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19 hours ago, IkeaGnome said:

Practically any 12th gen Intel or Zen 3 would do better in games than the 9900k. 
Her company not giving a core or thread count makes that difficult. The 9900k should handle that just fine. I doubt your current board for that would support ECC. For price reference, I just got 64gb ECC 2133 for 200 usd shipped. So you’d be in for a board and ram regardless. 
Upgrading your rig, you’d be in for CPU, motherboard. You could transfer your current RAM. With your workload a 5800x/12700k would do really well depending on prices. It basically comes down to which you could get for cheaper. They’re very close in performance. 

The 5600g route that @jaslionsuggested is going to be your cheapest, but if you wanted to upgrade your set up at the same time you could here. Do note that since that 9900kf has no iGPU, you’d need a cheap display out graphics card to go with it as well if it went to server uses. 

Awesome

Thank you for the intel and help!!!

11 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Not entirely true. The F in KF means it’s overclockable with no iGPU. 9900F also doesn’t have iGPU, but the 9900 with no letters would have iGPU 
Any intel with F has no iGPU. 

aaaaa ok good to know!!

What way would you go build wise?

5 minutes ago, jaslion said:

I mean even a current 12600k beats the 9900k. Plenty others do. For all tasks describes. Gaming wise for example a 5950x is a bit better but for rendering it's over double.

 

Either way sounds like the system only needs to have some cores. So you could go a cheap ryzen 5600g build wiht 64gb of ddr4 cl16 3000mhz+ ram and call it a day.

 

Your 9900kf doesn't have a igpu so for a server it would not be great since it would also need a graphics card added too then.

That's right only the "k" has igpu, that one must be in my kids, good catch!

So are you saying the 5600g setup for a new gaming, or for the server build and stay with what I got?

So I need to build my wife a new server at her office for a stand alone program that goes onto the server only, then all terminals in the office use a shortcut link placed onto their desktop linked to the server to log in.

The software company suggests a min of i7 8th gen (no other info) up to a Xeon QC 8th Gen, 64gb DDR4 2400 ECC.

I have a EVGA FTW Z390, with i9-9900K, 32gb running at 3200, now and am curious, I do 80% gaming, 10% streaming, 10% data / video rendering with my current setup.

Should I for the money we are about to spend upgrade to a newer Intel or AMD, or just build her a computer and leave mine be.

Not sure if anything really beats the 9900k yet, see lots of mixed reviews still. See most people say the 5950X, but then read it is a "gaming only" style chip??

Thank you for any and all help!

Budget (including currency): 

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Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

8 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Buy whatever has higher warranty and MTBF ... those have a lower chance of failure.

Even then, if it's something you care about, buy TWO hard drives, maybe from different manufacturers just in case one manufacturer had a bad day in the factory, and keep the important data on two drives.

 

A hard drive has a much higher chance of dying in the first 2-3 months of 24/7 usage ... infant mortality ... so it's best to buy a drive and keep system running as much as possible for the first 2-3 months and copying often files to the drive. 

If a drive survives that, then it's most likely gonna run 24/7 for 3-5 years... after around 3 years chances of a drive failing randomly or for no reason start to increase.

 

The average failure rate on mechanical hard drives is around 0.5-1% ...

 

HGST are often in charts when it comes to low failure rates but they tend to be expensive ... they're not sold as WD Gold and other more high end series. Seagate is not that great when it comes to reliability.

 

My personal subjective choice would be HGST, WD. Toshiba, Seagate.

 

 

See also the article : https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q2-2021/

 

But take it with "a grain of salt" - they use the hard drives more intensly than a regular user, and they run them in harder environments (higher temperatures and more vibration due to many drives inside each storage server) so their statistics may punish more some drives that are not "optimized" for NAS or datacenter (such drives often have internals which handle vibrations and 24/7 use better) 

Thank you very much for your help on this!!!!

2 minutes ago, FRD said:

For pics and videos a HDD is best over the long term. SSDs are just great because they're fast, but they have a more limited lifespan than HDDs. The TBW per SSD differs, higher ones are also more expensive. HDDs have been the best solution for storage, I suggest you also get a backup with that. Only if you need to access the videos fast for video editing or something, then an SSD can be an advantage.

So is there an advatage with WD Black vs Seagate CUDA / Fire / Ironworf vs HG vs Toshiba etc, or are all about the same?

1 minute ago, emosun said:

pretty much any drive can store files regardless of brand or model. it's one of the easier tasks a hard drive might encounter. you can more or less just shop by price at that point

ok cool I have a couple Cuda drives but then been the ironwolfs and I have a WD Black, but did not know if any one processed images better than another, or if going HDD 7200RPM is just so old, but perfected tech it no longer matters lol

in the 4TB plus, what is the better brand, and line within that brand for storing only pics and videos.

Thank you all!

3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

9900KF is a solid CPU still, we're kind of at the soft cap for CPUs at this point. Gains are much smaller than they were years ago.

 

Buy a Z390 board and enjoy the 9900KF for at least another 2-3 years easy.

Aorus and ROG still the best MOBO out?

Just now, Dedayog said:

9900KF is a solid CPU still, we're kind of at the soft cap for CPUs at this point. Gains are much smaller than they were years ago.

 

Buy a Z390 board and enjoy the 9900KF for at least another 2-3 years easy.

Awesome, seems to be the common answer for sure!!!   Thank you all for the help!

2 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

performance wise it's gonna be a sidegrade at best, not worth the extra you'll have to pay. just replace it with a decent enough board.

Seems to be the common trend answer lol.  Thank you!

1 minute ago, GER_T4IGA said:

What is the goal here? You will no matter how you answer any other questions have to decide how much money you are willing to burn for a few more FPS at most. 

 

The 9900KF is still very new and you will undoubtedly benchmark better with e.g. an 10900K but you also undoubtedly will not notice any real world differencu while using the system, so is that worth 500+ bucks to you?

Just making sure I am not throwing good money at bad choices.

IE, product X is better now and for the future like the 9900 was, so spend the money and buy it, or is the 9900 still a fighter and nothing has really came out to justify the cost upgrade and stay with it and just get a new mobo

2 minutes ago, Benji said:

What they say is pretty much bullshit because the 9900KF still performs perfectly fine, so a new motherboard it is. Why upgrade the platform? That doesn't make sense. Is it a furnace? Yes, but that wasn't a problem for you before, so just go for another motherboard. Any platform change would cost more and not net you the "amazing" performance increases that you might have heard of.

That was my thought too when I looked at the speeds everyone is getting on the new stuff.  Seemed like less than 10% for a ton of money was average

Mobo went poo last night and I have a 9900KF as of now.

The mobo for a Z390 is almost same money as a Z590

Do I stay with the 9900, or is there something intel has out that is significantly better to justify the upgrade,

or

Do we go AMD. 

Alot of things I read say the 5600X in most cases, will smack around a intel??? 

I am a ride or die intel guy so I favor them out of the gate, as that is what I have used for gaming since 2005, but am open since money is all of our friends, even more now as I get older HAHA

Not looking to spend 800+ on a CPU!

Thank you all for your help!

47 minutes ago, The Flying Sloth said:

You should be looking for (at least one if not multiple) large diaphragm condenser microphones. This is extremely easy to achieve with LDCs

take a look at the guide in my sig for more information.

 

 

GOT IT, thank you for the help there!!!

So both of the AT ones you talk about are XLR hook ups, and that are jack style or USB that you would recommend?

36 minutes ago, adarw said:

im sorry but why? like that might be too sensitive 

So my son stream with his sister and friends sometimes in the same room. With the mic from the C920 it worked great!!!!

We moved him to a DSLR and a external mic and have tried Razor, CMTECK, Moukey, Tonor and all noise cancel past about 1-2 feet, even though they claim otherwise.

I got the CMTECK to pick up the voices 80% of the time, but the music in the background 0%

What microphone do you guys recommend that clearly will pick up music, people, all audio of any kind within a 10 foot radius and not cancel out whatever it decides

21 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Yah, at 50x50 then no need for AX. Just stick with cheaper AC stuff.

Thanks for the help!

12 minutes ago, Lurick said:

If you absolutely need/want an AX wifi card then

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kCzFf7/asus-pce-ax58bt-pcie-x1-wi-fi-adapter-pce-ax58bt

 

Otherwise:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/X9rcCJ/asus-pce-ac55bt-none-wi-fi-adapter-pce-ac55bt

or

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTdqqs/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di

ok cool, so with that router I have a dedicated 50x50 line. In your opinion, will I ever hit the ax speed or is the cheaper way all good?

2 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Wireless performance is completely dependent on your setup/router, distance, interference, congestion, number of devices, etc. and there is no "one best" answer.

I run the ROG AX11000 router, distance is about 20 ft, 1 wall.

I have seen some reviews of ones getting hot and shutting down, some not near as fast as others etc.

Thanks!

I already know why would I run wifi for gaming.

That said which card has been being used with the best results please and TIA

4 minutes ago, MrBrightSyde said:

The Antec PSU is only sold through third party sellers both on Newegg and Amazon (cheaper on Amazon too).

The beQuiet! PSU is being sold by beQuiet! themselves on Newegg.

So it's up to you. If you trust the third party sellers, go ahead and buy it.

You think Rosewill there own brand is worth anything.  Not that I need a 1200 PSU but its on sale at 1/2 off

SO in the High End you have Antec HCP Platniums and next level down you have BeQuiet Strait Power / dark power.

Right now on Newegg the Antex is cheaper than the BeQuiet so should I assume that this model is still the case?

https://www.newegg.com/p/1HU-0018-002C7?Description=high current pro&cm_re=high_current_pro-_-9SIA25V9CX2238-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/p/1HU-004H-00042

Thanks

42 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Regular evga card or an fe. 

Dont care much for rated clocks as they will boost higher and the difference won’t need my and substantial frames. 

Looking at true EVGA black or maybe a FTW

1 minute ago, MrBrightSyde said:

Keep your current monitor

 

Thanks   That Alienware you told me to look at is the exact one I was looking at!