AshSenpai

Hello Guys,

I was trying to buy an VR headset from Oculus but i was wondering which i should get for PC.

my questions are :

1- is the quest 2 visual performance and quality be as good as the rift s with usb C ?

2- will the quest 2 have bigger latency than the rift s ?

3- will the quest 2 be a good choice for my rig  ??

My rig :

intel I7-10700k 4.2ghz

hyper x 32 gb ram 3200 mhz

asus strix 2060 super OC edition

asus strix z490 E-gaming

asus strix thor 850 watt psu

Hello guys,

I was wondering what do you guys think if NVIDIA may support Re-Size BAR on the old RTX 20 super series or not ??

Because I only saw the 30 series will support in future updates.

19 hours ago, Dr0y said:

Like it was said before yes it's backward and forward compatible.  So yes a gen 4 card works in a gen 3 slot and vice versa. 

Also next nvidia gpu are supposed to be pcie gen4.

Also some motherboard manufacturer made z490 pcie gen4 compatible but for now intel don't have any pcie gen4 support on cpu. 

 

 

I didn't know that z490 motherboards supports pcie gen4 but what i know is intel cpu dont lol thanks for that info i guess intel have to do something about it

4 minutes ago, gloop said:

Why would they release a card that only about 20% of the market can use?

it may not benefit them now but they might release it so that next year consumer will be aware of it and have an reason to upgrade for extra 40 fps i guess its just marketing

1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

afaik, gen 3 and 4 use the same pin, but different protocol

 

and intel might be screwed in marketing checkboxes, but i doubt the next gen GPU can even saturate pcie 3.0 x16 for normal gameplays

if they do, it would be a huge leap in performance, or next gen games are coded to be bandwidth intensive

good point,if next gen is really next gen that would benefits to use gen4 then im screwed cause i cant wait for my next build any longer i want it future proof i tend to upgrade rarely like buy the high end stuff and after 6 years upgrade again 

14 minutes ago, Nicolai Mortensen said:

Hi everyone.

 

In the video "This is NOT a normal power supply... - ATX 12VO" Linus and his team managed to get the idle power consumption halfed with the new ATX standard, but a few things in the video raised some questions for me. I'm hoping theres a few extremely bright men and women here, that'll be able to dumb it down to a level I can understand fully.

 

In the video Linus said "Here's the thing. Converting from AC to DC power is extremely inefficient and conventional powersupplies do it multiple times for the multiple voltages that they need to supply. Now it's actually better to go from AC to 12 volt only, like we're doing here, and the derive the other required DC voltages from that [...] But Linus you might say, some highend powersupplies do that already anyway." Does this mean the old standard ATX12V powersupplies that function in this way, would be able to provide a similar efficiency as the new ATX12VO while Idling?

 

The we have the 80 Plus Titanium certification, which have a 10% load standard, that must be at least 90%. Would this be a competitor to the new standard or would you see similar results as in the video aswell here?

 

I hope someone will be able to explain it in debth and thank you in advance for your time

i hope this fail to be honest, i didn't like the idea of taking 5v from the motherboard because motherboard makers will charge more for extra 5v ports for it and i dont see the benefits of it mostly my device is on load and never idle which wont benefits most people,, i guess OEMs will adopt this feature since they sell governments and companies that have normal work load that usually on 40% load

2 minutes ago, Nicolai Mortensen said:

PCIe 4.0 will be able to handle anything PCIe 3.0 could. PCIe 4.0 is not a new standard, it's just a new implementation. It's both forward and backwards compatible, so your current cards will work in a PCIe 4.0 port.

 

Like PCIe 3.0, a manufacturer simply just have to provide a PCIe 4.0 standard on the IO card, question is if the IO card can take advantage of the increased bandwith.

will if nvidia release a gen4 card this year i guess intel will be screwed i was wondering if they left empty pins in the socket to enable pci gen4 like amd

2 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Any PCIe device that supports it.

is the nvme socket also could be pcie gen4 ??

Hey guys ,

I was wondering about the PCIe gen4 and I'm really confused about it 

is it only for storage (M.2 NVMe) or is it also for the graphics cards ?

I'd appreciate the explanation

thanks  

1 hour ago, Aereldor said:

Oh the CPU doesn't throttle, even after my -140 undervolt it does 3.4 on all cores. It just gets to around 92 degrees. It's definitely not a RAM issue, I'm running 2x8gb @ 2667 MHz. I'm trying DDU but I suspect this is just a limit Alienware baked into a BIOS update in response to all the people who had warped heatsinks and were experiencing thermal issues.

oh i thought it did sometimes RAM issues behave like thermal throttling.

also these temps are normal for a laptop just make sure its well ventilated

12 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Running an Alienware 13R3 with a 7700hq and a GTX 1060, after a lot of throttling woe I've managed to get the fucker to behave. 

 

My CPU runs 50-55 light use and my GPU runs 45-50 idle, with the fans completely off, ambient temperature of 31 (yeah it's hot here)

 

At full synthetic load with the fans maxed Ffurmark and Cinebench running concurrently, continuously for like 2 hours), it gets to 87 for the GPU and 92 for the CPU. 

 

No matter how cool it stays, the GPU won't boost beyond 1250 MHz, whether it's at 75 or 90. 

 

Is this even close to normal? It's what I've managed after de-warping my heatsink, repasting, and undervolting the CPU by -150mv. 

I used to have an throttling issue on my device and after repasting and changed the heatsink fans the cpu tops at 68 and still got something like thermal throttling but after looking at everything turned out the cpu was waiting for the RAM to finish because the game i was playing needed more than 8 GB of RAM, hope it will help check your RAM dims cause my other 8 GB that i thought was working was dead and i was running 8 instead of 16

13 hours ago, mariushm said:

Yeah, there's no point in TSMC building more production lines / capacity (it would take 2-3 years and millions of dollars) for Intel to make some budget CPUs and chipsets at TSMC for a couple of years and then move back in house when they solve their production. They'd have a hard time recuperating their investment... and next year they're gonna be on 5nm anyway.

 

They freed some production capacity by not making chips for Huawei, but nvidia and amd probably already placed orders for the wafers available .... and amd / nvidia are not the only ones that need 7nm ... phone chips are huge market for example, fpgas, maybe camera sensors etc etc

TSMC can do a condition contract that if intel wants to manufacture there chips they have to sign for at least 15 years or so , I'm I right ? 

1 hour ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

The SomethingSomething Cache options..... in CODMW graphics settings should be turned off for 8GB Ram systems (if not already when you set low/off), it helps a little i've seen.

You mean the shadow cach and sun cach options ?

1 minute ago, Bazadar said:

Be worth checking your RAM usage while in game, I had a friend with the same problem relating to RAM and Page File

the ram usage is at 7gb while in game do you think setting the paging manually on the ssd that the game is installed on would fix the issue ??

2 minutes ago, Bazadar said:

The games requires a minimum of 8GB ram, You have that for the game and anything you might be running

 

Below taken from Nvidia's site

I'm on the lowest settings possible 1080p + low settings also the recommended is i5 2500k mine is i7-3770k I'm pretty sure that i7-3770k is way better than i5 2500k

Hello guys,

Recently COD war-zone is acting up CPU usage drops + fps drops + freezes  all over the place my setup is :

CPU: i7-3770k turbo boost 3.9 Ghz

CPU cooler: CoolerMaster v6 GT

Ram: 8 GB

GPU: RTX 2060S asus strix 8gb vram

Motherboard: Asus Maximus IV extreme

PSU: Evga 650W

It is the only game with this issue and i know that this is a game optimization issues but no harm in asking

what I did :

1- Turned off Intel speed-step option

2- Turned off CPU spread spectrum

3- Cleaned off the CPU cooler and applied new Artic thermal paste so CPU avg heat production 60c and maximum 68c so no reason for thermal throttling from that point

4- on latest drivers for my chip-set and graphic card

5- delete the whole game and reinstalled it twice

6- restarted shader installation

7- clean install for graphic driver

nothing seems to be working

note that Im playing red dead redemption 2 and other games with high - medium settings avg fps is 71 with max cpu usage at 100% and GPU is 40 - 50 % usage with no issues

3 hours ago, 5x5 said:

Unless you have a 2080 Ti at 1080p, gaming is the same on both AMD and Intel. At 1440p the CPU is usually irrelevant and at 1080p, with a 2080 the difference also disappears because you are GPU-limited.

And if you spend the time tuning your memory and timings and subtimings, the difference disappears as a whole. The 3600X can match the 10600K even with an overclock as long as it comes with proper memory so it really boils down to how much you want to tweak. Stock vs stock - Intel is ~5% ahead in gaming at best. Tuned vs tuned - the difference is 2-3%. It just makes no sense, at least for me, to buy an inferior design which runs a LOT hotter, uses double the power and has security issues for a 5% gaming lead while also losing in everything else by upward of 20% at the same price point.

 

Take this from me - I have an i7 8th gen and I would not recommend it. The difference in real world gaming with an upper mid range card or even high end card doesn't exist. Hell, my friend has a 3600 and 2060 Super. He matches my performance even though I have an *70 class card. The moral of the story is, the increased price, heat and power consumption of Intel make it impossible for me to recommend. I will be moving to Ryzen at the first opportunity I get simply because I will have a MUCH cooler and quieter system with essentially the same gaming performance and VASTLY better work performance.

 

 

Damn you changed my mind hheheheh thats what I wanted to hear I guess thank you bro

Also I'm running 2060s with i7 3770k but its just bad and bottle-necking in some games and i dont know when that cpu will break so ill go with AMD cause i will be waiting for zen3 and that would be better performance than the intel 10th gen by far I Hope

3 hours ago, xg32 said:

it depends on what ur gpu and budget is, if you are going with a 2070S or below, go with a 3600 or 10600k, though if some1 goes with a 10600k with a 2070S, i'd suggest a 2080S and a 3600 with the stock cooler lol, same cost, 

 

If you are going with a 2080S or 2080 ti, go with a 10600k or 10700k, would not recommend the 3700x over the 10600k for gaming. Be aware though that the 3900x has been flashing under 400usd when it goes on sale.

 

honestly seeing a 3900x at 375usd last week would give me pause when buying any intel cpu, even for gaming, makes me wonder what kinda prices microcenter in-store for the 3900x lol.

 

thank you bro for this

thank you guys but I still don't know about gaming on AMD cause I saw lots of benchmark for gaming and most of the cases Intel wins with about 30 fps difference.

39 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

The 3700X but price wise, you can get the much faster 3900X

 

In any case, a lot of your worried are not really warranted. 

 

1 - unless you have a 2080 To and are playing at 1080p with it, both are identical in gaming. With heavy tuning, intel can be 2-3% better on average but that requires a heavy investment in high end board, cooling and power supply as intel CPUs currently use a lot more power and generate a lot more heat than AMD counterparts. This is due to the fact that intel are stuck on a very old 14nm process and are using a refined version of Skylake, which is a 5-year-old design. AMDs Zen 2 is using a more efficient 7nm node and a much more advaced design which allows them to achieve the same performance at roughly half the power and heat as intel.

 

Currently Intel's Z490 platform is the only one having actual BIOS issues. BIOS updated don't mean there are problems, simply means that the OEM is providing optimizations. So I'd you are worried about issues to that degree, intel makes no sense at all.

 

Points 3, 4 and 5 are moot. Windows and the CPUs themselves are reliable. There are no issues with them aside from the intel security holes but I'm not sure if those matter to you.

thats the reason why i want to change to AMD cause intel are basically selling the same thing but with some tuning in my opinion

for new boards bios updates lets say ASUS strix high end boards for a third world country as mine bios updates can be an issue for me as the electricity may go dark on me while I'm upgrading will that be a problem for new boards ?? as I'm still running my old ASUS Maximus 4 I dont know if its easier with new boards

last but not least for Intel security holes i dont know anyone would want anything from me to hack my system so thats not an issue unless they can do a broadcast malware and f*cks every intel 10th gen machine on the planet that would be an issue

1 hour ago, jaslion said:

Can you wait upgrading? Ryzen 4000 is launching in fall and will simply be better than intel 10th gen. I would still recommend the 3700x as it's cheaper than a 10700k an performs within 10% of it allowing for a better gpu.

 

For your points:

 

1. Sometimes an amd cpu is better other times an intel depends on the pricepoint really. (lower end it's basically just amd).

 

2. Both have that. Just because there are bios updates doesn't mean you have to install them. The bonus of amd is that they do make it possible to get an updated bios to support new cpu's on a lot older boards.

 

3. I don't get this one? Windows runs on amd cpus the end?

 

4. Either should be fine. Do keep in mind intel runs a LOT hotter and the stock coolers they give you do NOT cool the cpu enough so you will need to get a third party decent cooler to avoid issues. Amd does not have this issue.

 

5. If you choose decent components and not low end crap (like bad motherboards, garbagefire psu's, sealed cases with no airflow,...) all will run fine

yes I'm waiting for the end of this year to buy a decent pc and as for price i have around 1200 USD

1- price is not an issue here as i buy the best out of something because i don't like to upgrade each year.

2- i just wanted to make sure that the bios updates have no issue to fix as i never owned an AMD machine before but i know a a lot about them. also

3- some of my friends who own AMD have weird BSOD codes that never had with Intel and some weird games problems as well, ii know that each user tends to use his machine differently and there is a lot of stuff that may lead to these issues but those with Intel have never spoken about an issues in there systems same as me! lol.

as for your points on 4 and 5 i always buy high end for example i buy everything asus strix and high end PSU such as EVGA or seasonic

1 minute ago, Srijan Verma said:

If you want best of the line the you go for 10900k.

For intel, you either buy the 10600k or the 10900k, 10700k doesn't really have any arguments for itself.
Yes the 2 more cores will give some benefits in stuff like video editing etc but if you really need that you wouldn't be going intel

How about AMD what is equivalent to 10700k ?

the reason I buy the best of the line is that i tend to upgrade very rarely

Hello Guys,

After the latest video for Linus about locking RAM frequency on B and H chip-sets for Intel MOB I decide after looong run with Intel to go team red on my next build by the end of this year but I still have my doubts about AMD listed below:

1- I feel Intel is better for gaming on most of the titles.

2- Bios issues and frequent Bios updates.

3- Windows support for AMD.

4- although I'm a network engineer and i have pretty much good knowledge about computers since I was 6 yo but i still want something reliable to game on after long day at work that will not ruin my day.

5- I'm rocking i7 3770k overclocked to 4.2 Ghz with 16gb of RAM since the CPU was released and never had a big problem with it like random shutdowns and game issues that need a bios update or any of that sort, So my next build must be as reliable as this one

Please share your experiences with AMD / Intel builds and what do you recommend for an AMD CPU equivalent to i7 10700k.

Note that I don't use my personal setup for programing or rendering or any of that sort I use different machines for each use case this one is pure gaming machine

thanks upfront guys

7 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Zen 3 is ryzen 4000. Not released yet. 

sorry I'm not very good with AMD gen thank you and i will consider this but i was wondering is 3700x have any bios issues and is it reliable for gaming ?? and if you have an AMD CPU do you have any problems with it ?

I've never had an AMD product before so i was just wondering because i have couple of friends who had some issues with there AMD builds

again thank you bro @TofuHaroto