mikeyw64

2 Points of relevance . 1) I was comparing an AIO with a custom loop in two almost identical builds sat in front of me. 2) The LF2 can be topped up quite easily . In fact most AIOs can probably be if you really want too The biggest advantage of a custom loop is that you can add the GPU to it. Yes you can get AIOs for GPUs/get AI cooled GPUs but they're (probably ) not as common. What I have IMHO shown is that the latest generation of AIOs can be as good as (if not better) than a custom loop although I will admit that the custom loop (due to having a much higher water capacity) could probably run at a sustained 100% load far longer than an AIO. But who runs at 100% load all day and if you have a need to do that then you will be building accordingly ;o)

IMHO one of the big advantages of any for of liquid cooling (AIO or custom loop) is generally speaking it will be quieter than a fully air cooled config for the same cooling efficiency

In the real world the biggest difference is (especially as the GPU comes onto load) is that my system with the custom loop is significantly quieter

aye fully aware that the Q300L/Q500Ls have a reputation as Hotboxes I thought it was just an interesting comparison showing how effective the LF2 can be

Hi All given I have 2 almost identical builds in front of me I thought I might compare the LF2 Performance against my custom loop. Damn, the LF2 seems like a good cooler (although noted the custom loop is cooling CPU & GPU) (Ambient was 19.5c, both CPUs with PBO enabled, MY PC (RHS) on its daily settings of 50% Water Pump Speed and Rad Fans fixed at 850RPM, Case Fans fixed at 700RPM, both after approx 30 minutes cinebench R23)

Built for my GFs daughter Coolermaster Q300L EVGA 60W BQ 80+ Bronze PSU Gigabyte B550M D3H 5600X cooled by a Liquid Freezer 2 (top mounted , can just get the RAM out with it fitted but not back in!) MSI GTX 580 8GB Armor Gigabyte 2 x 8Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 1 TB Crucial P2 All fans are Arctic RGB P12 PWM PSTs Perspex Tube to stop GPU Sag Temps are from about 35 minutes into a stress test (ambient was 19c and all side panels and filters fitted) NB am aware that he PSU may be "stealing" some air however I think that is offset by the 2 front fans blowing cool air straight over the GPU

@Somerandomtechyboi As an FYI this is the Thaipoon output

Cheers Its more out of curiosity than anything. On a daily basis its doing what I need of it

@Somerandomtechyboi TBH I didn't really try pushing it (and also my first little foray into looking at it) and it was set manually based on some random suggestions ;o) The actual Ram is Crucial Ballistix BL2K16G30C15U4B Mobo for reference is a Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite

So did a little tinkering to work out (for me) what I think my optimal daily driver settings are as opposed to going for "Balls to the wall" chasing numbers. Looks like my winner is the green line. Small performance uplift , lower temps (and yes I'm lazy, all done from Ryzen Master)

I wonder if its possible to Patent "Common Sense" ?

So with both the CPU & GPU on their daily driver OCs and the pumps/fans also on their daily driver curves (based on water temp delta) I set it off on a 2 hour Cinebench & Heaven run and I'm happy with the results.Could I drop the temps a bit by ramping up the fan and pump speeds? Possibly but I wanted to load this as it would be in its daily driver setup and TBH it's never really going to hit these sort of sustained loads. NB for some reason HWinfo has not picked up some of the current sensor names from Aquasuite so thats something I need to look at although it doesn't affect the figures, yes I could have gone into the CSV and amended manually but I didn't So for reference Temps BLU is CPU temp Green is GPU Temp Pink is Water Temp Speeds Blue is the pump [upper limit is ~4500] Green is the radiator fans (Arctic P12s) [upper limit is ~1700] Pink is the case fans (EZDIY Fabs) [upper limit is ~1700] Next step is to fix the leak on the waterblock for the 980TI and get that in here

Reason I'm currently still using the GTX950 rather than the GTX980TI is there is a leak from the water block. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0HWmfYZ0PU Big shout out to the guys & gals at XSPC for being so on the ball regarding a query on an obsolete product. The intial response made me smile for some reason "Well I’ve never seen that before!" Anyways top marks for very quickly identifying the issue and pointing me in the direction of a fix [my comments] -------------- Just took a look at the design. It’s a small internal oring that’s failed. See the round part with the hole in the middle. That oring will need replacing. Bodging it with silicone {as I asked] would work for a while but it’s not ideal. We don’t [have replacements] . I’ll have to check with engineering to find the sizes. 1x 902mm (main gasket) 1x 82mm (where the issue is) 2x 20*1.5mm (connector block) That’s the outer diameter and thickness. The material is buna-n, but silicone would be fine too.

Osprey Rebuilt Originally i was planning on a full custom case + cooling loop however for now the custom case element has been put on hold. I have however taken the principle of what I wanted to achieve (ie the radiators isolated from the main case body) and for now built a custom soft loop (rather than the hard loop originally envisioned) into my Q500L. Yes I know there is some jankiness but it does what I want and I'm happy. Case: Coolermaster Q500L (inverted, extra feet, plastic side panel replaced with tempered glass) PSU: Corsair SF650 + Cablemod cable set MoBo : Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite RAM: 64Gb Crucial Ballistix 3000 DDR4 CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X GPU: GTX950/GTX980TI (see follow up post) Boot Drive: Crucial P2 300GB NVME Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB Res/Pump: EK-Quantum Kinetic FLT 360 DDC Radiators: 2 x XSPC TX360 Crossflow CPU Block: EK-Classic GPU (950) Block: noname Chinese cheapie GPU (980TI) Block: XSPC Razor GTX 980 & Backplate Case Fans: EZYDIY Fab Moonlight Radiator Fans: Arctic P12 Fan/RGB Controller: Aquacomputer Octo/Aquasuite software RGB Hub: Generic powered hub Here's the Jankiness Looks a bit cleaner from the front

Probably not but I thought "why not" plus of course should leave room on the table for a GPU/CPU upgrade in the future.