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Shiftstealth

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  1. For what its worth it'll fit in the socket, but if its an HP,Acer, or Dell it might not support it. Did you order the board from amazon, or is it a pre-built?
  2. The i7 2600K should use the EXACT same socket as an i5-2400. Just make sure it isn't an OEM motherboard like Dell that has a whitelist for CPU's it supports. Do you know the motherboard model? You could download CPU-Z to provide it so we can verify support.
  3. Supposedly Intel 10nm is Q4 2019, and thats for consumer grade products. Probably be longer than that for larger server chips as is typically the case. So this isn't really wrong. I don't see what the point of a 12-16 Core 3700X would be though. I don't know how many years it'd be until we utilize all those cores. I own a 2700X, Please don't poop on me.
  4. The GTX 960 is a good call. You could probably find an i7 2600K for about $50 USD, or thats what i've seen them for.
  5. SOC voltage you'll want to be really careful. I tried i think 1.25v SOC and degraded my 1700X to the point that 2133Mhz RAM wasn't stable anymore. I'd honestly leave SOC at stock. It is mostly for RAM speeds anyways.
  6. With your board being B350 i wouldn't use LLC. I'm not an expert, but from what i've heard it is a little harder on the VRM's rather than letting the vDroop do its thing. With the VRM's on B350 boards being lackluster i would be careful.
  7. Have you downloaded HWINFO64, and verified you aren't receiving any WHEA errors? That would be the first indicator that your overclock is not stable. I would highly recommend doing that. If you get a few WHEA errors they were correctable, and probably explain your low scores being the result of some failed calculations which indicate that the overclock isn't stable. If you aren't receiving WHEA errors, and you see your CPU downclock during the 350 score run i'd recommend dialing back your LLC, or Vcore. With it being a B350 board, and not an X370 your VRM's might not be up to the task.
  8. Basically what Street said. Intel has a steep advantage over AMD in a few games, but not in the games you mentioned really. (CSGO favors intel, but its already over 200 FPS anyways). If you want to stream you should 100% look at the R5 2600. The i5 8400 might do OK streaming, but the 2600 will drop less frames in the long run.
  9. Some games cap at 200FPS, also Rivatuner & other programs can enforce an FPS cap. Be sure to check those.
  10. Oh yeah, FreeSync Vs G-Sync yeah. I thought you meant omitting both. I can certainly tell a difference when there is no version of it. FWIW i'm fairly certain the G-sync laptops actually use Freesync.
  11. I think you should state that the Free-sync, G-sync portion is your opinion. Lots of people such as myself have a hard time playing games without it anymore.
  12. 1.3v isn't really the "max" for 1151. Its just usually where you see people stop on 1151 because they are using TIM, not Solder so unless you delid you run into temp problems. The 3930K is soldered so you'd be fine up to at least 1.35v, but i have no doubt in my mind that 1.325v is 110% safe to try for 4.3Ghz. Many people abused their 2600k's @1.4v for years. I think 1.325v is certainly safe.
  13. Just to add, 1.3v isn't anywhere close to damaging that X79, or 3930K. You'd have to hit 1.4v before even worrying about approaching that. Honestly, you could try 1.325v + 4.3Ghz. FWIW the 3930K scores around 1050 in R15, and the 8700k at stock scores about 1400. So the 8700k is a little faster, but it's because of the frequency with the 8700K hitting 4.3Ghz on all 12 threads at stock. If you can close the frequency gap the 3930K won't be as much as a deficit. Also take into account that you're playing @1080P. Not a lot of people buy a 1080 Ti to play at 1080P anymore. That is more of a higher resolution GPU.
  14. I would still go 2600 as it is basically guaranteed to hit 4.0Ghz, where the 1600 would not. Plus RAM compatibility should be a lot better. But as i said though, it won't be hitting 4.5Ghz.
  15. Whats your 4790K clocked at? If it is stock then it might be bottlenecking you. An overclock would help you just as much as upgrading at that point.
  16. Take it from an AMD supporter. The 2600, or 2600X you buy will not hit 4.5Ghz. There is a leak that it took 1.679v to hit 4.5Ghz. They did that on a custom loop, but it obviously is too high for 24/7 unless you want to go through a chip a month. The average samples are 1.35v+ for 4.2, and 1.46v for 4.3. It could be worse for the 2600 as the non-x parts are binned lower. AMD has gotten very good at binning over the years all the way back to the Phenom 9500 (My first AMD CPU).
  17. I'm with everyone else here. I don't see a point in Threadripper. I just don't see a reason people would need THAT MANY PCIE lanes. Sure they'd be nice to have, but the majority of PCIE lanes are taken by the GPU, and with the way things are going you won't be running 2 as it probably won't even be supported any longer soon. So really that leaves M.2. SSD's taking up those lanes with a single GPU. As you do content creation i'd imagine you'd run out of SATA ports before PCIE lanes. Furthermore the 1920X lacks gaming performance. Guessing off the top of my head its like 10% slower than the 1800X in gaming. And some new benchmarks just surfaced showing that the 2700X is 10% faster than the 1800X in gaming because of the cache changes, and at the same frequencies. Add in the extra clock speed on the 2700X and you're looking at losing 25% gaming performance in some scenarios to the 1920X which i don't think is worth it. You said you're looking to build a platform for the next 5-7 years. AM4 and TR4 will be supported until DDR5. To add to that there should be a 12 Core AM4 variant CPU next year. This is extrapolated from the 48 Core Epyc chip that has had slides shown regarding. If Epyc uses 4 dies then to get 48 cores it would need a 12 Core die. Since they are making Ryzen for scalability you'd have to assume that it is going to be a 12 Core die that they use in AM4, TR4, and Epyc. So if you decide in a years time that 8 cores isn't doing it, just go for the 12 Core AM4 variant. This i believe is the platform longevity that you are looking for. Regarding streaming, i think the money you save from not going Threadripper if you find your PC isn't strong enough that money difference could either buy you the 12 core model next year, or a whole separate Ryzen streaming PC. The latter of which would be the best path based on what i've heard. The 2700X is only $329, and compared to the $700 for the 1920X. Plus the motherboard would be at least $100 cheaper if you went Crosshair VII($279) instead of an X399 board @ $399 or so. That $450 or so would be enough to buy the 12 core next year if you need it, or even kick in an extra $150 and build a dedicated R5 2600 streaming PC. All signs point to 2700X IMO.
  18. Looking at the review it has this in it looks like it touches on that at the end. The pixel density of the 32" is the same as a 24" 1080P screen. I, personally don't like that pixel density, and prefer a slightly higher density, but it is acceptable for sure. I feel like we could use some more information to help you make an informed decision though. While that 32" 1440P panel may fit the recommenders needs, it may not fit yours. Do you game? What games do you play? What size is your monitor now? Do you have the desk space for that 32"? Would you be sitting to close to the 32"? Try sitting closer to your TV, because 32" on a desk is really big.
  19. I would 100% look into purchasing a monitor with a higher refresh rate. I've tried the 4k 60hz train a few times, and even though i had 60 FPS, and the clarity, gaming just wasn't as enjoyable. The way i look at it is i'm playing on a moving picture, and there's more to the display than the static image (4k). If the motion isn't clear then i don't see why it'd matter if the static image is clear. I have a Dell S2417DG, and i have yet to find a monitor better than it. It can easily be found for $400 dollars now-a-days, and i don't think it will get much cheaper. Really $200 of that $400 price tag is going to NVidia for the G-Sync module, so that leaves $200 for the panel and other costs. There isn't really a lot of flex there. Some other things might get cheaper such as the 27" IPS 1440P 144Hz monitors as those won't be top of the line anymore, but i don't see those going below $500 again due to G-Sync eating roughly $200 of the MSRP. Trying to figure out where you may reside so that i can advise you on where to browse, i noticed your power plug is for the US. I would advise going to your largest Best Buy locally. (We have about 6 in Pittsburgh, but only 1 has a bunch of Dell/Gaming Displays.) You can even look for product availability online to see which one may have a display. I would look for the S2417DG availability at every Best Buy locally from their webpage. Then i'd go there just to look at their displays. This will give you the ability to make your own informed decision on if 144Hz+ is worth it over 4K. (I think 1440P 144Hz is the sweetspot. It has clarity in static images over 1080P, and maintains a resolution that is still easy enough to drive at 144Hz) As alluded to earlier prices won't change much due to G-Sync. At the end of the day those modules cost about $200 ea because they have to buy them from Nvidia. So really those $400 dollar G-Sync monitors are actually $200 dollar monitors with a $200 dollar G-Sync module. Not a whole lot of wiggle room to still include a premium panel that most of them have.
  20. Just because you like 4K @ 60Hz doesn't mean that OP will like it. It looks like hes looking for a 144Hz display of which there currently aren't any 4K ones. It's fantastic that you found something you like, but it doesn't appear to be what hes looking for. @thesonyuh I would look at either the Dell S2417DG, or S2716DGR. They're both minimalistic monitors with fantastic features. If you can overlook the fact that they're TN, they are fantastic. I ran IPS/VA panels for the better part of the past 4 years, and expected to hate my S2417DG. I even recently tried to go 3440x1440 VA 100Hz, but still couldn't give up my S2417DG. They are very affordable since they are TN, and the colors are still well within reason. They also have G-Sync within your budget which should be a plus. I personally like the 24 inch since the PPI is higher, and really you get used to using the size eventually anyways, but as you are looking for a 27" the S2716DGR should work just fine. I would also expect this to be available in your region. Amazon link here even though you can't order from it: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Gaming-S2716DGR-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B0149QBOF0
  21. I don't think anyone is actually concerned about the silicon. The fans, which have actual bearings wear out. You have to replace car bearings eventually too right? A fair amount of video cards combat this now by idling with fans off at higher idle temps, than to wear down fan bearings and receive RMA's.
  22. Zen 2 (2019) is rumored to have a 48 Core 96 Thread Epyc chip. What does this mean for you? The Epyc chip runs 4 of the Ryzen series dies in a MCM configuration. So you can extrapolate from that information that the Ryzen 3000 series should have a 12 Core 24 thread model coming out on 7nm(AM4), because 48 divided by 4 is 12. Clockspeeds on 7nm are also rumored by GloFo to hit up to 5Ghz compared to the 4.35Ghz for Zen+. That being said a 4.3Ghz 6 Core 12 Thread CPU is no joke. I suspect it should last a while. Even if it doesn't last 5 years you would still be able to slap in a Ryzen 3000 Series CPU in 4 years with the same MOBO, and RAM. The decision is yours, but i don't feel that you can make a bad one here.
  23. "The thermal design power (TDP), sometimes called thermal design point, is the maximum amount of heat generated by a computer chip or component" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_design_power You're looking at a bit more heat coming out of the 2700x opposed to the CPU you currently have. That is why you by coolers rated for the TDP of CPU's. Here you can see in the title this CPU cooler supports 500W+ TDP: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835214081 Thus it has the potential to handle 500W of heat. Some other cheaper coolers may not handle that much heat. That being said 105W is only a bit more than average this day in age. The Pentium 4 CPU's were 100W if i recall, and X99 chips ran up to 140W (5820K). If you have any aftermarket cooler that costed more than $40 then it will be able to handle 105W TDP.
  24. A GTX 1050 Ti has 768 cores like the 650 Ti, but the GTX 1050 Ti is clocked 50% higher (about 1400 Mhz to about 900Mhz respecitvely) You'd see at minimum a 50% increase in FPS based on clock speed alone. That isn't even including the boost 3.0 Boost Clocks. My 1080 Ti boost is quoted at 1721Mhz or so, but it actually boosts all the way to 1925 Mhz or so. So you'd probably see even higher clocks than that.
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