Ryzen 5000 build stability issues

[mwiarda]

Hey guys,

 

after a long period of evaluation and waiting I built this wonderful machine: 

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler 
Motherboard: MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card 
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply 
 

Unfortunately, I am experiencing stability issues

 

1. Several times the system was not posting when XMP was enabled. This seems to be a known issue (See Reddit) --> I disabled XMP for now

2. While running Prime95 I had a BSOD (at stock settings, no CPU OC, no XMP)

3. Memtest86 freezes after a certain time (between 2 and 30)

 

Temperatures look good (idle ~40°C, gaming ~60°C, Prime95/Blender ~80°C)

So far, I had no problems in normal (gaming) use. However, for a new build I don't want to accept these issues.

What would be the next steps to troubleshoot this issue? Or should I wait for the next bios version?

 

Best,

Michael

 

 

[Tom_nerd]

i hate to say it but, the power supply wattage may not be enough as the 3000 series cards have spikes in power consumption which can cause the overcurrent protection to trip on your power supply which will give you stability issues. try borrowing a more powerful power supply from a friend (if you have friends nerdy enough) and see if that helps.

[Skiiwee29]

Just now, Tom_nerd said:

i hate to say it but, the power supply wattage may not be enough as the 3000 series cards have spikes in power consumption which can cause the overcurrent protection to trip on your power supply which will give you stability issues. try borrowing a more powerful power supply from a friend (if you have friends nerdy enough) and see if that helps.

That only applies to 3080s and 3090s.. not the 3070. 3070 is less than a 2080ti. 

[mwiarda]

2 minutes ago, Tom_nerd said:

i hate to say it but, the power supply wattage may not be enough as the 3000 series cards have spikes in power consumption which can cause the overcurrent protection to trip on your power supply which will give you stability issues. try borrowing a more powerful power supply from a friend (if you have friends nerdy enough) and see if that helps.

I understand your point. However, I consider this to be highly unlikely because the issues arise without any load on the GPU. 

Especially looking at memtest86. But also during Prime95 the GPU is completely idle.

 

Thank you for your suggestion though. I will look into this when nothing else helps... Unfortunately, I have no friends in the PC building space.

[Skiiwee29]

4 minutes ago, mwiarda said:

I understand your point. However, I consider this to be highly unlikely because the issues arise without any load on the GPU. 

Especially looking at memtest86. But also during Prime95 the GPU is completely idle.

 

Thank you for your suggestion though. I will look into this when nothing else helps... Unfortunately, I have no friends in the PC building space.

its not ur PSU, your PSU is perfectly fine and adequate. Its likely the issue with Memory on the 5000 series CPUs with MSI boards. Wait until a patch comes out. You can in the mean time play around with your voltages a bit to see if that helps. With it at stock, set your SOC voltages to like 1.1v and test. 

[mwiarda]

1 minute ago, Skiiwee29 said:

its not ur PSU, your PSU is perfectly fine and adequate. Its likely the issue with Memory on the 5000 series CPUs with MSI boards. Wait until a patch comes out. You can in the mean time play around with your voltages a bit to see if that helps. With it at stock, set your SOC voltages to like 1.1v and test. 

Thank you, unfortunately I do not have any idea what ranges the voltages should have. 1.2V for the memory at stock speed seems rather low to me. Do you know a good site where I can learn what voltage settings make sense for my configuration?

 

[Skiiwee29]

25 minutes ago, mwiarda said:

Thank you, unfortunately I do not have any idea what ranges the voltages should have. 1.2V for the memory at stock speed seems rather low to me. Do you know a good site where I can learn what voltage settings make sense for my configuration?

 

At stock non XMP, 1.2 is the standard JDEC voltages. When XMP is enabled, it bumps up the voltages to 1.35v. SOC voltages are a bit different as that is voltage that controls your memory controller, among other stuff, on your CPU SOC die. 

[mwiarda]

3 hours ago, Skiiwee29 said:

At stock non XMP, 1.2 is the standard JDEC voltages. When XMP is enabled, it bumps up the voltages to 1.35v. SOC voltages are a bit different as that is voltage that controls your memory controller, among other stuff, on your CPU SOC die. 

I pumped up the DRAM voltage to 1.3V and now memtest seems to be stable (so far)

[mwiarda]

On 11/10/2020 at 9:32 AM, Skiiwee29 said:

its not ur PSU, your PSU is perfectly fine and adequate. Its likely the issue with Memory on the 5000 series CPUs with MSI boards. Wait until a patch comes out. You can in the mean time play around with your voltages a bit to see if that helps. With it at stock, set your SOC voltages to like 1.1v and test. 

Quick update: It is the SOC voltage. The default voltage of 1.1V seems to be too high. I manually set the SOC voltage to 1.0V and my system is stable.