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just make sure you have the most up to date mobo bios that really does help ram compat. My 3200 didnt want to run at 3200mhz at all on my 2600. On my 3600 it did ok but after the latest bios update it auto sets to 3200 and runs great so improvements come with time.

well i will say as far as ram pickyness a 1600af is prob more picky than a 2400g. and your mobo will matter to. I have had ram compat issues but most really do work now but you may not get the rated mhz out of it. I have a 3200mhz dom plat kit i use and in reality gaming if i let my pc not xmp the mem it sets it to like 2132mhz vs 3200 and the performance dif is not that big esp in gaming. So if you get ram thats rated 2666 base no xmp i think you will be fine no matter. But i really would if you could spend the extra $15 to $20 on the corsair. But v-color i know works on a 2200g and 2600

tbh i have ran both side by side and have seen no difference. The only difference i see is there is more stuff on hwinfo i need to hide so i can see the important stuff in one screen lol even with a 4k monitor

i was gonna reccomend those as well but they didnt pop up i have seen them around If you want really budget you can go here and buy two single sticks https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YP6CW8P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

i was seeing alot of people hitting like 70+ and i have never seen mine go above 62 maybe 63 no matter what i have been doing. I even had it OC to 4.2ghz with boost still enabled so it never would drop from 4.2. In fact i actually got the x only for the extra tdp not the extra base clock because i assumed tdp will allow me more headroom to boost and oc if i wanted. My 2600's did not do nearly as good on cooling nor speed

tbh ram is at a good price right now and https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=16gb+ddr4&qid=1591992397&sr=8-3 is probably only $5 to at most $10 more than the cheapest but worth the extra for the CL you get that a cheaper ram prob would not.

so is this right? i have tried several different programs and actually perfer hwmonitor but used hwinfo cause i know its most popular here. I can run the test longer later but i have before on hwmonitor and ryzen master and all show the same.

Dude those are sweet especially if you love high end audio and horns like the crazy stuff B&W has done with horns

tbh unless you do gfx design and or a pro gamer i wouldnt drop 1500 on a new monitor period. A 980ti should be fine for a game like league even in 4k but tbh if you are looking to add a 3rd monitor i would still consider a gpu upgrade around the corner. You are getting about 1070 performance which is still decent but even games like league with updates will eat at your fps quick once you go to 4k. I would say if currently in league you can run it at 4k with your required refresh rate another monitor might eat 10fps but that also depends on your cpu too and the cycles it needs to complete to keep up. If you are running something amd FX level or less i would stop with the monitor and start considering time for a full pc update. For one or two 1080p or even 1440p monitors at even 144hz it should be fine for a game like league but i feel you are borderline even with an esports title. On top of that your vram is what 6gb which is again might be sufficient for league but between that and the windows you think you could open and use with multiple 4k montiors it wont be. Again if you just play league and you dont make money playing it forget a $1500monitor you could probably build a better pc outright for that cost unless you are running a 6700k or equivalent/better cpu. And frames win games not necessarily refresh rate or resolution. So IMHO if i had to choose between 4k/144hz or 300+FPS i would take 300+FPS period at 60hz. And if i had to choose between a 3rd 4k monitor (mind you i have a 4k and a 1080p 144hz on my Gtx1080) i would still choose a gfx card update if $1500 is your legit budget. Get a sub $300 27" 1440p 120/144hz dell monitor and call it a day. If i made money gaming maybe i would pick a monitor or something else for frivolous needs but a better gpu is never a bad choice esp if you are already 2 generations behind. Just cause it can keep up with legacy titles does not mean next years titles will play nearly as nice with a 980ti. I hit the same wall with a HD7950 where it was amazing up until a point where even mhz and mem wise it may match a 1050 or 1060 but performs no where near as well unless i just play old games which eventually will be patched to support new hardware better anyway.

Ok that was a great and helpful answer mariushm. I was sure it was (for the most part safe) as i have done this for many years on cheap janky fun builds. And my sons 2200g has been running just fine with to me no noticeable performance loss with a 255w dell oem psu(not sure what manufacturer i was just sure 250w was plenty for a 2200g with one m.2 keyboard, mouse, and gamepad and maybe ocassional other peripherals. I was tempted to try a 2600 or 3600x but then it would of been alot of work especially without the time or equipment to properly check and the time to run ALL the benchmarks. So essentially kinda like my assumption if you do not overload the wattage of the psu and the psu is not poorly made everything will function just fine. And on newer psu i would assume that if you did over draw power the psu would probably just shut off before any damage is done if it is detectable like over temperature in likely areas of failure. (and this is if you can find a even marginally quality psu made in 2019 with just a 20pin mobo and 4pin cpu)

But will it draw more power? Will the motherboard tell its only a 20pin and a 4 pin and limit its consumption?

? Im just asking what the over all effects are if they have been tested? Like take a cpu and bench it with a full 24pin and 8pin power for mobo and cpu and test it with a 20pin and 4pin psu. For say an average user who is not overclocking would there be any disadvantages?

Just curious and cant find any where that test the actual effects of running a motherboard designed for 20+4 pin power and 8pin cpu power on just a 20pin psu and 4 pin cpu psu. I know it works fine even on up to a ryzen 2200g it may work on better cpu and setups but i have not tested that. But what i am unsure on is the actual over all performance difference if any. And if there is and it is dependent on system load at what point does it matter and is it even motherboard dependent? I know cpu overclocking can be cut short by not powering the cpu but im talking just straight plug and play performance no tweaks. Would be a interested Tech Quickie but not sure it could hold up for an entire dedicated video unless you did a gauntlet of mobo and psu and cpu testing.

Yeah there alot of reasons to justify the value. Alot of amd fanboys will hate it but they really dont even compete for the same market ever. If amd had a physx and solid nvenc alternative that worked then yeah they could be closer compared but those features alone although not used by everyone are enough to justify prob a $100 dif also even though amd may win some games over nvidia in fps more often then not the lows are worse on amd so amd may peak much higher in some games which makes your "avg" look great but in my experience buying the cards and using them amd drops to much further lows which is way more jarring while gaming (imagine going 120mph then dropping to 30mph vs going around 100mph and maybe dropping to 60 you will still notice both but i garaute the drop of 90mph will shake you up much more than a drop of 40mph, thats what your frames do and it gets even worse for both sides in SLI/Xfire setups). Amd has its place and more often then not its for people who are not looking for the best quality just the best "bang for buck" or cheapest thing that can do just what they need. Also amd refreshes its cards way to often the 480 and 580 are just bios updates so dont think amd doesnt cost more they are just better at hiding where they keep their profit margin. Nvidia makes great hardware and amd is just maybe maybe getting back into the swing but they do not manufacture their own hardware so licensing cost for warehouse time vs actually owning a production facility make a big difference. Its like hand crafted bugatti vs production formula ford/chevy insert mass prod car company here. You get a product by amd which is not bad but in real world in every aspect it will NOT be the same quality nor offer the same features. Best way to look at buying a gfx card is do you PERSONALLY want what it offers if not look elsewhere. But besides the low low end of gfx card which amd is lucky there is a lull in performance demand in games amd does not make anything high end and imho most thier gfx cards will be outdated if not by release date but within a couple years without constant refresh. So while a rx 470 might not be worth considering today a gtx 1070 is still a solid investment at a similar price point.

Yeah you can get a good 250 gb ssd for like $30 and it will even be m.2 just at sata III speed.