koko_1989

omg, thank you sir!! I'm in the middle of this 1080Ti to 3070Ti upgrade research and it scared me to death that I might have to spend extra to get rid of this bottleneck in some way... Now I can go back to enjoying the idea of finally having ray tracing and dlss soon for the first time : )

Hi All, I have an MSI B450 Mortar Max. With a slot layout like this: 1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slot (PCI_E1) Supports x16 speed with 1st, 2nd and 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ processors Supports x8 speed with Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Vega Graphics and 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Graphics processors Supports x4 speed with AMD® Athlon™ with Radeon™ Vega Graphics Processors 1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 slot (PCI_E4, supports x4 mode)1 2 x PCIe 2.0 x1 slots2 PCI_E4 slot will be unavailable when an M.2 SSD is installed in the M2_2 slot. PCI_E2 slot will be unavailable when an expansion card is installed in the PCI_E3 slot. It looks like this: And I have my GPU in that top X16 slot. Currently 1080Ti, soon 3070Ti. Both 3 slots wide. And I have my Sound Blaster PCI-E X1 sound card in the 4th slot. Because that's the only 1 left next to the huge GPU. My question is, am I losing GPU performance because of the populated 4th slot? (either with my current card or my next one) The CPU is an 5600X. And I have 1 M.2 drive in that top slot, above the GPU. Thank you in advance!

Hi all! So for anyone else having this issue, here's my final update on this topic. I was too lazy to do the BIOS update back then, bc I knew it won't be long before I do a CPU upgrade. Which finally happened this week. So I have updated the BIOS to the latest one from 2021 May (for this board). And before switching the CPUs I have checked what's up with the RAM speed. And it was unchanged.. it defaulted to the "safe" 2133 speed, again. When trying to apply the 3200 XMP profile, it DID successfully increase the voltage to 1.35 or 1.36, which was surprising to see, but the speed remained unchanged at 2133. I did not try anything additional before moving on to the new CPU, BUT, I must note that since the voltage was automatically moving up to higher values, which was not always the case before, I do think, that maybe, if I spent some time with some manual settings trials, and memory re-seating, it might have worked out. Anyways, with the new 5600X the 3200 XMP profile applied like it should. no issues whatsoever. Thank you for the tips everyone! Cheers!

Possible. But that's not going to change. This should work. I tried moving up to 3200 today. Now that I think the BIOS is buggy, or at least it's certainly acting that way, I tried a bit more variations of settings. Still it won't post at 3200, it goes back to the safe/default 2133 all the time. So I just went back to 2933 again. Next trial will be with updated BIOS.

Thank you! However, all 4 slots are populated. I have 2 sets of CMK16GX4M2B3200C16. 32Gb altogether. So far the 2933 speed is sticking with manual voltage correction. This is the XMP profile #1. I will try later the XMP profile #2 as well, which is the 3200 profile. I expect that this way that will be fine too.

Dam... I have B450 but this is likely what happened and I missed it. and I've seen this video in December already : D

1st piece of progress finally. ( before I continue I googled around a bit more and found 1 more person who has a similar issue, but in his case none of his bios changes are saving / applying, but in my case my BIOS change attempts are saving and applying, except the actual freq refuses to go up so far. but for example my manual timings were still there today, weeks later. and 1 more guy with exact same issue. in his case after a lot of failed attempts the thing that fixed it was disassembling the PC and re-assembling. but no other changes. so potentially a bad contact somewhere maybe. also, lots of people have similar configs working with xmp and 3200, so it is clearly possible ) so I was looking at the BIOS settings, and decided to make some changes again and see how it goes. 1 of them was turning off xmp like you suggested, and setting my earlier manual timing settings back to auto. it was still 2133 but I noticed that the dram voltage is 1.34 instead of saying auto, like most other things right now. I don't remember if that's a default thing, or if I earlier changed it to 1.34 and forgot about it. I suspect it was me when I was messing with the timings. ( bc the suggested minimum dram voltage on my earlier picture is 1.34 ) anyway, I was thinking 1.34 is certainly unnecessarily high for 2133 so let's try to push it again, knowing that I have an increased voltage. so I gave xmp 1 last try (before adjusting the freq manually like you suggested, that was going to be my next attempt) and after saving the settings it finally applied the 2933, it changed on the bios main screen when I re-entered bios right away to check it. however when I exited (without changing anything), it failed to post. it did that thing when it shuts the PC down for a moment and rebooted. so I went in to BIOS again to check what the heck was that, and yep.. it went back to 2133 (even though xmp 1 was still shown as ON). now, maybe I'm wrong, but it seemed like this is a low voltage thing, and I should increase it. so I went up to 1.35, and now my 2933 seems functional. if it holds I will later try again to push to 3200 as well. thank you for all the assist so far!

"2133 is the same as 1067 x2, double data rate they call that. So when you see 1067, multiply by 2. Same if it where 1500, that's 3000mhz." I know. it means =it's still f**ked : D hmm yeah, I'll try that too, thanks!

(sry for the delay, I'm quite sick these past weeks/months) so tried that too. still reads 1067 in taskmgr. and 2133 in BIOS. I also tried making some SAFE manual timings in dram calculator, but did not help: I wonder what I'm missing... loads of people write online that they can use their 2600 with 3000 and 3200 frequencies despite the 2933 official support limit. but let alone that, I'm not even hitting that 2933 either o.0

Thank you! trying profile 1 now. but I'm not seeing a difference in Win yet. taskmgr and ryzenmaster shows same 1067 which is in no way right o.0 maybe it's important, that I have 4 sticks of ram. I have 2 sets of CMK16GX4M2B3200C16. 32Gb ram altogether.

Hi all, This is the RAM: CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 This is my BIOS it seems: And my board offers the right settings as "A-XMP profile2" which is turned ON. yet, my speed seems to be only 1067 or 2133 depending on where I look: 1067: taskmgr + ryzen master 2133: BIOS main screen BIOS settings: what I tried to fix it: I have just changed the circled AUTO frequency to fix 3200 but it did not have an effect. also I was wondering if load will increase it, but according to ryzen master and taskmgr, the load has no effect. what do you guys think I should try next ? Thanks in a advance : )

Makes sense, I think this answers it, thank you very much sir!

Hi all, I have only recently discovered that chroma subsampling is a thing : D And when I found out that 4:4:4 is supposed to be the best on a main PC display with lots of text I wanted to try it. But when I set mine to 4:4:4 it limits another setting here: (not sure how I could resize this image, I hope it won't be way too large) Output color format has 3 options, RGB, 4:2:2 and 4:4:4. Output dynamic range has 2 options, Full or Limited. ONLY the RGB color format allows the Full dynamic range option. 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 both limit it to Limited. I wonder, why this is and what exactly is the tradeoff? Is there any way for me to set 4:4:4 with Full range? ( P.S.: It might be a relevant factor that I overall have 4 displays connected to that 1080Ti. This main 1440p one, and 2 1080p smaller ones on each side of it, and then a 1080p TV on another table. )

Thank you I will check those out!

okay sounds good, will look into that. Is is similar to that free Razer virtual surround software I was recommend back in the day X years ago ? I think I never tried that.. Is this better ? In terms of money, well good question.. at the moment I'm looking into Sounds Blaster AE-9 because of the Tiger person's signature above : D Seems like a real god-tier product. That's 120000HUF in my country. That's like 400USD. That's a bit much for me for this purpose, but I could be convinced MAYBE to spend that much on this, IF it's like a longtime investment, for example if it would serve many different other kind of headphones as well, so it would be great for whatever I'll decide to upgrade to after my M50X, probably years from now. But, ideally if it ends up being just for this purpose, getting a bit more out of my M50X then something like a 100-120$ would sound more reasonable to me.