twitch chat. But to be very fair to him he is a very fast learner when someone with bigger knowledge is in the same room.

 

But as i say, anyone can build a PC. A lot of computer stores have this same labor-only charges, not just microcenter. Bringing a build list itself would give you far more advantage in value compared to those that play game of russian trust with their computer stores.

 

27 minutes ago, Illidana said:

Thank you, I checked it out but I see red warning above the list saying: " Compatibility: Warning! These parts have potential issues or incompatibilities". This looks like such an awesome tool, but I wouldn't know what to do with this warning and how to fix to ensure all part are compatible.

You can scroll down to see the details of these "potential issues". In this list its quite simple, its the B660 chipset motherboard having a possibility to be shipped an older version of the motherboard BIOS (its internal operating system, basically) that isnt compatible with Intel 13th gen CPU. You can update it through BIOS flashback function is available, or again, some computer stores would actually do BIOS update service with their own CPUs.

[Illidana]

3 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

 Bringing a build list itself would give you far more advantage in value compared to those that play game of russian trust with their computer stores.

Thanks a lot for the valuable tips. At this point, the trust is gone. I will just give him the old "thanks, but no thanks" and look around for another builder and provide them with a build list and see how much over it would put me with their labor cost. Any ideas what a fair cost would be in this industry?

[SorryBella]

Just now, Illidana said:

Any ideas what a fair cost would be in this industry?

Varies a lot depending on their qualification, what extras do they do, and if they have minimum items clause where you need to buy things from their store instead of going all external stores. I usually find 50-150$ including an unactivated copy of Windows (ThioJoe made a simple explainer on the whole windows activation deal, but basically youre only locked off from personalization options such as account picture without microsoft account, accent colors, wallpapers without using "set image as desktop background" function in browsers, etc.) to be the market rates, but the lower the better unless they backed it up with some kind of store warranty.

[Illidana]

18 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Varies a lot depending on their qualification, what extras do they do, and if they have minimum items clause where you need to buy things from their store instead of going all external stores. I usually find 50-150$ including an unactivated copy of Windows (ThioJoe made a simple explainer on the whole windows activation deal, but basically youre only locked off from personalization options such as account picture without microsoft account, accent colors, wallpapers without using "set image as desktop background" function in browsers, etc.) to be the market rates, but the lower the better unless they backed it up with some kind of store warranty.

Should I go with Win 10 as Hogwarts Legacy and WoW both recommend or Win 11 should do fine as well?

[Illidana]

2 hours ago, SorryClaire said:

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13400F 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($209.94 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B660M BAZOOKA DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($37.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($122.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Antec NX260 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.73 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Enermax Revolution D.F. 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1480.62

What cooler should I go with this list? I'm comparing between your list and filpo's and noticed the cooler missing.

[SorryBella]

7 minutes ago, Illidana said:

What cooler should I go with this list? I'm comparing between your list and filpo's and noticed the cooler missing.

I go with the included stock cooler. But yeah, itll go loud as all get out for good internal case usage, if you want to go and throw 30 more bucks, go for the AK400 by Deepcool instead.

 

[filpo]

3 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

I go with the included stock cooler.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Illidana said:

What cooler should I go with this list? I'm comparing between your list and filpo's and noticed the cooler missing.

ye if your using the 13400f you can't OC so that would be the best bet

[Illidana]

8 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

I go with the included stock cooler. But yeah, itll go loud as all get out for good internal case usage, if you want to go and throw 30 more bucks, go for the AK400 by Deepcool instead.

 

 

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

 

ye if your using the 13400f you can't OC so that would be the best bet

Thank you both so much!