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Hey, just wanted to share this troubleshooting/fail story of me trying to clean up my CPU. So I noticed my Ryzen 3700X was getting pretty bad temps all around (60c idle - 92c underload) and decided to clean it up. I got a punch of cleaning supplies for removing thermal paste and dust. When I tried to get my stock cooler off it wouldn't budge after I got the latch off. So I ended up using a bit of force and finally got it out. Only problem was that the CPU chip came with the cooler stuck fast on the bottom. The thermal paste was quite solid on the chip and I had to pry it out with a small screwdriver. This would have been fine and all if I didn't end up damaging the pins of the CPU making it unusable. I had to go get a new chip since something like this isn't under the warranty. I ended up getting a 3800X since I need the PC for work all the time and the 5000 series is out of stock in many places. So after getting my new chip I put it in and used the old Prism cooler from the 3700X since I had already cleaned that one up. Booting up the pc all the fans and light seemed to be fine but the computer would not boot. So I checked the motherboard lights and saw the DRAM light red. Now I got worried since I really didn't to swap my motherboard or get new ram sticks at this point. I swapped the sticks around and found out that both the single channel slots worked absolutely fine, but when I tried dual channel in any order the computer would not get to windows (or bios for that matter). I almost gave up at this point since I figured the motherboard would have broken for some unknown reason. Then I found this post about a guy saying that loosening the screws of their CPU cooler fixed their dual channel problems. I didn't this would work since this guy had a Intel chip but it was worth a try at this point. I really didn't want to get my cooler of again since I was already 6 hours in trying to solve this, but I did it anyway and cleaned the CPU up and used the new Prism cooler that came with the 3800X (don't know if this had anything to do with the problem). I loosened the screws a bit (they were really tight tbh) and on the next boot the Dual channel worked, Hurray! Only downside now was that my thermals didn't improve much and I ended up wasting a good amount of money. Oh well... Just wanted to share this short story maybe it will help someone, Cheers! TLDR; Be careful when removing your cooler so you don't brake your CPU and don't tighten the cooler screws too much so you don't brake your DRAM channels. Specs: Ryzen 7 3700X / 3800X HyperX Predator 2x8gb 3200mhz Asus Rtx 3070 Tuf Gaming OC
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Hi everyone! So, I changed my components to a new case, and when I turned the pc on it was boot looping. I saw it was an orange led, I thought it was a RAM issue. Took one stick out, leaving only a stick on the slot farther from the CPU, and the system booted up no problem. Thought it was issue with the RAM stick I took off, so I tried swapping them, and the system booted up as well. Placed both sticks back in, not in dual channel, so side-by-side, and system booted up too... Only when in dual channel it does not boot. After all this, I tried to clear CMOS. This is what I did: Turn PSU off and unpluged power cord, and every other thing plugged to the pc. Removed the CMOS battery from the motherboard and shorted the 2 pins that are related to the clear CMOS, according to the boards manual. Holded the power btn for 1 min. Then waited 10 mins and plugged everything up, and inserted the battery. Turned pc on and still found it boot looping, or powering on but not showing anything on screen, and displaying the orange led... What am I missing here? PC specs: CPU: i7 10700k GPU: GTX 1070 RAM: 2x GSkill DDR4 4000MHz Motherboard: Asus Z490-A Prime
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Sorry if it was asked before, but it's kind of hard to google for this specific question. Will the following configuration work in dual channel mode? A1: empty. A2: dual-rank 32 GB stick. B1: single-rank 16 GB stick. B2: single-rank 16 GB stick. Assuming all other specs match and there's no compatibility problems due to the silicon lottery. My understanding is that it should work perfectly as a single dual-rank stick in a channel is pretty much the same as two single-rank sticks, for all intents and purposes except maybe extreme OC when actual physical topology begins to matter. Am I wrong? Does the actual number of physical sticks matter for dual channel? And a follow-up: will it work if the number of ranks per channel doesn't match, but the capacity per channel is still the same?
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Hey, I need some help. I just startet at building a Computer and have an ASUS B350 plus I know its not the best, but it will work for me. But I need your help, I want to use all 64GB of RAM and just found 2x32gb Sticks. Can I use them in Dual Channel or do I need 4x16GB? Because I cant find anywhere something about using the board in Dual Channel 64GB. Thanks Felix
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Hi everyone, first of all i would like to say that i'm new at posting in this format, so if i'm not doing it properly please tell me so i can do it the right way. That being said, i hope someone could help me with this i had since the last year i built my setup. Specs: MOBO: B450 MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700x RAM: 2x16 Hyperx Kingston Fury 2400Mhz (HX424C15FB3A/16) SSD: WD_BLACK SN750 500GB HDD: Seagate Barracuda 4TB (T4000DM004) PSU: Gigabyte B700H GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC Since i built this, after taking the decision to drop my old Intel setup to give it a shot to AMD's Ryzen family of processors, i had a lot of troubles since day 1: BSOD's KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION Black screen resets with the EZ Debug LED turning on at CPU every time this happened (MSI Led) USB ports stop working gradually before an imminent BSOD (Sometimes Youtube and Twitch also could stop working too before a BSOD) Sometimes BSOD's when shutting down the PC (Using the button and the OS option, both cause it) All of this happens when i use 2 RAM slots on dual channel at least twice a day, i have no problem when using 1 stick. I have a whole year trying to figure out what could be the problem, and i tried multiple of the stuff i know could be causing this kind of problem: Checked that everything was correctly installed Re-installed Windows and drivers several times Stress tested CPU and RAM Tested both of my RAM modules by separate and together with Memtest86 (No errors) Avoided MSI Bloatware Updated BIOS (And eventually downgraded after finding out BSOD multiplied because apparently MSI has buggy BIOS) Recently reseated the CPU and rebuilt my setup in case i was missing something Nothing solved my issues but i got rid of black screen EZ debug LED issue after i reseated my CPU, which called my attention, because the CPU was installed correctly, but i noticed something odd: The wraith prism cooler was really thight, because when i just applied a little bit of force to move the lever of Wraith Prism cooler, it just violently moved and made a loud noise, it even hit my finger and hurted me a bit. When i first installed this cooler i had no issues, i didn't even had to force it to close the lever and this is not the first time i build a PC and i know that you don't have to apply too much force on PC parts, so this is why this really called my attention. After reseating the CPU, BSOD dissapeared a couple of days, but now they're back but the cooler seems to be correctly installed, now i can move the lever without issues. I looked on the internet for people with the same problem as me and i found this: This post made me downgrade to a most stable BIOS version, which did reduced BSOD's, but didn't fixed the issue. After this incident also searched for people who had problems with Wraith Prism and found this post: And this is what made me think that the root of my problems could be my CPU cooler, but honestly i'm still skeptical about it, so i wanted to see if someone has another idea or if someone had this kind of problem and if so, how you do fixed it or what you think i can do to fix my issues?. Thanks in advance to everyone, and have a nice day.
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Hi guys, I have a X570 AORUS ELITE with the latest bios (F31o), a ryzen 9 5900X and 4 x 8GB crucial ballistix. The problem is that the motherboard doesn't detect all 4 sticks of memory. if I connect all 4 sticks it eighter works only A1, A2 or B1, B2.I tried different configurations so i know that the RAMS are fine. Also if i connect only 3 stick it works fine and detect them all but if i add another one it only show 2. Also CPUz show them all and also the crucial software for controlling the RBG leds work fine and detect them all.
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I had 8x2=16 GB corsair vengeance RGB pro 3200mhz dimms operating in dual channel perfectly. Yesterday, I upgraded to another 8x2=16GB dimms of the same model,bus speed and latency and after installing all the 4 dimms, RAM frequency is now 2133mhz instead of 3200mhz. Though it's posting as 32GB. Can anyone help me with this problem? Here are the specs of my pc: Mobo: Asrock b450m steel legend CPU: Ryzen 5 3400G with stock cooler RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB pro 8x4=32 GB @3200mhz SSD: Samsung 970 evo plus PSU: Corsair VS450
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hello as mechanicl engineering student is 16 gb of ram enough the other problem is the laptops that I found has 8 gb of ram integrated memory(+ 8 gb of sodimm) what does it mean? can I uprade it later (in dual channel or in single channel). does running it in single channel makes a noticeable difference ?
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hey guys! i am trying to configure pc for best what i can Lenovo ThinkCenter M90p so i put in 2Gb ram stick in slot-1, 2 and 3 then everything is okey, but when i put last stick in which is 4Gb the PC in bios shows 10Gb of ram but won't boot in windows, it is starting to load and blue screens i take out all ram sticks and except the 4Gb still it wont boot but on diferent motherboard the stick is everything alright is there any way to fix it ?
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Hi all! After a long time, i'm set to refresh my computer. I want to game at max settings (except for 4K, i don't care much for that). I'm currently equiped with a phenom II X6 at a speed between 3 and 4 Ghz (i currently have the watercooling off, so it's more like 3.5), with 16 gigs of DDR3, an R9 290, and SSDs. All in all i think that my old CPU is holding me back quite a bit, so i'm looking forward to upgrade on rizen (had it not been cool, i would have switched to intel). For the CPU i'm probably going for a R7 1700, and overclock the sh*t out of it. I'll keep my R9 290 for now, since nothing can be bought without selling a kidney in this department, so now i'm left with memory choices. Seeing how rizen loves higher speed memory (when it works!) i'm leaning towards DDR4 3000 or 3200, as it seems like the sweet spot in price/performance. However i'd be happy to hear suggestions about this. I'm not set yet on motherboard, but i'm interested in a few asus B350 (there is a fatality model if i recall correctly that has all the stuff i want), full ATX. I'd start with 16Gigs at first, and later on upgrade with 16 more for 32 total. The problem is that i've heard/read that 4 sticks of double bank ram is a no-go on rizen, so i'm considering my options now. I can either start with a single 16 gig stick, but that's single channel for some months. Not cool performance wise. the other option would be 2 8gig sticks, but how can i ensure that i'll get single bank sticks? how to be sure that i can later on add 2 more sticks? Unless someone has more info on this single/dual bank memory stuff, and there is an update planned? I think i want to spend 700€, perhaps up to 800€ for CPU+mainboard+ram, and cooler options can have a little extra, but i think i can reuse my waterblocks, pumps, etc, i'll juste have to 3D print a fixation plate for the blocks i have. That's around 1000-1200$CA or 800-900US$ that i can spend on that. If really i'm making a huge mistake with my choices, i can spend more, but i'd like not; i'd rather keep the money to later on buy a bad-ass GPU such as a 1080 when prices drop a bit. So any insights?
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I bought 2 rams of 8gb separated, theyre are exactly the same. I intend to use in dual channel but in the box says single channel kit. It will work right guys
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I own a HP pavilion n209tx laptop. The hp website states max RAM capacity is 12gb. Currently I have 4gb*2 on both slots. I would like to know if replacing one 4gb with an 8gb stick of same frequency will affect performance? I see that running photoshop+lightroom and adobe Bridge at the same time slows my system down. I understand a better processor would solve the issue but since the memory often requires more RAM, does that mean that the 12gb will improve performance by at least 10-15%? What happens to dual channel? Should I stick to the 8gb?
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Why is this happening? I have 2 memory sticks of 1GB each, DDR2. Yeah my computer is old at this point. So anyway, I started having random Windows errors a long time ago, I realized it was due RAM. So I tried different configurations, as you can see on the pic I tried all possible configurations: 1) Dual channel 1: Errors 2) Dual channel 2: Errors 3) Single channel 1: No errors 4) Single channel 2: No errors Beside the random Windows errors (random graphic glitches, BSODs, random reboots, random errors regarding corrupt libraries and whatnot... the random stuff that happens with faulty RAM) I double checked by testing each configuration with memtest, and as expected I had errors in 1) and 2) after a couple of passes, 3) 4) had no errors after a couple of passes. So it's safe to say I get ram errors only when in Dual Channel... why? Is this due the MOBO, or due the memory sticks? I was considering upgrading my RAM by buying 2x2GB sticks to have a total of 6, or even buy a brand new pack of 4x2GB and run the full 8GB that my MOBO supports while I save money for a full upgrade, but im paranoid about the actual problem being one of the RAM slots and not one (or both) of the memory sticks, which would mean im fucked because I don't have enough to upgrade new MOBO, new CPU, new CPU fan, new DDR3 RAM (my PSU and GPU are good enough). Upgrading from 2GB to 8 would be great and highly noticeable, and I could survive for at least 1+ years while I save good money for a maxed out rig. I play games and edit videos and music, so right now 2GB with Win 7 is a huge bottleneck for my nice MSI R7850 and the CPU even if its old (Q6660). Here's some specs, bios settings and voltages: MOBO: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2665#ov RAM: http://www.geil.com.tw/products/showSpec/id/119 CPU: Some ram settings: Voltages: Bios settings: I've tried upping a bit the NB (MCH OverVoltage Control +0.10), same happens. I think I've tried running at default 1.8v for the RAM and I had problems booting or something. Something that I don't get is i've set in the bios that the RAM should run at 4 4 4 12 but its still running at 5 5 5 18 as seen on the CPUZ screenshot. The voltage tho is correctly set at 2.0 (DDR2 OverVoltage is set to +0.20 as you can see). Anyway lets see if someone drops some help. Im praying to st linus that this is a RAM stick/bios setup problem and not a MOBO problem because I dont have money to replace everything now and I cant resist any longer with only 2GB, my computer is struggling to run firefox and skype at once ffs.
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