GuyWhoGamedOnAn2011Laptop

Well I have good news I think. Finished building, turned her on, and everything lit up like I would expect it to. Posted as well. I used five fans per hub for my chaotic yet somehow orderly mind (2 hubs, 10 fans, 5 fans a hub) and each hub's fans even show their own color group (hub 1's five fans are all blue, hub 2's are all green). I think that bodes well. If I do end up blowing the jrainbow header, I'll either get it fixed or buy a new board if nessacary (old one will be kept for future build that doesn't have RGB if the rest of the board is still good.) Now to see if I can control each fan separately and properly but that's an adventure for myself (hopefully I won't need to ask questions and it'll all just work ha). Thanks for your help. I'll definitely not go for cheap fans in the future. Though in my opinion, some of the prices I'm seeing for fans from well known makers is crazy. 73 dollars for three Corsair SP120s would mean I'd be spending more on fans than I did for my monitor lol EDIT: Also, I did a quick search and I think what may have saved my mobo is that the hubs said to plug them into the CPU fan header, not SYS fan, so I did and MSI says the CPU fan header can handle 2A of current, not just 1. Might've saved me lol

I see. That's what I get for buying cheap Chinese fans. So it's basically, "Do it at your own risk" then?

If by load you mean power draw, each hub has its own SATA connector for power. Though these hubs from a 6 fan pack, each box has 7 spots for fans, three on each "side" and one on the "top" with the "bottom" being where the SATA connector is. There is also a non-removable cable that the manual says goes to the CPU fan header and some kind of reset cable that is removable.

It's a MSI Mag X570S Tomahawk Max in a 1000D and the fans are from upHere and I believe are called "T7SYC7-6 SYNC RGB Case Fan", atleast according to their amazon page. Sorry I did not prove that initially, I was very tired when I posted this and didn't think it'd be relevant. I do know the case comes with a Commander Pro but it has no place for the jrainbow plugs needed for the RGB. As for why I want 10 fans (the other 3 are just open slots on the hubs), because that's what I choose. This build is meant to be going overboard, hence the use of a 1000D and the 10 fans.

Building my new setup and I'm looking to use ten A-RGB fans (8 in front, 2 in back), plus three on my AIO. I've run into a slight problem I'm not sure how to deal with. Obviously, my mobo doesn't have that many fan or jrainbow headers, only having two jrainbow headers, one of which is taken up by my AIO. However, since the fans I bought came in 6 packs, each pack has its own powered fan hub, each supporting 7 A-RGB fans and having a SATA connector for power. From what I've researched, it sounds like I can connect one fan hub to the other and then thanks to their powered nature, I would have support for 13 A-RGB fans both header and power wise. I'm just not sure and I don't want to damage anything. If that is possible, would I be able to control all 10 fans individually and would I need to plug in both SATA connectors or just one? Never touched RGB until this point so I know nothing about it quite works so hand holding may be required.

Yes, I only realized a few hours after this post that front mounting was impossible. I think my brain was a bit scrambled as even just getting the parts was a nightmare (payment problems) and I posted this soon after. Your solution does seem like the only realistic one so I'll take it. Thank you.

So I'm gonna be building my new setup in a Corsair 1000D. I have most of the rest figured out but I'm having a hard time deciding on how I want the fans set up. My last build went with pulling air in from the front and side (it was one of those old cases that didn't have a glass side panel and had two side mounts for 120s) and blowing it out the back and top which was nice because it blew cool air directly onto the GPU and at the CPU cooler and was supplemented by the air coming from the front. This time however, I decided to go full bore (in novice PC building terms) with a 420mm AIO. This has left me with a quandary. I'm wanting to have the AIO pull air in from outside for better cooling but that then leads, obviously, to hot air being blown into the case. I can't decide how best to mitigate that. If I had been able to go with my first case option, a Thermaltake P8, I'd have mounted the AIO to the right side (looking at it from the front) mounts so that the hot air would get blown right back out by the front fans. I know the 1000D has two front rows of fan mounts and can mount the rad for the AIO so I had the idea of mounting the rad to one of them and then fill the remaining front mounts with fans pulling air out, with the idea being as the hot air from the rad gets blown in, most of it gets pulled sideways and then out by the fans around it, with the rear and top pulling air in to combat the remaining hot air before it all gets blown out too. Problem is, the 1000D has a glass front plate that I imagine would result in a circular system that causes the air the AIO gets to be the same warm air it just had. My next idea was to mount the rad to the top and have the rear fans blow air in to try and get most of the warm air out towards the front as quickly as possible to be pulled out or to fill the front mounts so they pull as much cool air in as possible to mitigate the hot air from the AIO and have it all blown out the back. I don't know which would be better. Of course, there's the option of just having the AIO use the warm case air and mounting it to the top. I am open to that if my desire of the rad using cool outside air is not viable. As you can see, I'm quite conflicted on the matter and don't know how I should proceed. One thing I should note is watercooling the GPU is not an option. I do not have the skill nor the nerve to do such a thing. Maybe one day but not with this build. Should also mention I do have enough fans to fill all possible mounts if needed. Any help would be appreciated. EDIT: Forgot to mention that I have already bought the 1000D so the case choice is locked in. I know the 1000D wasn't really meant to be an airflow case, I just want to try and maximize my cooling as best I can.

I'd like to get a second drive for them but I've hit the max number of drives I can stuff in my case. It technically has space for more (slots, PSU/mobo connects) but I physically can't route the cables and still get the side panels on. Could barely get the three drives I do got in it in. Honestly, there's a lot I regret with this build (too small a case, going with Intel instead of AMD, etc) but hey it was my first and honestly, building another is not something that is viable right now (got the fish but no chips lol). Thanks for your answer though. The 4560T and 7700 are both KabyLake so I believe I should be ok.

So finally, over three years after first building it, I've at last managed to purchase a new CPU for my PC. I'm giddy with excitement at finally being able to leave my current pos CPU behind and experience the joys of 4C8T gaming (be quiet you AMD boys with your fancy 8C16T CPUs .) My glorious choice? An I7-7700 lol But hey, it's the best possible CPU I can get for my motherboard, save for the K variant (which is funny since my mobo doesn't support OC lol) and according to userbenchmark, it will be nearly a 1/3 faster than my current G4560T (admittedly, she's done better than could be expected, running games Can I Run It claims I can't at pretty good graphics and FR.) I only have one concern. Is there anything that needs done before I start taking things apart? Everything I've seen only deals with both the CPU and mobo. I don't want to do something that'd I regret as the drives in my computer are my only ones and hold a lot of irreplaceable stuff.

So I've been playing PC Building Simulator a lot and its dawned on me that I really like putting together computers. I built my own a couple years ago and plan on building another within a year or so. I also just upgraded from 8 to 16 GB of RAM and the process of pulling the tabs apart and pushing the RAM into place made me remember how much fun it was to buy the parts for my PC, put them together, do cable management, and then install my OS and that good feeling I had when I finally finished installing my OS and had a brand new system at my disposal. While obviously building a PC in PCBS is much different than physically putting together a rig, judging from how much I liked putting together my own, I think I'd enjoy the job of taking a pile of parts and assembling them into a working computer. I think Linus or Jay once said building a PC is like playing with Legos and I'd say they were right. If I was to start PC building as a second, minor source of income (I do like my current job enough to keep it), I'd like it to be like it is in game. Just me in my home, taking in a build request, ordering the parts, then putting it together, and shipping it out to the person who wanted it. I don't know if that's possible or if it is, how I would go about getting started. If I'd need to actually create a registered business or whatnot or if I could just do PC building and part replacement and not the whole score of taking a part apart and fixing it. So I thought I'd put my thoughts out here and see what everyone thinks/says. Like I said, I wouldn't want it to become my primary source of income since I do like my job. I just figure if I enjoy doing it, I could do it for money as a side gig, kinda like how people have been making homemade masks and selling them.

I am planning on upgrading my CPU. I remember hearing about how changing major components of your system messes up your Windows 10 and requires you reactivating your install. My copy remains unactivated. Would changing my CPU do anything?

I watched Linus' video that blind tested 22 different keys. I figured that would be a good sample size.

I have read on several articles that it is a good idea to choose a PSU whose wattage is twice that of your estimate. Of course, most of them were from 2014 so maybe something changed. A little more info than that would be nice. Something wrong with the board itself? Or just a personal preference in relation to the keys? What exactly makes Nvidia cards better enough at recording/streaming that would make me want to choose them over the 5700 XT or just waiting for Big Navi? Considering, as I wrote, that the 2070, 2080, and 2080 Super seem, from benchmarks of games I've seen on Youtube, to simply be slightly better 1080 Tis with Ray Tracing and that 5700 XT matches the 2070 in performance and price and is only off the 2080 and the 2080 Super's performance by 10-30 FPS while they are close to or over twice the price of the 5700 XT. I suppose I should clarify that when I say "video editing" I mean mostly trimming videos, maybe messing with the audio, and other minor things. In recording, I don't really understand the differences in codecs used for video and audio and have just gone by feel in the past.

Budget: (including currency): Would prefer to try and stay within 3-3.5k or up to what the system would be with Big Navi. Am willing to go above that should the result but substantial enough. Currency is Freedom Bucks, aka USD. Country: Uncle Sam's Attic (The USA lol) Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Pretty much any game from the last 15 years plus any game that might be coming in the next 5 years or so, some minor video editing with Sony Vegas Pro, and recording gameplay for Youtube, and broadcasting to Twitch. Other details: (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): My current rig https://pcpartpicker.com/user/XfoXshoreX/saved/dnFbjX CPU: G4560T 2.9 GHz Dual-Core CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL16 Storage: 1 x ADATA SU800 256 GB SSD 1 x OEM Seagate ST320LT007 9ZV142 320 GB HDD GPU: MSI Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Case fans: Cougar Turbine 120 My planned build https://pcpartpicker.com/user/XfoXshoreX/saved/8gzzNG CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition Motherboard: MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Storage: 1 x ADATA XPG SX6000 128 GB M.2-2280 NVME SSD (for the OS and other such things that tend to get installed where the OS is, like stuff in AppData) 2 x Crucial MX500 2 TB 2.5" SSD (for all the games I currently own plus about 800 GB for future purchases on one and other for videos to be recorded to, stored on, edited and such) 1 x Seagate Barracuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM HDD (for all the misc stuff I have like pictures, videos, relaxation materials , etc) GPU: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Devil Case: Corsair 760T PSU: Asus 1200 W 80+ Platinum Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Case Fans: 5 x Thermaltake Riing 14 Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Wired Gaming Keyboard Mouse: Logitech G502 HERO Wired Optical Mouse As the title of my PPP list suggests, this build is meant to be a AMD based (GPU and CPU) Black and Red PC. That list is what I was planning on doing but recently realized the 3950x isn't quite the right fit both performance wise and price for what I want. Also, I don't expect the 5700 XT will be the final choice for a GPU as Big Navi will probably come out before I purchase and assemble this build, which I hope/expect to do within about the next half a year to a year. Should Big Navi prove to be a failure however, I want to either stick with the 5700 XT or pick up a 1080 Ti if I can find one for cheap for the "street cred", if you will, as I've read and seen that the 5700 XT and 1080 Ti are pretty evenly matched with the 5700 XT still being cheaper new than many 1080 Tis are used. While I'd have no problem spending the extra money if the performance difference was vast, say 20 fps on most games, if the performance is pretty even, I'd like to keep my idea of a AMD GPU and CPU system going. It really depends on what I think/feel when I do get to buying the GPU and if Big Navi fails. My goal is to be able to run pretty much any game from the last 15 years at the highest settings at 2560x1440 and at 60 FPS at least with 120 being preferred and any that may come out in the next 5 at reduced settings, say 1920x1080 at 60 FPS. Despite this, I do not want to go with any of the RTX 2000 series as from what I've seen, the 2060 can't fulfill my desired performance, the 2070, 2080 and their Super versions seem to be just 1080 Tis but more expensive and with Ray Tracing, and the 2080 Ti is just far too expensive for the performance/graphical gain I've seen in comparison videos. Ray tracing seems to be the only major plus to the RTX series but isn't enough to offset the price to me. It is said to be a feature of Big Navi but should I end up not getting it, I can live my life without Ray Tracing. For my cooling, I am very solidly set on air cooling. From what I've seen from guys like Linus, a good air cooler for your CPU is just as good as a AIO water cooler and I'm just not interested in a custom water loop. My plan for the five case fans is two exhausts on the front, one intake on the back, and two intakes on the top. That way I achieve positive air flow and can use the front of my PC to warm my hands on a cold day lol Talking about a few other things, I chose the 760T as my case and the X570 as my motherboard because I've learned what building on a motherboard that's a bit too small and in a case that's probably a tad too small for my fat, fumbling hands, feels like. That and with working on my original idea of using a 3950x, I found that a X570 was probably the best choice. Although now that I'm probably going to be using something other than a 3950x, I'd very much prefer to stay on a full sized ATX board atleast, if not the X570. I saw many reviewers, including Linus, really praised the 760T and I liked its look and many of its features, like 5.25 inch drive bays for my optical drive, versatile drive cages, great cable management space, etc. I do want to include a optical drive, partly for the hippie creds, but also because I don't really have anyway to play CDs or Blu-Rays, except on my Xbox, and it'd be nice to be able to just pop it into my PC instead of having to rely on using my Xbox, which I usually have on loan to my brother. Plus I never know when I'll find a game on disc that isn't on Steam that I may want to play. Another note would be my choice of mouse and keyboard. I chose the keyboard based on the K70's RGB features and because...well...the clicky sound. The particular model on my PPP list uses MX Blue keys and from what I've seen, they are the loudest and most clicky sounding keys out there, which would bother most people but doesn't bother me and I want to win the Click War with my brother and his keyboard. If there is a better keyboard out there that uses MX Cherry Blues and has RGB that you can program modes and profiles for, I'm willing to change on that. The mouse, well, it's a bit of a blind spot for me. Even with videos on the subject, I have a hard time telling just what features my mouse should have. I saw a lot of positive talk of the G502 when trying to figure it out so I went with it but am up to any recommendations. In relation to my storage, I really messed up with my decision to only buy a single 256 SSD for my current rig in addition to a HDD I got from my old laptop. I quickly realized that some 500 GB on two drives wasn't going to be enough for all my needs so in this new build, I made sure to plan for plenty of space with multiple drives for multiple things. With all the games I currently own, plus all those currently on my Steam wishlist, I'm looking at just shy of 1.2 TB of space needed so I had to go for a 2 TB drive to keep all my games in one place, which would be much nicer, and space for future games I might run across or which might release. A while back I thought of just getting a M.2 SSD for my current system but then realized my entire rig needed replacing/upgrading (too many bad choices made like mobo size and age, case size, etc for me to feel like attempting to upgrade it) so I abandoned the idea. My current plan is to get a small, fast 128 GB M.2 NVME drive to store my OS and other things that tend to get installed where the OS resides, like various things in AppData, then a 2 TB SSD for my games as I've explained previously, a second one of that drive to store videos that I've recorded or have edited and are ready to upload to Youtube, and finally a 1 TB HDD where I can store all the misc stuff I have, like pictures, non-Youtube videos, relaxation materials , etc. Finally, I should probably explain why I'm planning this build so far out from building it. The reason is I don't currently have the financial abilities to buy pretty much anything on this list save minor stuff like the case fans or CPU cooler. However, I have been pretty well assured that within a month, a job will be opening up that I will almost certainly get should I apply, that will pay enough for me to actually start buying expensive things like I could when I built my current system. My current rig is leaps and bounds better than the old 2011 laptop I used to use, and from which I got my user name, but it still lags behind what I had hoped it'd be, somewhat due to the CPU that wasn't my original choice but had to buy because I'd been fired (long story) from the job I had when I was putting it together. Now that tech has advanced a fair bit from what it was at the turn of 2018 into 2019, when I built my current rig, and I've become a bit more knowledgeable on just want kind of hardware I'd need to achieve my desire for a "future-proof" PC, that will let me enjoy all my current games plus any that come in the next 5 years that pique my interest at atleast 1080p and 60 FPS. "Future-proof" Blegh, I hate that term because the conation it carries isn't quite what I mean but is the closet term I can think of. I do know that DDR5, PCI-e 5.0, and AM5 will probably be in our hands in 1-2 years and thus "future proofing" is pointless. Tech just advances too fast. What I'm attempting to do is build a machine that is "bleeding edge", so to speak, today and "acceptable" in 5 years. On top of that, I believe that by planning so far in advance that I will be able to tweak or change my build in relation to any advances that happen, like the aforementioned DDR5, PCI-e 5.0, and AM5, should they occur before I begin building, and act on and consider advice I get on what I should change before I have the money in hand and get the "got the money, must buy now, forget other options" bug that I always get when I finally have the chance to get something I really want. If you've made it this far, I thank you for your dedication to atleast reading this. I wanted to explain my thoughts on why I chose certain things and to try and answer some questions I may get, like why I'm planning a PC that I can't build until atleast 6 months from now. If you're still willing to give advice, I'll gladly accept it. I do apologize if I act "defensive" in replies as I have the tendency to ask for advice and then fight with it when I get it. I'll try and avoid doing that after having put you through reading my novel of a post.

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