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On 3/12/2021 at 11:20 PM, brianhennessy19298 said:

Budget (including currency): €1000

Country: Ireland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Solidworks, AutoCAD, MATLab, high demand gaming.

Other details

Hey guys, it's been a while. I'm hoping someone can give me advice on a new build, or what components I can upgrade to bring it up to date.

 

Current Build

Case: Corsair 280X Crystal

CPU: i5 6600K

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i

GPU: Sapphire Radeon R9 390

Mobo: Asus Maximus VIII Impact

PSU: Corsair RM650X

RAM:

16gbDDR4G.Skill RipjawV, 2400MHz

Storage:

480gb Kingston SSD, 2TB WD Blue

Case Fans:

2 x beQuiet PureWings 2 120mm

2 x Corsair Air Series AF120 

2 x Corsair 280x stock case fans?

 

I've also got a few other parts from my first build like a Dark Rock Pro 3 and an Asus Sabertooth Z170S. I tried to make a mini ITX build in a Node 202 but it ended up being way too loud so I've still got that case too.

 

It's only started recently with Fallout 4 and Metro Exodus, but the games will lag and stutter quite a bit in dense areas, so I'm assuming that's my CPU maxing out. When I play RDR2 the CPU easily gets up to 90⁰C+, but I can't fit the DRP3 into my current case.

 

Can anyone please advise on a decent build? I want it games to run at high settings but I also want it to be quiet as it's very loud at the moment. My display is 2560 x 1440.

 

I also have no preference when it comes to AMD or Intel. I'm not great with computers but are the Ryzens better than most Intel CPUs?

 

Thanks for taking the time to read this and I'm sorry for the formatting, I'm typing this on my phone!

 

 

 

Using performance metrics from PugetSystems, they found that the higher the core count the better when it comes to Rendering performance in Solidworks, while the 10900k still seems to be the best in terms of Modeling performance due to Solidworks love for faster core clock speed, AMD's 5000 series basically smoked the Intel lineup in actual full render tests, with basically everthing but the opening times of the application being an AMD win.

 

The difference however between the AMD CPUs was minimal so something like a 5800X would be more than good for what you need.

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/SOLIDWORKS-2020-SP5-AMD-Ryzen-5000-Series-CPU-Performance-2011/

 

So with that being the case. I will make this suggestion, keep everything EXCEPT the Motherboard, Ram and CPU. The Ram you will want to replace with at least a 32GB 3200MHz CL16 kit, preferably 2x16GB sticks as this should allow you to upgrade to 64GB if you need to. The motherboard and CPU obviously will need to be replaced.

 

In terms of the GPU, due to the current high demand and low supply of graphics cards, it is probably best to keep the R9 390, while it isnt a modern card, at least it is a card you have on hand.

Budget (including currency): €1000

Country: Ireland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Solidworks, AutoCAD, MATLab, high demand gaming.

Other details

Hey guys, it's been a while. I'm hoping someone can give me advice on a new build, or what components I can upgrade to bring it up to date.

 

Current Build

Case: Corsair 280X Crystal

CPU: i5 6600K

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i

GPU: Sapphire Radeon R9 390

Mobo: Asus Maximus VIII Impact

PSU: Corsair RM650X

RAM:

16gbDDR4G.Skill RipjawV, 2400MHz

Storage:

480gb Kingston SSD, 2TB WD Blue

Case Fans:

2 x beQuiet PureWings 2 120mm

2 x Corsair Air Series AF120 

2 x Corsair 280x stock case fans?

 

I've also got a few other parts from my first build like a Dark Rock Pro 3 and an Asus Sabertooth Z170S. I tried to make a mini ITX build in a Node 202 but it ended up being way too loud so I've still got that case too.

 

It's only started recently with Fallout 4 and Metro Exodus, but the games will lag and stutter quite a bit in dense areas, so I'm assuming that's my CPU maxing out. When I play RDR2 the CPU easily gets up to 90⁰C+, but I can't fit the DRP3 into my current case.

 

Can anyone please advise on a decent build? I want it games to run at high settings but I also want it to be quiet as it's very loud at the moment. My display is 2560 x 1440.

 

I also have no preference when it comes to AMD or Intel. I'm not great with computers but are the Ryzens better than most Intel CPUs?

 

Thanks for taking the time to read this and I'm sorry for the formatting, I'm typing this on my phone!

 

 

 

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30 minutes ago, brianhennessy19298 said:

Budget (including currency): €1000

Country: Ireland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Solidworks, AutoCAD, MATLab, high demand gaming.

Other details

Hey guys, it's been a while. I'm hoping someone can give me advice on a new build, or what components I can upgrade to bring it up to date.

 

Current Build

Case: Corsair 280X Crystal

CPU: i5 6600K

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i

GPU: Sapphire Radeon R9 390

Mobo: Asus Maximus VIII Impact

PSU: Corsair RM650X

RAM:

16gbDDR4G.Skill RipjawV, 2400MHz

Storage:

480gb Kingston SSD, 2TB WD Blue

Case Fans:

2 x beQuiet PureWings 2 120mm

2 x Corsair Air Series AF120 

2 x Corsair 280x stock case fans?

 

I've also got a few other parts from my first build like a Dark Rock Pro 3 and an Asus Sabertooth Z170S. I tried to make a mini ITX build in a Node 202 but it ended up being way too loud so I've still got that case too.

 

It's only started recently with Fallout 4 and Metro Exodus, but the games will lag and stutter quite a bit in dense areas, so I'm assuming that's my CPU maxing out. When I play RDR2 the CPU easily gets up to 90⁰C+, but I can't fit the DRP3 into my current case.

 

Can anyone please advise on a decent build? I want it games to run at high settings but I also want it to be quiet as it's very loud at the moment. My display is 2560 x 1440.

 

I also have no preference when it comes to AMD or Intel. I'm not great with computers but are the Ryzens better than most Intel CPUs?

 

Thanks for taking the time to read this and I'm sorry for the formatting, I'm typing this on my phone!

 

 

 

Do you want to keep the itx form factor or move to something bigger?

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On 3/12/2021 at 11:20 PM, brianhennessy19298 said:

Budget (including currency): €1000

Country: Ireland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Solidworks, AutoCAD, MATLab, high demand gaming.

Other details

Hey guys, it's been a while. I'm hoping someone can give me advice on a new build, or what components I can upgrade to bring it up to date.

 

Current Build

Case: Corsair 280X Crystal

CPU: i5 6600K

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i

GPU: Sapphire Radeon R9 390

Mobo: Asus Maximus VIII Impact

PSU: Corsair RM650X

RAM:

16gbDDR4G.Skill RipjawV, 2400MHz

Storage:

480gb Kingston SSD, 2TB WD Blue

Case Fans:

2 x beQuiet PureWings 2 120mm

2 x Corsair Air Series AF120 

2 x Corsair 280x stock case fans?

 

I've also got a few other parts from my first build like a Dark Rock Pro 3 and an Asus Sabertooth Z170S. I tried to make a mini ITX build in a Node 202 but it ended up being way too loud so I've still got that case too.

 

It's only started recently with Fallout 4 and Metro Exodus, but the games will lag and stutter quite a bit in dense areas, so I'm assuming that's my CPU maxing out. When I play RDR2 the CPU easily gets up to 90⁰C+, but I can't fit the DRP3 into my current case.

 

Can anyone please advise on a decent build? I want it games to run at high settings but I also want it to be quiet as it's very loud at the moment. My display is 2560 x 1440.

 

I also have no preference when it comes to AMD or Intel. I'm not great with computers but are the Ryzens better than most Intel CPUs?

 

Thanks for taking the time to read this and I'm sorry for the formatting, I'm typing this on my phone!

 

 

 

Using performance metrics from PugetSystems, they found that the higher the core count the better when it comes to Rendering performance in Solidworks, while the 10900k still seems to be the best in terms of Modeling performance due to Solidworks love for faster core clock speed, AMD's 5000 series basically smoked the Intel lineup in actual full render tests, with basically everthing but the opening times of the application being an AMD win.

 

The difference however between the AMD CPUs was minimal so something like a 5800X would be more than good for what you need.

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/SOLIDWORKS-2020-SP5-AMD-Ryzen-5000-Series-CPU-Performance-2011/

 

So with that being the case. I will make this suggestion, keep everything EXCEPT the Motherboard, Ram and CPU. The Ram you will want to replace with at least a 32GB 3200MHz CL16 kit, preferably 2x16GB sticks as this should allow you to upgrade to 64GB if you need to. The motherboard and CPU obviously will need to be replaced.

 

In terms of the GPU, due to the current high demand and low supply of graphics cards, it is probably best to keep the R9 390, while it isnt a modern card, at least it is a card you have on hand.

Main PC | AMD R7 3700X | Noctua D14 | MSI RTX 2080 Super XS OC | Corsair Vengence LPX 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | MSI B550A Pro | 1TB PNY XLR8 NVMe SSD | Kingston A400 960GB SSD | 2TB Western Digital Green HDD | Fractal Design Define R6TG |

Laptop (Asus TUF FX505DY) | AMD R5 3550H | RX560X | Crucial DDR4 16GB 2400MHz | Western Digital SN550 256GB SSD | PNY CS900 960GB SSD |

Phone | Samsung S10 Lite (128GB + 128GB SD card) |

Other Cool Stuff | Steam Link | Sontronics Podcast Pro | NZXT Hue+ | Corsair K70 MK 2 (MX Brown) | Logitech G402 | HiSense A7300 43 Inch 4K TV | Logitech C920 | Ender 3 Pro with Bulleye Fan duct and BLTouch |Sony PS4 | Nintendo Switch 

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Hey, thank's for the comprehensive reply and recommendations Adam! What motherboard and case would you recommend? I'm not really familiar with AMD so I wouldnt be sure what board would be right. I've been through a few cases from the Corsair 230T, Node 202 and Crystal 280X. All I really want is something that looks professional and is very quiet.

 

Any further help is greatly appreciated, thanks Adam!

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On 3/14/2021 at 11:33 AM, brianhennessy19298 said:

Hey, thank's for the comprehensive reply and recommendations Adam! What motherboard and case would you recommend? I'm not really familiar with AMD so I wouldnt be sure what board would be right. I've been through a few cases from the Corsair 230T, Node 202 and Crystal 280X. All I really want is something that looks professional and is very quiet.

 

Any further help is greatly appreciated, thanks Adam!

If silence is your main thing, then BeQuiet and Fractal Design's R series are your friends. Which one you get is really up to you, but personally I got the Define R6 for it's sound proofing side panels and front panel. Though according to GamersNexus, BeQuiet have the quietest PC cases, so it might be worth getting one of their's.

 

When it comes to Motherboards, normally I would suggest a motherboard with ECC support when it comes to a workstation, however due to memory speed compatability with Ryzen consumer chips, as far as I can find the fastest you can go is 2667Mhz, which is much too low for a PC that you wish to game on.

 

I have also taken the liberty of suggesting an ATX motherboard instead of the slightly cheaper MATX, this will allow for more PCIe slots for any possible upgrades later, while the MATX would be fine for most people, your mentioning of MATLAB makes me suspect you are an engineer of some kind (I am an Electronic Engineer myself), so its possible you may find yourself in need of extra pcie slots since some higher end analysis devices do have proprietary PCIe boards to connect to, so having the possibility to use those without worry of replacing existing cards in your PC will be a nice bonus.

 

In terms of Chipset, a B550 will be fine for what you need, the additions that X570 add wont really make a difference for you, gen 3 general purpose lanes will be fine for now, you may want an X570 if you plan on getting any PCIe 4.0 drives later down the line, but for now it should be fine.

 

So, to wrap up, below is the system I made for you using the Ireland location on PCPartPicker. I hope this PC does well for you my friend, there is an extra 122 Euros left of your budget for you to spend on a case.

 

I didnt include a cooler since you have the NH L9i, which should be fine for the 5800X, just contact noctua about an AMD bracket and they will get back to you very quickly, I got my bracket for my D14 within about a week and a half.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor €512.95 @ Komplett
Motherboard ASRock B550 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard €156.16 @ Custompc
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory €209.74 @ Custompc
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €878.85
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-15 19:17 GMT+0000  

 

Main PC | AMD R7 3700X | Noctua D14 | MSI RTX 2080 Super XS OC | Corsair Vengence LPX 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | MSI B550A Pro | 1TB PNY XLR8 NVMe SSD | Kingston A400 960GB SSD | 2TB Western Digital Green HDD | Fractal Design Define R6TG |

Laptop (Asus TUF FX505DY) | AMD R5 3550H | RX560X | Crucial DDR4 16GB 2400MHz | Western Digital SN550 256GB SSD | PNY CS900 960GB SSD |

Phone | Samsung S10 Lite (128GB + 128GB SD card) |

Other Cool Stuff | Steam Link | Sontronics Podcast Pro | NZXT Hue+ | Corsair K70 MK 2 (MX Brown) | Logitech G402 | HiSense A7300 43 Inch 4K TV | Logitech C920 | Ender 3 Pro with Bulleye Fan duct and BLTouch |Sony PS4 | Nintendo Switch 

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On 3/15/2021 at 7:24 PM, AdamBGames said:

If silence is your main thing, then BeQuiet and Fractal Design's R series are your friends. Which one you get is really up to you, but personally I got the Define R6 for it's sound proofing side panels and front panel. Though according to GamersNexus, BeQuiet have the quietest PC cases, so it might be worth getting one of their's.

 

When it comes to Motherboards, normally I would suggest a motherboard with ECC support when it comes to a workstation, however due to memory speed compatability with Ryzen consumer chips, as far as I can find the fastest you can go is 2667Mhz, which is much too low for a PC that you wish to game on.

 

I have also taken the liberty of suggesting an ATX motherboard instead of the slightly cheaper MATX, this will allow for more PCIe slots for any possible upgrades later, while the MATX would be fine for most people, your mentioning of MATLAB makes me suspect you are an engineer of some kind (I am an Electronic Engineer myself), so its possible you may find yourself in need of extra pcie slots since some higher end analysis devices do have proprietary PCIe boards to connect to, so having the possibility to use those without worry of replacing existing cards in your PC will be a nice bonus.

 

In terms of Chipset, a B550 will be fine for what you need, the additions that X570 add wont really make a difference for you, gen 3 general purpose lanes will be fine for now, you may want an X570 if you plan on getting any PCIe 4.0 drives later down the line, but for now it should be fine.

 

So, to wrap up, below is the system I made for you using the Ireland location on PCPartPicker. I hope this PC does well for you my friend, there is an extra 122 Euros left of your budget for you to spend on a case.

 

I didnt include a cooler since you have the NH L9i, which should be fine for the 5800X, just contact noctua about an AMD bracket and they will get back to you very quickly, I got my bracket for my D14 within about a week and a half.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor €512.95 @ Komplett
Motherboard ASRock B550 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard €156.16 @ Custompc
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory €209.74 @ Custompc
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €878.85
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-15 19:17 GMT+0000  

 

Can't thank you enough for the help Adam, good guess regards profession, just wrapping up my final year studying for Mechanical & Manufacturing Engineering!

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