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When I first built this system, I tried enabling XMP, and started getting BSoDs somewhat randomly (usually ranging from every 30 minutes to every 8 hours or so). These seem to occur regardless of what I have running on the system at the time of the crash. I was annoyed by them for awhile, then finally realized that the overclocking could be the issue. I set my memory back to default settings in the BIOS and voila, I never get BSoDs anymore. I've tried a "Memory Try It!" preset that matched my specs and just like that, I was getting BSoDs again. I've updated my BIOS and tried overclocking again, and nothing changed. I'm out of ideas and I'd like to have my memory running at the proper speed. UPDATE: I have taken 2 sticks of memory out, then enabled XMP, and now my system runs properly. But of course now the problem is that I'd like to utilize all of the RAM i bought and have it work with XMP. Specs CPU: i9-12900k 3.2GHz 16 core Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A ATX LGA 1700 (BIOS is MSI Click BIOS 5 version E7D25IMS.AG0) Memory: Corsair Vengeance DDR5 5600Mhz - 64GB (4 x 16GB) PSU: Corsair RM850 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2x 12G
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This is going to be a fun one because the weeds are deep here. My problem is that I have a large parametric 3D Model in Fusion 360 and it is getting unreasonably slow. When using a parametric model in Fusion the model has to recalculate the sizes and positions of everything almost every time you make a change. For my model, this can take anywhere from 1 min to 5 min but it has to be done almost every 30 seconds in my standard workflow. When diagnosing this issue I ran into some weird things when trying to find my bottleneck and it is this bottleneck that I want to get into. Before I get into the hardware stuff though I want to make sure that I mention a few things that I know will come up if I don't. To start, all of my drivers are up to date, Fusion is up to date and Windows is up to date. In addition, I read the recent post from Autodesk where they talk about performance issues in Fusion 360 and show some settings that you can use to make Fusion run better (refer to link #1). There is also an older post from the Autodesk forum where it is explained that Fusion 360 does support multi-threading however what calculations it can do when is limited by how you make your model 9Refer to Link #2). I also included another link talking about if and how the CPU is a bottleneck in Fusion 360 to provide a bit more background about this issue (Refer to Link #3). Now let's get into it. Observations: When Fusion needs to recompute the model it freezes it's self and may even say that it is not responding. This is when I look at Task Manager and I see that I have lots of RAM left, my GPU is hardly working, my C drive is hardly working and Fusion 360 is barely using any network capacity. What does seem to be working is my CPU, though maybe not in the way that you may expect. In this circumstance utilization of my CPU by Fusion Jumps from the 2-5% that it uses at idle up to 15-25%. In addition, the clock speed jumps from my base clock speed to my max boost clock speed. With this info, you may expect that when you select "Show logical processors" on the CPU graph in the task manager you will see one core working really hard while the rest just idle along but this is not what happens. What does happen is that one core is doing a bit more work than the others but the others are not far behind. To me, this is odd behavior because the only thing that is working on this compute appears to be the CPU as the utilizing goes up by about 20% and the clock speed shoots up to max however it isn't fully utilizing one thread and it isn't fully utilizing all of my threads. So my question is, if this compute is being done on my CPU, why is it not fully utilizing its single-core capabilities or its multi-core capabilities? Everything from this point forward is my hypothesis as somebody who does not have any real knowledge about this kind of stuff and I want to know if I am right or if and how I am wrong about what may be happening here. Hypothesis: Every time Fusion 360 has to recalculate something, those calculations must be done in a specific order. Some calculations can be done at the same time as others but it can only do so many before it moves on to the next set of calculations. Before it moves on to the next set of calculations it has to wait for the longest calculation to finish, and then the computer must "Sync" the data which in this case means that it has to check to make sure that it has all of the data that it needs by searching the memory or cache to make sure it is there. This must happen because each core of the CPU is working independently so the computer must check to make sure that all of the calculations are done before moving on. This means that the CPU is doing a lot of waiting itself. Effectively this means that these kinds of calculations can only go as fast as it takes to do the slowest compute per sync plus the amount of time it takes to sync the data and that must be repeated every time the computer has to sync the calculations. This is why we see the clock speed go to max but the utilization does not go past 20% or so. The CPU is calculating as fast as it can but it is also waiting for data to start the next calculation. Recommendations: From what I gather 1000 things can impact the speed of these calculations but to improve speed the most there are a few standouts. Faster CPUs: Higher clock speeds will decrease the time it takes to finish the longest calculation per sync. More cores are handy in many ways but do not impact this situation. Faster RAM: Faster RAM would decrease the amount of time it takes to sync the calculations because the data can be accessed more quickly. Faster hard drives: A faster hard drive would possibly decrease the sync time in the case that data from these calculations gets stored on the hard drive itself. Possibly CPUs with more onboard cache: CPUs have a small amount of memory on board called cache that it can search extremely quickly due to its physical proximity to the CPU cores, more cache means a higher chance that data gets stored in the cache where it can be found much quicker then if it were stored on the RAM or hard drive. I look forward to you guys tearing apart my definitely simplified and probably wrong understanding of the situation. References: https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-optimize-settings-in-Fusion-360-for-performance.html https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/yellow-warning-on-component-with-no-features-slow-recalc/m-p/6624514#M77275 https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-design-validate-document/cpu-is-the-bottleneck/td-p/6827520
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yeah- my gaming computer will work fine for hours, and after maybe 8-9 hours it gets a BSOD with a memory management error. It also happens much more often when I pull the computer from sleep mode. I have 4 sticks of Teamgroup 8 gb ram, so maybe its an issue running it not in dual channel? or could it possibly be a faulty chip on the DIMM?
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hello every one *** sorry for my bad english *** my pc stats : cpu i7 12700 4.5hz ram 2x8 3600 vga 3060 ti motherboard asus prime b660 plus d4 ( last bios updated ) my main ram speed is 2133 but i want it more before i change my windows os i was using 3200hz and no problem afetr i update my windows 10 to last version i got blue screen after 7h i tried xmp 3600 i tried xmp and reduced to 3200 i change it from 2133 to 3200 and every time i got blue screen after 7 or 8h and still i have it right now i reset my bios setting but i thing i still have this problem any help guys? atleast i want my ram speed at 3000 any tricks? help me with manual setting for ram speed and voltages
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So unlucky me got a 16GB DDR4 3600Mhz cas 18 Trident Z C-die Ram that can not handle 1.35v(XMP).After days of trying different settings and many posts later I've managed to stabilize them at 1.30v 18-22-22-44. I'm about to upgrade to 32GB ram but im trying to save some money at the same time. My question is if i get an other 16GB (so that i have 4x8GB) and they work like they are supposed to will they have trouble booting with my current settings? (for the faulty ram i already have) or should i grab 2x16GB?
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Hello Everyone Motherboard: ASUS ProArt X670E-CREATOR WIFI Processor: AMD Ryzen 7950x3D I recently had to upgrade my ram to 128gb. I purchased a second kit of G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 2x32 (F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5N) 2 sticks that I had before were running in EXPO at 6000MHz. After installing all 4 sticks EXPO crashes after the BIOS, but even running them stock i noticed that their speed is at 3600MHz when it should be 4800MHz. Is this an issue with the amount of ram or is it something else? The ram shows up as 4800 in bios but when I go into windows its speed is 3600MHz I have also noticed that the manufacturers for different kits are shown as different "Richtek Power" and "Anpec Electronics" - is this unusual? I purchased memory kits about 6 months apart but they have matching info on the store page. Could this be the cause of the issues / create more problems down the road? Thanks in advance to anyone who will comment.
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Hey guys, I have a Lenovo Y540 17IRH, 81Q4 laptop (Baseboard model - LNVNB161216). At this time I have 8gb of ram and am planning on upgrading to 32gb. My question is, what is the maximum capacity this specific laptop can support? I looked in the laptops user guide but Lenovo didn't specify it, as well as at some online stores where you can buy this laptop they said that maximum capacity is 32gb but since that is not an official source I don't know if I should believe that. Hopefully someone has tried this upgrade in the past. Thank you for your responses in advance.
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So I'm looking into PC compatibility issues, and one point of concern that I found out is that CPUs have a memory speed limit. Specifically, I'm looking at 12700k, which has a memory speed limit of up to 4800 DDR5. So will running a higher speed than this be 1. Still beneficial, over the same capacity 4800? And if so, by how much as compared to a CPU that supports it? 2. Simply run the memory as 4800? or 3. Cause a worse performance than 4800, or even simply be incompatible (crashes, not booting up)? P.S.: How important are ram timings for things like casual gaming / everyday use? Would a difference between 16.5 ns first word latency and 12.5 ns first word latency even be noticeable, or what change in fps in games?
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my pc came with 8 gb of ram so i decided to buy 16gb more of ram (different company but same mhz) and my computer says i have 24 gb of ram but it just seems weird that opera gx is using 32% of my ram but is only using 1011 mb of ram. not sure whats wrong but some help would be nice
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I gave my friend my unused 8gb sodimm stick(2666mhz), he installed it on his laptop with 4gb of soldered 3200mhz ram. And now his laptop shows black screen but his power button still lights up. He is using a Lenovo laptop with which model I'm not quite sure of. Could this caused by speed difference in the ram?
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So to make a long story short I have 4 8GB sticks of g-skill DDR4 3600Mhz CL 18 in my PC... well had. Now i'm down to 2 sticks. I'm not sure how but 2 of my sticks failed. The strange thing is first I bought 16GB and then a few months later added another 16GB kit. The weird thing is that 1 stick from both kits failed. The other weird thing is that both sticks that failed were in the same slot/channel. I've personally never had ram fail on me before but this seems quite odd. It seems like something about the sticks being in the specific slots caused them to fail however I cant see why that would be the case. I figured the sticks that failed would likely be from the same kit... maybe they were marginal from the factory and gave up after a few years but it seems odd that one from each kit would fail and that they wouldn't be from the same kit. I'm mildly worried that there's something wrong with my ram slots or the memory controller on my 5800X but I have no idea how to know for sure. I ran a memory test and figured out what sticks were bad. Now i'm just running the good sticks in the slots the motherboard recommends I use. Should I replace the dead ram? I don't want to replace it and have it fail again. Maybe I should buy a new 16GB X2 kit and use that instead? Yall think this is just a coincidence or possible bad memory controller? Suggestions? Also if anyone wants more info feel free to ask. Just curious to know what you guys think.
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Hello everyone, I'm having hope my issue will be resolved with your help I own a pc, it's specs are: MSI z590-a pro Intel i9-11900kf Corsair 32 GB (4x8GB) DDR4 3600 MHz Vengeance RGB Pro Black (CMW32GX4M4D3600C18) Gigabyte p850gm PSU MSI Suprim X 3090 graphics card WD Blue SN570 1tb Samsung 980pro 1tb Samsung evo 870 250gb 6 bequiet coolers silent wings 3 deepcool rgb coolers Bequiet Pure loop 360mm The issue that i'm having, is previously I owned DDR4 2х16GB/3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V Red (F4-3600C19D-32GVRB)G.skill ripjaws V red But decided to "upgrade" to prettier ram because I'm trying to do white build So,with that 2 sticks of 16gb my pc was working fine, undervolted gpu, undervolted cpu, xmp enabled, not much tinkering in bios to be frank After I "upgraded" my ram, I've encountered very weird issue, my pc turns off, I hear psu click, then after couple seconds another click, and it starts back up, each time, no matter how many times you turn it off it comes back on While I had my old ram i tried to remove all Corsair sticks and populate back slots for ram, the issue was not present, the problems that I have are only with this set of ram. I've tried to get back to Corsair about it, maybe they could've helped me, but they just asked for contact info to rma it, which I can't do from Ukraine (also, the ram was bought sealed off, unused so there is no way someone was using it before me) The only workaround I've found is after it powered off, manually turn off psu with a button on it's rear, by doing so - rgb on cpu block and on fans are starting to glow for a splitsecond and turned off, then I hear another click from psu like it's trying to start itself again, another click, and another click, all in a time of about 10-15 seconds. I know some might say it's not that big of a deal and just move on with it, but it's really frustrating, I can't turn it off from my phone anymore because it will just start itself and consume power. English is not my first language, sorry, ukrainian is. Thank you for reading, hopefully someone will find a solution
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Hi all! Im dealing with a very annoying issue at the moment. Out of nowhere, I can't play some games anymore because when I do, the RAM usage skyrockets to 100% which causes massive frame drops and makes the games unplayable. This problem started occurring out of nowhere and I have no idea how to fix this. I've tried to lower the in-game settings to the absolute lowest but even then, the RAM usage is 100% so I think there is something more happening here. I've already tried to monitor which processes use the RAM, but it is just the game that just keeps using more and more to the point of almost crashing. The specs of my PC are an AMD Radeon 7800XT, Ryzen 5 5800X3D, 16Gb DDR4 3200MHz RAM, B450 Tomahawk Max. Does anyone have any idea what might be going on? Thanks in advance!
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Hey there everyone! Thanks to some folks here in the forum (huge thanks to @YoungBlade) I've been guided in my upgrade to AMD (first time ever touching an AMD PC). Even if I already have 2x16GB 2666MHz RAM in my current PC and could very well transfer it to the new platform, I wanna see what upgrade I can make which would be cheap and far better than what I have. Maybe 3600MHz? I don't know anything about timing or anything so all help is welcome. Would prefer keeping the same amount of memory, and the cooler I'm getting allows up to 62mm memory modules. I'm welcome for new and used options, either Amazon or eBay, or just basic recommendations based on your local used market, might have similar deals. If there isn't something I can score for less than $45, then I'll just wait for that specific upgrade since I'm already doing a ~$300 upgrade and my wallet hurts. Any comments welcome!
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After the recent Windows 11 update, I got a BSOD and my Legion 5 15ach6h stopped posting. To troubleshoot I tried: Battery disconnect and power drain Removing SSDs Tried disconnecting the CMOS battery (Destroyed the connector. :'() Removing RAMs (One of them turned out to be faulty) I am not quite sure but I think you can replace the CMOS connector. But is the SO-DIMM slot on my laptop fixable? Here's the screenshot of my update history,
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DRAM issue on Z270 board, no post, run out of options...
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Trying to bring new life into my old main machine parts (these have been for the most part sitting in the open so for a while ive been skeptical of them even working). Recently used them in a build but cannot get it to post with a DRAM failure light. Here are the parts: Motherboard: MSI Z270 SLI Plus RAM: Corsair Vengeance LED 16 GB 2666mhz CL16 CPU: Intel Core i7 7700k PSU: Corsair SF850L Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini I got the build done relatively quickly but as mentioned above the system doesnt seem to make it past DRAM checks in order to boot, ive been browsing all over the internet for solutions. I have: Reseated the RAM, removed one DIMM, inserted them into one of the other 3 slots available, reboot, repeat still DRAM light. Tried known working DDR4 memory (in my current machine) still no boot, same error. Tried a brand new kit of LPX memory, still no boot with the same troubleshooting steps as above. Reseated the CPU Cooler as posts online say Z270 boards are abit fragile with motherboard bend?? but still no boot. Removed the CMOS battery to reset the BIOS, left it out for 5minutes, placed it back in, still no boot. Rubbing the sticks with rubber??? (yes im desperate). Ive attached in this post images and video of the build as well as the EZ Debug LEDs displaying DRAM error, to be clear the lights flash CPU then DRAM and STAY on DRAM for a couple seconds and reset, from the motherboard manual this indicates a RAM failure of some sort. Not sure at this point what to do as im thinking this could be a motherboard issue. Any tips or guidance would be helpful. Cheers. EDIT: No GPU as i wanted to use these old parts/pc as a home lab to try somethings out on it. 20240414_011940.mp4- 8 replies
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Will it work? ryzen 5 2600x with 3200mhz ram
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Hello, have a question for those who know. Would it work fine with 3200mhz RAM? Want to update my 3000mhz 16GB RAM to 32GB RAM. But don't don't wasn't to risk it and wont be able to turn on the PC after upgrading or in crashing. -
Hello, I'm looking to make use of the 2 open RAM slots on my motherboard with the overall goal to increase speeds. I just finished my PC build in Feb. so I'm completely new this and with all my research I've thoroughly confused myself and appreciate any insights and feedback. Would it be better to purchase another identical 2x16GB DDR-3200 RAM set, totaling in 64GB of RAM? Or go with 4x8GB DDR-3600 RAM set that would keep me at 32GB of RAM but with DDR-3600 speed? It's my understanding that more RAM doesn't always equal faster speeds, and having a dual channel motherboard plays another part in it. Current build specs: CPU: i5-12600KF Motherboard: ASRock B660M Pro RS Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 2x16 GB DDR4-3200
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Introduction Hey everyone! So I am fairly new to self hosting stuff at home, I am talking about 2-3 years here. I have bought my first Raspberry Pi about 3 years from now and my small home server 1.5 years ago. I first ran TrueNAS Scale as the OS, but switched to Proxmox VE, because I had issues with accessing other pods hosted on the same issue. Talked about this issue with one of my teachers back then and he advised me to install Proxmox instead of trying to fiddle around with IP tables and stuff. Since then I am a huge fan of PVE! Alright, so I then also started hosting other VMs on there, because I needed the unused computing power that I used for the pods on TrueNas Scale again. I started migrating some of my services onto an Ubtuntu-Server Docker instance. It's been like that since that point. Recently I started experiencing OpenShift at work and CI/CD pipelines with Tekton and wanted to also do something like that privately to strengthen my knowledge about k8s. I started researching and found the underlying project of OpenShift; OKD. Long story short; I checked the minimum requirements for OKD and realized that I am short of a few GB of RAM... My Goal I would like you to quickly take a look at the table 1 and 2 on the following official documentation: https://docs.okd.io/4.14/installing/installing_bare_metal/installing-bare-metal.html#installation-machine-requirements_installing-bare-metal For my cluster, I would need 3 control plane nodes and at least 2 workers. That would be a total of 14 CPU-Cores and 64 GB of RAM. I also have other VMs running on my system, that I have listed below this section. So there needs to be slightly better hardware, just to be safe. Current Specs Case: Fractal Define 7 XL Black CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 G, AM4, 3.9 GHz, 6-Core RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX, 4x 16GB, 3200 MHz, DDR4-RAM, DIMM Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A Gaming, AM4, AMD B550, ATX PSU: be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM, 600W Storage: - 2x Intenso top performance 512 GB, M.2 2280 - 2x Samsung 870 QVO, 1000 GB, 2.5'' - 6x Seagate IronWolf 8TB, 3.5'', CMR Other: - 2x Delock Host Bus Adapter 2 Port SATA PCIe - 3x Delock Molex to SATA power cable Virtual Machines NAS CPU: 1 Core [host] RAM: 8GiB [balloon=0] Storage: - 6x HDD pass-through - local-zfs (onto m.2) 32G virt. disk Docker Services (Ubtuntu Server) CPU: 3 Cores [x86-64-v2-AES] RAM: 14GiB Storage: local-zfs (onto m.2) 128G virt. disk Adguard (Ubtuntu Server) CPU: 1 Core [x86-64-v2-AES] RAM: 2GiB Storage: local-zfs (onto m.2) 32G virt. disk (The SSDs are currently unused, because I wanted to put the cluster onto those. Distributing the control planes and worker nodes onto them, having no ZFS pool for possibly a better performance?) Issues 1. My system was experiencing a high I/O rate, peaking at around 15-20% when doing high intensive writes. I had some MC servers hosted on there at some point, with large worlds and when they saved, all VMs were lagging to their death (almost). This was the case when I had the SSD1 and SSD2 as a RAID1 and I read that this can cause huge lag (possibly from ChatGPT, I cannot remember). Well so yesterday I migrated away from RAID1, also because I need more storage for my OKD cluster. 2. Another issue is that I had to buy those PCIe SATA adapters, because I didn't know that 2 of my 6 SATA motherboard connectors are going to get disabled, when using 2x m.2 slots. (I decided later that I am going to buy SSDs for my system). 3. Yesterday, a friend of mine pointed out, that my CPU only has 2 lanes and that this is probably going to be a bottleneck for my RAM. He advised me to do some more research about this topic though and as you can see I also don't know that much about hardware. 4. About the RAM issue, I would actually buy 2x 32 GB sticks here, and replace 2 of my 4 16GB sticks with them. 5. If I understood Proxmox VE correctly, it emulates certain CPU types, so the operating system would think that it has 4 cores, if I for example give it 1 socket with 4 x86-64-v2-AES cores. Also I still don't quite understand that part yet, with what CPU type to choose. Maybe I can get some advice here as well. 6. I actually want to give my NAS VM way more RAM, for faster caching, but it's not necessary really. Conclusion I would be very happy if I could get some advise about my current situation and maybe if you could address some other concerns that I maybe haven't stumbled into yet. I am willing to spend around 500$ for my upgrades (or more maybe, but I'll have to save up some more money then). I've also thought of maybe moving the NAS onto another Proxmox system (including the VM with the Docker services), but this will be more expensive. But this makes the system available for the cluster (with a small RAM upgrade).
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Hello, I just "upgraded" my PC to I think better specs but I'm not sure that's why I want to ask here (I generally don't know too much about building a Computer). I had previously built 2 x 8GB (3200 MHz) in my PC. But now I took "old" parts from my other PC and now I've installed additionally 1 x 16 (3000 MHz) and 1 x 8 (1200 MHz). The question now is, is it optimal? I now have 40 GB of RAM but I'm unsure how many MHz they are running. The task manager tells me it is 2133 MHz but I don't know if that's true or if that is even good. Thanks for the help already!