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MS have recently been using the office 365 stranglehold to: 1. keep their customers licencing the Azure AD platform for authorisation and authentication 2. push the Intune product for device management (e.g. Mobile Iron and others are getting locked out because Intune will better integrate with Azure AD 3. even to the point of pushing tight Azure AD integration into mobile Edge browser, and telling us to use that instead of Safari on iOS (FFS!!!) to get integrated SSO on portable devices. Back to the old, reliable, MS behaviours. Screw them, and Oracle.

I'll speak as a Dev. I write and design systems for airline logistics. This stuff is all deployed backend on AWS (Amazon Web Services), in languages like Java, Scala, Python, Node.js and so on, plus, front-end interfaces in web technologies like React JS. So the first point I'll make I don't give a damn about Visual Studio, or even Xcode, per se. My development group tends to use JetBrains IDEs like Intellij IDEA, Pycharm, or Webstorm for JS. We use up and down open source tooling for just about everything else, apart from a few AWS bits and bobs we can't avoid. Our code runs in disposable linux-based micro-services running in Amazon's ECS or EKS (Kubernetes), and only get there via an automated compile-build-test-package-test-run process (aka the CI/CD) which *itself* runs inside disposable images spun up just once on AWS to run the build/deploy/test processes and then thrown away. I've got Docker and K8s locally that I can use to spin up my own environment on my own Mac to run the tests before I push my code into the pipeline. MacOS in its heart implements the Unix Philosophy which is a big big big deal to a lot of us old-school devs. Hell, we have returned to `make` and Makefiles to create builds. Linux would work perfectly for us, except -- the other stuff that we do, we do inside a corporation (an airline) requires we also have access to Outlook and Word and Excel etc. Why not Windows? Go and look about installing `git` (source code versioning) inside Windows. (Nowadays I guess that there is a possibility this is not the nightmare it once was, but it's way too late for that ... most devs have moved on years ago). This is the same for 70% of all the other tooling. Both Linux and Mac allows us to install all the tooling that we need usually with a package manager (`yum install somepackage` or `brew install somepackage`); and if you don't want to do that its usually a simple matter of downloading a file and `tar zxvf tarball.tgz` or checking it of its github repository or whatever. I switched to Macs nearly 15 years ago after years of trying to make Linux work properly on laptops and getting increasingly frustrated by the whole process. One day about 2005 or 2006 one of the other devs brought a 17" intel-based Macbook Pro into work and showed us that he could check out the code repository and `mvn clean install run` into its native bash shell and goddamn it just worked, just like that, the entire dev system running on the Mac. Inside 3 months 80% of the devs had Macs... I've never looked back. As far as I can tell the only devs who use Windows are either forced to (corporate standards), or they are developing specifically for the Windows platforms. I'm sure that it is possible to do all of this on a Windows operating system, it just always feels hacky, with weird custom workarounds. Just as I'm sure it's possible to use Linux for all the corporate stuff we need too, but again, with a bunch of weird workarounds, lol Open Office. ((Before anyone starts I HATE _ALL_ word processors with a vehement passion, I wrote my thesis in markedup text using Pandoc and LaTeχ, and yes, on a Mac ... but I'm not an ordinary office worker and MS Office is long and deeply embedded into the modern corporation.))

I said this in the thread asking for opinions about this, and it's in the video, but iMessage is Apple's killer app. I know there's Signal, and I have it installed, but only about three people I communicate with use it. iMessage just works ... go to send a "text" to a phone number, oh, bang, it's a blue bubble and all is good. Air Drop is also tremendous. Yes I know there's "apps" for all these things, but none are universal. Oh you got an iPhone, iPad or a Mac? I can securely message you and send you that funny pic I took of my cat without any further issues or pfaffing about.

this will be the same microsoft that is trying to use its dominance in the office software space (i.e. office 365) tie their customers to their security solution (i.e. Azure AD) and device management solution (i.e. intune) but _not only_ this, now they think they will try to force us to install and use their janky mobile browser (i.e. edge) on our (many) iOS devices in order for SSO to work in our responsive web applications! back to the MS of old, just when I was warming to them.

I’m a developer. I switched from Linux nearly 15 years ago. I need all my tools to work in a Unix like environment, and the Mac provides that in spades. Most tools that i need are available, eg awk sed grep find dig and so on without weird and wacky workarounds. Homebrew to install tons of other stuff. The consumer side of the coin - smooth integration with my iphone, music, and photos, and all that stuff, is just icing on the cake. Probably the number one ‘ecosystem’ app is iMessage. Being able to text straight off my computer is a god send sometimes.

Yeah that’s true I’ve discovered. It’s enough to keep the Mac from draining its battery, until I run something cpu intensive. On the hand, it’s GIGANTIC, and cheap, and I can use those inputs. It is amazing to look at, and I have the desk space to accomodate it — my work desk is an old kitchen table so it’s got plenty of depth.

This was amazing. Thanks Linus! With regard to the computer memory, I hope you mention in Destin’s video that the magnetic core memory is the reason why many operating systems STILL produce a ‘coredump’ when they break (ie a dump file of the memory contents). This is kind of real world hard problem engineering is really fascinating. So many people don’t seem to get why you can just slap whatever latest consumer technology into machines this complex. Maybe these videos can help them understand.

I am resurrecting this thread just to complete it in case anyone ever comes across it in a search. I found my monitor. Its that LG 43” monster: the LG 43UD79-B. Turns out it’s the cheapest 4K monitor you can buy (currently) that’s got a power delivery USB-C connection, and display port and HDMI. It cost me $799 AUD which is decent for a monitor with all those features. Even LGs lesser (smaller) models with USBC or thunderbolt cost way more, even for ones with similar panels and specs to only DisplayPort/HDMI connections.

Do you have any other display to try and connect it to? Do you have something else to plug into the display? Those simple steps will eliminate whether or not the display itself is causing the problem, or whether is something software or hardware related on your computer. Also, try another display cable.

Hello yes, I am rapidly reaching the same conclusion. It's easy to find a reasonable quality 4k display with HDMI/DP inputs cheap enough that the additional money for a dock isn't a big deal (and it has other uses of course). The online stores haven't apparently caught up to the fact that people might be interested in USB-C or Thunderbolt 3 as a first class search term. Finding out that you can't search for it even on PC Parts Picker tho is a real head-desk moment (oh, but hey, I can look for a monitor with a BNC analogue video input --- there's exactly one with a price ?).

Armed with the list from this great thread below as a starting point, I'm trying to find a 4k monitor which has some specific requirements. It's been a long time since I found researching a product so exhausting and time consuming. Getting good information about specs from the online stores is hard; they are very inconsistent how or if they present this information. I've got two Macs in daily use. One is my programming machine, supplied by work. It's a 2017 15" MacBook Pro (i.e. thunderbolt 3, shitty keyboard). The second machine is my music production computer. It's a 2013 15" MBP, and I love it. It basically functions as a desktop nowadays, connected to all my music equipment and an ageing second monitor. I want to connect both it and the programming computer to a new display, because I've found that increasingly when I use the 2017 MacBook at home (I work a fair bit from home), I'm setting it up on my desk so I can plug an external keyboard into it (the old school Apple wired full sized keyboard, which IMHO is the best keyboard ever made). I would also like this monitor to delivery power to the newer Mac, because that's massively convenient to wrangling an additional power brick and cables. At work I've already got a similar setup. What I need out of my monitor: UHD/4k resolution. Size: 28" to 32" Bright (I work in a room that's glass on two sides, heaps of natural light in the daytime) Don't care about gaming features, this will be connected to Macs ... 60Hz refresh is fine. USB-C and Display Port inputs (or Thunderbolt 3 + DP/Thunderbolt2) Preferable to auto switch between the two based on signal detection Enough power delivery over the USB-C to power the 2017 MBP 15" A USB hub would be a 'nice to have' to connect the wired keyboard permanently but its one feature I'm willing to sacrifice. The BenQ EW3270U nearly fit the bill but I've since found out there's no power delivery down the USB-C. thank you for any suggestions. EDIT: PC Parts picker doesn't list USB-C or Thunderbolt 3 as input options so I can't search there.

oh man, thank you very much for this. it's so hard shopping for a usb-c or thunderbolt 3 4k monitor, most of the sellers on amazon & other websites never put the interface specs in the description and i've got dozens of tabs open flicking back and forth between online stores and manufacturers sites. it is so far one of the worst purchasing research experiences i've had in a very long while.