Jacob Morris

I'm looking at the NZXT Kraken X61, which is 27mm rab and 25 mm fans. So you are only at 52mm

Just found this on Fractal Design's website: "Top – 420, 360, 280, 240, 140 and 120 mm radiators. (A thickness limitation of 55mm for both radiator + fan applies on 420, 280 and 140 mm radiators) (420 and 360 mm radiators require removal of the ODD bay)" So only the 420 and 360 mm rads require you to remove the optical drives. Awesome, thanks. I found a similar picture on their website, but it didn't go into all this detail.

Will it fit in the top without having to remove the bays?

Will a 280mm radiator fit in the front of the Fractal Design Define R5 without having to remove the optical drive cage? Thanks

sorry, I meant the R9 270. Missed typed.

And how is this a bad build?

Well I don't think anyone would say that those were bad parts, plus the case is a personal choice. I did look at the 220, but no front port USB 3, which is important to me. I think that I am going to go with the AMD build because it is a little less money and I think I am going to change the CPU to the FX-8320, and keep the H60 to keep it cool and quiet. Does anyone have any objections based ON RELIABILITY of these parts?

I am going to be build a new computer here shortly for someone and I am wondering which of the two builds below will give more bang for their buck. They use it mostly for web browsing and some light gaming. They want it to last at least 3 years and still be running well so which of these builds look better. These parts are going to stay that same, CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 GPU: R7 270 RAM: G.Skill Ares 1866 mhz, 8GB SSD: Crucial M500 120GB HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB PSU: Corsair CX 500M Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) My question is, which of these two options is better Option 1: CPU: Intel i5-4570 MB: Gigabyte GA-Z87-DS3H Option 2: CPU: AMD FX-6300 MB: Asus M5A97 R2.0 Also, would the Corsair Hyper 212 Evo be just as efficient and quiet as the H60? Thanks

Oh, that is what you are talking about. I do have a drive, but I have decided to replace it which a new Seagate. Since that old one is only 5400 rpm and has a smaller cache. So there isn't any extra $50. Sorry I didn't make my self clear on that.

Thanks everyone for the explanations

@Recon-UK if crossfire was ever gone on this motherboard it would be 16x, 4x correct? would that 4x lead to any tangible slow downs?

I don't think that is going to happen, if it was my machine, yes. But I am on a pretty strict budget building it for someone else and that is a $100 stretch. At which points you could just spend $50 more and do crossfire with another 270

What? I have already upgraded it to a R7 270. Where would the extra $50 come from? @Recon-UK, I know, it is really annoying to do it on a phone. I was having trouble earlier when I answered because I was on my phone.

This is just a educational question, but why is it that an Intel i5-4570 (3.2 Ghz - 3.6 Ghz quad core) gets a higher CPU benchmark score than an AMD FX-6300 (3.5 Ghz - 4.1 Ghz hex core)?. Does the Intel just do more work in each clock cycle or what? I have just been wondering about it, Thanks

@Recon-UK, @Thebman712, Ok, here is the adjusted list. Any other suggestions? PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3sWTe Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3sWTe/by_merchant/ Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3sWTe/benchmarks/ CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ NCIX US) Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.23 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($74.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Club 3D Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ NCIX US) Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black/Orange) ATX Mid Tower Case ($40.00) Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer (Owned) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (Owned) Total: $733.16 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-16 17:19 EDT-0400)