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Hi all, I have an Intel Core i7 6700K that is cooled by a Corsair H110i GTX AIO. I decided to delid it as it was running at 95C with only a very mild overclock. After delidding, I cleaned up all the black sealant around the edges until it was perfectly clean with no traces left, and then I applied some thermal paste to the bare die, then put the heatspreader loosely on top (just floating) and then reinstalled the CPU like that into my PC. After this, I was absolutely blown away and really impressed, temps dropped from 95C to only 55C or so, same overclock settings, nothing changed except delidding. But then slowly, day by day, the temps got worse and crept up to the point where they are hitting 100C and the CPU is thermal throttling. I then removed the CPU, cleaned it, reapplied the thermal paste on the die, and the temps were good again. But then the same thing happened after a few days, temps got worse until it literally hits 100C and throttles just from dragging a window around. I have tried a bunch of different thermal pastes and all of them have this effect. I had actually repasted my GPU a few months prior and that has been perfectly fine, the temps on my GPU improved drastically and have stayed that way. I have a feeling that I am a victim of thermal paste "pump-out" but I am not 100% sure. The same thing happens if I lie the PC flat horizontally on my desk instead of vertically. Is this a known thing? Am I supposed to lap something, or use liquid metal instead? Is there a special application method or paste I must use?
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Used tools for "vice only" method Vice (cheap from Amazon) Tesa Crepe (painter's tape) Some towel around vice in case stuff falls down Plastic scraper to remove the black 'glue' remainders (no scratches) Microfiber cloth Isoprop Wew thermal paste (used Noctua NT-H1)© ...
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Used tools for "vice only" method Vice (cheap from Amazon) Tesa Crepe (painter's tape) Some towel around vice in case stuff falls down Plastic scraper to remove the black 'glue' remainders (no scratches) Microfiber cloth Isoprop New thermal paste (used Noctua NT-H1)© ...
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Hello LTT forum I am planning a delid on my i5-8600k, I have read a lot of guides online, but everybody seems to have different opinions on resealing the HIS. I move my computer around a lot and therefor I would argue that it should be resealed. (the CPU is horizontal mounted btw). Should I reseal or not, and if so, how should I do it, in just the corners or all the way around the IHS (and what glue should I use, everybody seems to use high heat silicon). I have bought the Thermal Grizzly Conducotnaut and some online recommend using nail polish to protect the small components on the substrate from potential liquid metal spill over, is this really needed if I am very careful to apply a thin layer of liquid metal? I hope someone out there with the experience can give me some good advice, it would be much appreciated. (just realised the i5 8600k doesn't have any small electronics on the substrate, correct me if i am wrong)
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So I decided to delid my 6700k and I want to make sure I have the right things to do it. As far as I know I need liquid metal probably Grizzly Conductonaut, some kind of glue but I don't know which one, something to clean the old glue down. Which glue do you recommend? What should I be careful about when doing this? Should I apply the liquid metal on the IHS and CPU die or just on the CPU die? Should I apply the liquid metal on between the IHS and heatsink too? And how do I make sure I line up IHS with CPU die correctly? Thank you for your time.
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Hi, I am contemplating delidding my 7700K for possibly better thermals and therefore a quieter system. My only worry is I have read on some forums that because there is no longer any silicone between the IHS and the CPU the IHS sits lower and sometimes does not make proper contact with the CPU cooler. Is there any truth to this? I am currently running an NZXT Kraken X62 AIO Thanks in advance for the help
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Would this be worth it to delid an old (but still great) hp gaming laptop? its and i7 8 core 2.6 ghz but the problem is it sat for awhile then when I took it out to play some old games it kept getting really hot. I downloaded hw monitor and the temp at idle just sitting at the desktop for a few minutes was about 85° Celsius and games 94°!! I dissembled the whole laptop and reapplied thermal paste to the heat sync on the processor and it helped just a few degrees. (the thermal paste was rock hard.) I don't really want to keep playing at 95° Celsius but I want to play some games. Could the thermal paste be rock hard on the inside and need to replaced? The laptop is about 5 almost 6 years old
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Hi, I'll soon get my I7 7700k and nzxt kraken x62, and am asking myself if these temp issues on kabylake are on every CPU? I know I should first try but I wanted to know if every kabylake user has these temp spikes known for kabylake, and if delidded CPU's don't have it anymore. Thanks
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Hi, everyone. I have a question. On cinebench r15, when I run the full cpu multithread test, my temps are high, as shown below in the picture. Are they too high? I have re applied an Arctic Silver 5, and am using the Stock Intel cooler (for 6th gen tho). I am planning to buy a delidding tool, some coollaboratory liquid ultra, and delid my cpu and then overclock it. Will there be any difference in temps, after delidding? Also, I forgot to mention, my ambient temps are 28C. Thank you for your time.
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Just need a confirmation that the DER8AUER DELID-DIE-MATE 2 will work with 8700k before I buy it. Or are there better, possibly cheaper options out there?
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Hey there Digitec is currently offering a discount on the delidding tool from der8auer. But im wondering if i really need this expensive UHU High temperature silicone or if i can just fix it with a little bit of normal adhesive. (I know i coud just do it without the adhesive but i might want to sell the CPU in the future so i want to it)
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Hello, new member here, Long time lurker. A couple Questions: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOAoKcVW9uBeXK7rKh9E_OYOczUNQQZzaBRAHkELjnsGRYzHKUIJ0eDeLrFXsoDxA?key=ZHQ0YWNZTlRVaGVvcXVmdC1PeEJfOTJUWi01SHVn 1. was the thermal paste applied properly from my cooler to cpu? all screws were tight. I had to use a phillips screw driver to loosen them all. one standoff underneath may have been a little loose. but this sucker was on there. 2. so from looking at the heatsink and thermal paste applied, does it look good? any critiques are welcome. Also, i'm delidding the cpu right now, here are the photos: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMtN6fOktbjAbmjBMgFwzISPUAc2CKrRW64outvSlH8exiMqSJIwC_VvI_89X0khw?key=LThqUDlaVlN1a1dlaENoVmUxWU82YVlOVU9MV3B3 I need to buy a new thermal paste between the IHS and CPU. My local microcenter has this in stock: http://microelectronics.com/product/429370/7_Carat_Thermal_Compound_15g 3. Will that be OK to use? I've seen the charts from best to worst and I believe the linked IC diamond is 4th from the best. Correct? Thanks all!
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So I just built my first watercooling loop. On stress tests im getting about 40 deg on the GPU and 50-55 deg on the CPU, im hoping to bring down the CPU temps a bit by delidding. I've ordered a rockit 88 kit, and want some advice on the following: -Thermal grizzly conductonaut or Liquid Ultra or Something else? -Relid or go loose lid and just use the retention bracket to hold it on? -Should I use liquid metal between my IHS and my block or normal thermal paste? (My block is nickel plated copper, EK Supremacy EVO) -Anything I need to be wary or cautious of while delidding?
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I've never delidded a CPU before, but I can't stand how hot my 7700k gets, and how loud it makes my PC. I'm currently using a 280mm rad and it still gets into the 80s during gaming occasionally. Are there recommended kits I should use? And what should I replace the TIM with? Anything I should look out for when doing it? Any help is appreciated.
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First off, damn! That CPU did not want it's heat spreader removed. Glad to see that Threadripper uses solder, i'm not surprised though. What was surprising, was the fact that Threadripper has four dies. That would mean that Threadripper is probably a reused EPYC CPU. Does this mean that we could see up to 32 cores on Threadripper if AMD wanted to?
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Maybe it is just me who has not yet seen this method, but when I was researching the topic of delidding, the were a few methods, like a razor, or the hit-it-with-a-hammer-on-the-side method, but this guy makes it seem so natural like drinking water. Has anyone else seen/tried this method? Granted, the kit costs 80+ EUR, but damn it looks nice. Bonus: Delidding is (supposedly) of i7-7700K. More (German) info in the video description.
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Hi everyone, it's my first post here. I've read many of your contributions over the years, but I'm having an issue that I can't seem to find answered here before. To start things of, here's my build specs: Motherboard: Asus ROG Rampage VI Omega CPU: Intel Core i9-7940X RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB 4x16GB 2133MHz GPU: 2x Gigabyte WF RTX 2080 Ti w/ NVLink PSU: Corsair RM1000x 1000W Storage: 1x Samsung 970 Pro 500GB M.2, 1x Samsung 960 Evo 500GB M.2, 2x Samsung 860 Evo 1TB SSD Cooling: Custom water loop with EK water blocks, EK D5 pump, 1x360 slim rad, 1x240 slim rad, 6 Corsair LL120 OS: Windows 10 Workstation After watching a number of videos and seeing the performance upgrades, I decided to delid the CPU and apply Thermal Grizzly's Conductonaut Liquid Metal to the die and between the CPU and waterblock. I used clear nail varnish on the CPU around the die to protect the circuitry from any stray LM, and used a thermal pad sticker with a cutout for the CPU heatsink, that creates a barrier around the CPU and waterblock. Ever since I've done so, or at least that I can tell, when I go into BIOS, it shows that all 4 RAM sticks are detected in slots A1, B1, C1, D1, but only 48GB is used collectively. In Windows, only A1, B1 and D1 channels were appearing. Since then I have tried the following troubleshooting: Reseated the RAM sticks, Tried them in channels A2, B2, C2, D2, Used another set of 4 RAM sticks, Reseated the CPU, Checked the MB for bent pins, Tried a different MB, I have also tried resetting the MB to default, upgraded the BIOS, tried increasing voltage to the DRAM, with no dice. Also, interestingly enough, if I use the 4x sticks in A1, A2, B1, B2, effectively limiting myself to dual-channel memory, all 64GB shows up in Windows, but something strange happens with the usage in Task Monitor. It shows that I have 64GB, and that I'm using 56GB in idle. I exported the task manager and counted up all the RAM usage, which was a total of ~7.5GB. With just one stick in, or in quad-channel, that's exactly how much it shows, 7.5GB out of 16GB/48GB. So I'm at the conclusion that in dual-channel, only one of the sticks is being used. Is there anything I'm missing here, or am I just in denial that I screwed up the CPU in my delidding process? I think the info is pretty exhaustive, but if I've missed anything let me know. Thanks for your help! TL;DR: Delidded my CPU, now one of my 4 DRAM channels doesn't work. Help.
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These 2 are both Ryzen based processors. One is first gen the other 2nd gen. Take a guess at which one is on the left. At some point in the future, I will update this post with the answer. Answer: Ryzen 5 1200 is on the left. 2700x on the right.
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So, Imagine this, you have a $45CPU that runs 54W at max performance, with no OC possibilites. Why not use a $30 delidding tool, with $20 liquid thermal paste, then top it off with a corsair H100i? Well, here we go. I did that with my Intel Core Celeron G4900. 3.1Ghz dual core, we are talking about some serious horsepower here. Clearly delidding is not just warranted, but needed ^^Thermal paste used Now. What kind of massive ROI (return of investment) are we talking about? Well, to start with, with the normal included aluminium only cooler. We got hot temperatures. Running prime95 for 30 minutes made the CPU reach 46°C (as max temperatures) Now whats the after temps? After running Prime95 for 90minutes continously we got 36°C as max temp. WHAT A RETURN!! Now, given the nearly double digit improvement, I can only recommend this to my fellow Intel Celeron G4900 dual core users!
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Anyone know a good delidding tool for the i7 7700k, also good thermal paste or liquid metal to make contact with the die and ihs? And how would you reattach the ihs to the cpu?
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delidding TEMPRETURES of 7900X after delidding
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If it is NORMAL that a 7900X after delidding hits 95 degree Celsius while running FPU in AIDA64??? I need help! Here are some more details about my system. CPU:7900X MB:ASUS Rampage VI Apex Mem:G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200C14Q-32GTZR GPU:GTX1070 Founders Edition SSD:Intel Optane 900P*1 Samsung SM961*1 Micron M600*1 4 SATA SSDs Network:Intel X540 10G network connector Overclocking details: 7900X@4.8G core voltage=1.22V AVX offset=3 Mesh@3.2G ucorevoltage=1.04V Mem:3800@15 15 15 32 1T voltage=1.43V VCCIO=1.02V VCCSA=0.95V CPU powerlimits were totally unlocked. Cooling system: ONLY FOR CPU CPU water block:EK supremarcy EVO X99 Radiators:EK coolstream SE 240 with 2 Nuctua AF 12x15 PWM fans@1400RPM EK coolstream SE 360 with 3 SCYTHE GT2150@1600RPM Pump:EK XRES-Revo D5 Case:INWIN 101 Delidding: Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut between cores and package. Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut between CPU and water block. TEMPRETURES! Around 28 or 29 degree Celsius in my room. Water temperature at abou 35 degree while running stress tests. IT HITS 95 degree Celsius while running FPU for about 5mins.It runs at about 4.5G@1.22V. While running cinebench r15,tempretures seems about the same but maybe a little little bit lower.Cinebench R15 runs at 4.8G@1.22V Power: About 600W running only FPU bench. Come on guys,show me if I'm failed while delidding.And welcome discussing the tempretures decreasing of your CPU after delidding -
Derbauer reported that intel messed up the 9th gen processors by using solder as it doesn't perform as expected and delidding and liquid metal are also now difficult. He also noted that the die and the PCB are larger now. What are your thoughts on the topic. Video link: https://youtu.be/r5Doo-zgyQs
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Hi, So i am awaiting my i9 9900K (don't get it until November despite early pre-order), and I am a big fan of delidding, i delidded my i5-3570K and saw siginificant thermal benefits, was about to delid my i7-8700K but decided recently to wait it out and sell it to finance the i9 purchase. Debauer (de8auer?) showed 8 degrees lower average temperature, which from 90 to 82 degrees, is still a significant thermal gain. Thus I am considering delidding it. But the i9 is soldered, i am experienced in delidding before, but is the procedure different for the i9? and if so, how/what equipment is needed. thanks in advance
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Hey guys, I am having issues with my overclocked i7-7700K. I Overclocked him to 4.8 GHz at 1.27V. The Problem is that I am always running hot, even though I already upgraded to a NZXT Kraken x72 that runs on perfectly fine 33°C water temp tested with both stock thermal paste and thermal grizzly kryonaut applied. I double checked on that and they were/are pretty much perfectly applied. I have the feeling that the thermal conductivity between the heatspreader and die of the CPU are the problem, as as well one of the cores is running about 5-15 °C higher than the others under load while the water temp still sits at 33°C (only tested in short runs ~2 mins). Could that be the case? I Don't really want to kill my CPU while delidding but with these temps I probably gotta stop overclocking which is kinda a nogo as well.
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Hi all! So lately I have been trying to finish a Quiet, Overclocked PC build. While I am 100% done, I am unfortunately facing issues, particularly in my new i9-9900K's temps. To begin with, my build is using a 360mm Liquid Cooling AIO with 6 fans mounted on it. Secondly, I didn't win the silicon lottery; this new i9-9900K required 1.28V to do 4.9Ghz (AVX2, LLC5); Going to 5.0 Ghz seemed to require a bigger bump in in voltage which is already an issue because at 1.28V, this CPU is hitting 90C-95C on the package - I was reaching roughly 200W of power usage/TDP during an AVX Workload. And lastly, because I live in a pretty warm country (Singapore), it will be expensive to run the A/C all day all night so my room will hit roughly 30C-32C in a normal day. While yes, my workload mainly is gaming and some multitasking work in the background, I don't do much AVX workloads; but I am just sensitive to temperatures, especially when they are high. I am considering to go over to the i9-9900KS for the better silicon quality, but I don't want to stop there; I wanna go the enthusiast route, but maybe not to the extreme, more to get the best and lowest temperatures possible. - Delidding and using Liquid Metal instead of Solder - Rockit Copper IHS (I don't plan to do direct die cooling and/or lapping due to the dangers with it) A few questions... 1) Does anyone here have a delidded 9th gen CPU and use a Copper IHS instead of the stock one? what are your experiences with temp drops and etc? 2) Will using Liquid Metal alloy with the Copper IHS easier than the stock Nickel plating and do I need to delid in a few months and reapply the LM? 3) Any hints or notes to take note of? OTHER ANSWERS: - I am not willing to switch to Z490 and i7-10700k, due to the difficulty to sell my current 9900k and Z390 board. The only benefits I see with the extra few hundred dollars to go over is renewed warranty. - I am not doing direct die cooling and/or lapping. More details of my build can be found here: Thanks