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I didn't think 50$+ was worth it. and was trying to get the best for around 1000$.

PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU Cooler Noctua NH-C14S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler $74.90 @ Amazon CPU Cooler Noctua NH-L12S 55.44 CFM CPU Cooler $49.90 @ Amazon CPU Cooler Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler $48.89 @ OutletPC CPU Cooler Scythe Ninja 5 43.03 CFM CPU Cooler $59.99 @ Amazon CPU Cooler Scythe Big Shuriken 3 50.79 CFM CPU Cooler $46.89 @ OutletPC CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12A 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler $99.90 @ Amazon Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $380.47 Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-06 18:59 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.79 @ OutletPC Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $94.89 @ OutletPC Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $76.99 @ Newegg Storage Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $109.98 @ Amazon Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card $413.98 @ Newegg Case Silverstone RL06 ATX Mid Tower Case $91.98 @ Newegg Power Supply EVGA GD (2019) 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $50.98 @ Newegg Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total (before mail-in rebates) $1058.59 Mail-in rebates -$25.00 Total $1033.59 Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-06 18:54 EDT-0400 Part Li

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/comments/97mi5s/zguides_headphones/ I am not really sure of your budget...or your priorities...but here are amazingly detailed reviews.... on the cheaper side. https://www.amazon.com/Superlux-HD668B-Dynamic-Semi-Open-Headphones/dp/B003JOETX8 $40 paired with a 40$ attach mic

I was saying after cloning the install.....that you would transfer with robocopy Windows Command the programs/games that you wanted onto another drive. Though IF you want fresh only windows.....why would you not just install a new windows. The whole reason to clone is not having to re-install anything or mess with any settings at all(saves me about a month in time....though others a week)....and giving you a perfect backup/double of your install.

PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.79 @ OutletPC Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $79.89 @ OutletPC Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $38.99 @ Amazon Storage TCSunBow X3 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $28.99 @ Amazon Video Card ASRock Radeon RX 570 8 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card $139.99 @ Newegg Case DIYPC Zondda ATX Mid Tower Case $40.96 @ Newegg Power Supply EVGA GD (2019) 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $55.98 @ Newegg Monitor Acer R240HY bidx 23.8" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor $99.98 @ Newegg Business Custom Monoprice Modern Retro Over Ear Headphones (116150) $29.99 @ Amazon Custom accessories $25.00 Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total (before mail-in rebates) $759.56 Mail-in rebates -$25.00 Total $734.56 Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-30 18:30 EDT-0400 PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor $139.89 @ OutletPC Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $79.89 @ OutletPC Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $74.99 @ Newegg Storage Sabrent Rocket 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $59.98 @ Amazon Case DIYPC Zondda ATX Mid Tower Case $40.96 @ Newegg Power Supply EVGA GD (2019) 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $55.98 @ Newegg Monitor Acer R240HY bidx 23.8" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor $99.98 @ Newegg Business Custom Monoprice Modern Retro Over Ear Headphones (116150) $29.99 @ Amazon Custom accessories $25.00 Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total (before mail-in rebates) $631.66 Mail-in rebates -$25.00 Total $606.66 Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-30 18:25 EDT-0400 I would try for the 750$ since the longevity value would be much higher. but the second build is near your 600$ Some cheap used parts....Mainly the Case and maybe...maybe gpu would be an idea to check if your in a good area for it.. otherwise....Cpu/Mb/Ram combos can be decent as well. depending on your area. I would argue the cause of buying new otherwise . Though the "buy a dell. throw a gpu in it. and pair with a 50$ used monitor and $75-120 gpu" is a definite option if you can deal with any troubleshooting....though a bit lower than your budget....

hey. thank you scrumruggin.

coolzz....also.......TRAINS!!!!!!!! ...also....I have to admit....if I had an extra HDD/SSD big enough...I was going to attempt to move a clone of Windows with the robocopy...and create a junction with mklink....and test it....supposedly the junction is at an extremely low level...so.....maybe could just move the OS/Windows??? I actually just realized that because I cloned my sisters 500gb into a 1tb...and i upgraded my storage from 2tb to 2x4tb(redundant = raid 1) I have a 500gb HDD with an OS and a blank 2tb HDD I will test this as soon as I have a day off from work.

I would definitely check the physical NVME that you have to make sure you know the size compatible. and know the 'Key' https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GCL6BR4 https://www.adorama.com/ctmx5001tbm2.html?utm_source=rflaid912925 I personally do notice a difference with 500mb/s(sata) compared with 1500 or 3500(NVME)....but I am a Heavy Power User

it really depends on the specific game......or program. I bought 16gb of RAM and 4+gb of VRAM years before they were recommended because they bottle necked my specific games/workload. I also have an 8 core, which i need for my multi-tasking.....while everyone was saying 4 core is fine.... I also leave my comp on for weeks/months on end...and thus boot times don't matter to me...However...my modded games that take 25 seconds on each load screen....taking that down to under 10 with a SSD for my gaming library...fixed that 'bottleneck' ...its a little hard to explain in English...because being a trade language its not good with concepts. it just really depends......These new builders just want to know if they are leaving performance on the table with some of the pairings they go with...generally speaking.

I was using it as an example....and most people actually don't understand bottlenecking at all....which is why Linus and co talk about it........if everyone knew...then they wouldn't of made the videos... the tech quickie has over 500k views...of Everyone....that didn't know.... and since op didn't know that the 8700k wouldn't bottleneck the 2060....then they I can guess...that they don't know...

?? Bottle-necking... is the concept of paying for performance/experience and having a section/part holding you back from the best experience that all of your hardware is truly capable of. Like having a 720p monitor with a 2080Ti or paying for a 500$+ video card...while using built-in monitor speakers. instead of headset/decent speakers you are wasting your money on enhancing the experience...in an extremely inefficient way. and that is lacking.... again...like buying a 1000 horsepower car......for Hawaii.......or putting 100$ tires on it.......

PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $195.89 @ OutletPC Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $84.89 @ OutletPC Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $89.99 @ Newegg Storage Inland Premium 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $119.99 @ Amazon Storage Toshiba X300 5 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $109.89 @ OutletPC Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card $419.99 @ Amazon Case Silverstone RL06 ATX Mid Tower Case $91.98 @ Newegg Power Supply BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $75.99 @ SuperBiiz Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total (before mail-in rebates) $1203.61 Mail-in rebates -$15.00 Total $1188.61 Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-25 03:07 EDT-0400 (plus headset/speakers and external DAC+AMP) Bottle-necking is a hard subject.......matching price/perf for all your parts is an important step... buying a 1500$+ comp and not having a dedicated sound solution is a 'bottleneck' for your experience of the build's capabilities. The above build is matched together for price/perf of the current market you could swap to a 2080Ti and even if you are gonna OC the Higher end i7 or i9 you are going to see very similar gaming performance.

wow...canada is very limited for being next door to the US for your entire southern border..... https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=81542 https://www.shopbot.ca I didn't find anything....

I listed both of those RAM kits....the Delta having RGB and cheaper than the corsair... and the 3600 speed RAM being best/easy optimal for ryzen 3rd gen...while very similar in cost to the corsair.

I saw that you were sold out of 5700xt aftermarket....which sucks...I recommend the Sapphire pulse to all those who have it available.(it is available currently in the US) So far...the only aftermarket one I don't recommend is the MSI Evoke The Tomahawk is another great board that I have recommended(the deals currently on the A-Pro are generally a pretty good savings....currently.). VRM-wise(cpu power) both are really good choices.. However...if spending more for the Tomahawk..i generally recommend paying a little bit more for the x470 MSI gaming plus...for the extra NVME slot. Though if that doesn't add any value...keep with the Tomahawk.

I also checked out Scorptec. close to my build is around $1925.00

....okay....when did you try them? times change...the $200 r5 3600 plays games with the best of them...though the 9900k OC slightly beats it out.... for a MASSIVE premium. again...if you care for price/perf For GAMING...you will not spend your entire budget..if you prioritize differently(Streaming/Graphics editing/VMs)..then obviously you can upgrade the Cpu to a 3700x and for a Premium...can go to 2080$uper or Ti In your market...once you pass about 2k$ you have exponential Diminishing Returns.

PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $195.89 @ OutletPC Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $84.89 @ OutletPC Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $89.99 @ Newegg Storage Inland Premium 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $119.99 @ Amazon Storage Toshiba X300 5 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $109.89 @ OutletPC Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card $419.99 @ Amazon Case Silverstone RL06 ATX Mid Tower Case $91.98 @ Newegg Power Supply BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $75.99 @ SuperBiiz Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total (before mail-in rebates) $1203.61 Mail-in rebates -$15.00 Total $1188.61 Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-25 02:11 EDT-0400 you either need a mb that is compatible out-of-the-box....or...... deal with AMD boot kit thing... or BIOS Flash....only need a USB thumb-drive. https://premiumbuilds.com/motherboards/list-of-motherboards-with-usb-bios-flashback/

Well...it does depend on what you are doing...If just gaming...and you don't WANT to spend your entire budget... For strict Price/Perf... PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $312.00 @ Shopping Express Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $140.00 @ Shopping Express Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $182.53 @ Newegg Australia Storage Crucial MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $169.00 @ PC Byte Storage Western Digital Red 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $165.00 @ Shopping Express Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 8 GB PULSE Video Card $699.00 @ Amazon Australia Case Silverstone RL06 ATX Mid Tower Case $99.00 @ Scorptec Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $96.90 @ Shopping Express Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $1863.43 Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-25 16:05 AEST+1000 For audio...decent AMP/DAC combos for a decent price(prices are in US so take as an example.) Syba Sonic $42 Sabaj D3 $110 Topping NX 4 $160 Topping DX PRo $220 https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/comments/97mi5s/zguides_headphones/ He is sound expert. here is another audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php and here are cpu heatsinks...though unless you OC you probably are not gonna see any price/performance from this... http://www.frostytech.com/top5_liquid_heatsinks.cfm They have air coolers as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/comments/97mi5s/zguides_headphones/ He is z-review on youtube. also... audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php If BeyerDynamic I would go with the 880 https://www.amazon.com/BeyerDynamic-Premium-Special-Version-717258/dp/B01MXR65M6 hopefully you have already paired it with an external DAC/AMP decent combo DAC+AMP decent price Syba Sonic $42 Sabaj D3 $110 Topping NX4 $160 Topping DX Pro $220

alternatives ASRock B450M/AC (Though I don't like AsRock....this is a decent board at a good price and has WIFI....I also don't like onboard Wifi...and go with USB dongles) PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $124.99 @ Newegg Canada Memory Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $94.99 @ Newegg Canada Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $106.99 @ Newegg Canada Storage Toshiba X300 5 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $166.87 @ Amazon Canada Video Card XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card $519.99 @ Memory Express Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $1013.83 Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-25 01:37 EDT-0400 oops...edited wrong post...

The gaming pro carbon is also very good mb. and if you want the added features its great. I would generally get 3600 RAM...and I don't know your price for your RAM so will just say...that if it is similar in price...go with faster...though.....the 2600x will only see a little of faster than 3000+ RAM....the 3600/3800 speed is more for GEN 3 ryzen. 5tb for close to same price of other 4tb the 5700xt sapphire pulse is in stock...but I am US so...I guess I should check this stuff for canada

PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $84.89 @ OutletPC Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $89.99 @ Newegg Storage Toshiba X300 5 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $109.89 @ OutletPC Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card $419.99 @ Amazon Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total (before mail-in rebates) $719.76 Mail-in rebates -$15.00 Total $704.76 Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-25 01:22 EDT-0400