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Posting a follow up to my previous statement on power consumption when it comes to air or liquid cooling. Doing a little more research into the matter, it seems fans on average use about 1.8W of power on average, where is The most likely pump I'd be using uses 18W. A solid 10x more power. So the question then comes, would the Power Leakage, and additional power consumption from hotter units, in a tightly packed air cool environment, cause a significant enough increase? I mean we're looking at 7.2W vs 21.6W. I also want to mention the RGB, that is on every single GPU fan set up by default. Looking into power consumption on that, it seems typically (depending on controller used) RGB uses 1.6 to 2 watts, and I'm pretty sure there isn't a foot of RGB on any GPU fan...... I hope there isn't a foot of RGB on them. Edit: Extra parts of interest I've come across, that should be noted (yay power research while packing x.x) So while that 1.6 to 2 watts is the average based on which controller use, some fans can use a good bit more power upwards to 6, even 8 watts. While I fully expect Noctua to be on the lower end of the power consumption, I don't have that kind of faith in GPU fans, but I also don't expect them to be up at 6 watts per fan. This does close the power gap between air and liquid quiet a bit. Then for liquid I would end up using Be Quiet!'s Silent Wings 3, which specifically state they use a lower than normal power consumption. This shortens the gap quiet a bit between the two options. This means it really does come down to power draw under lower temps.

I'm not set on Intel. I just wasn't sure which one had the better performance. As stated that's the wish machine, not what I'll ultimately have to go with. As for the air vs liquid debate. Partly to open up a little more space inside the case (mostly on the gpu side), but also because I already have over half the supplies I need for liquid from a previous project, that never got off the ground. So it's just kind of a "why not?" thing on that front. Though I suppose there is possible arguments on both side as to weather it would use more or less power. At minimum default air cooling would have 4 fans to power the unit, that plus any excess heat from it being an extremely tight case (though with lots of possible airways, this would mean an increase in heat which would cause extra power leakage (if I'm understanding that side of the equation correctly) though shouldn't be a noticeable amount. So it all comes down to the 4 fans and extra RGB that's on almost every single video card, vs. 2 Fans and a pump on power, with a minor performance boost on the water cooling side, though most like not an important one, except maybe with the 3070 and 3070ti hitting that 120fps at 4k, for the rare times I want to do that. Edit: It is also technically possible to reduce the liquid loop down to a single 120mm radiator. Though that's usually not recommended for cooling 2 units.

Budget (including currency): USD - no budget set Country: United States Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Cyberpunk, Modded Skyrim, Modded Fallout 4, and numerous others to count. Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Before I get into my current parts selection I feel I need to explain my situation. Do to budget restraints I'm moving into a small RV, which has a 50amp power connection. It will be stationary and permanently connected to power. However, after all the arrangements were done and setup, I got offered a new job. So yea that budget problem isn't a problem anymore, but I'm still moving into the RV. So I'm wanting to build something that'll allow me to continue doing, somewhat, hardcore gaming and enjoying all the advantages of modern tech, but won't be to much draw on the power. Parts: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wQzZYg These parts are simply my dream build to put in there, I fully expect to swap everything out. The SSDs are all place holders, just to remind myself exactly how many the motherboard can handle. As for the Video Card, I'm wanting that to be either a RTX 3080, 3080ti, or 3090. Though it should be noted if I can get better power use out of a 3070 or 3070ti, then that's going to be the best option. It should also be noted that I do intend to liquid cool the machine, and if possible I would love to be able to run 4k at 120fps (I do have a TV that can handle that, that will be in the RV), however the majority of the time I will be using a 1440p 144fps monitor. Case: https://www.velkase.com/products/velka-7 For now I've chosen the Velka-7, but if the 3070 is the better option this will get changed to a Velka-5. Do to the living situation, space is a premium. So the smaller the case the better. I will be making modifications to the case, and most of the tubing will end up being run externally, as will the radiator(s), and probably the reservoir. Right now I'm just planning out the project, I will probably actually build it later this year, possibly early next year. Depending on what life throws my way. Any advice, and/or recommendations, on what would be better for my needs would be greatly appreciated.

@beyonddc See that was my original thought, but my younger brother doesn't want that. He's not exactly a tech, but he's the kind of person that once we gets an idea in his head how things should be he won't listen to anything that says otherwise. In this case the idea is "Wireless Bridges aren't stable, you should set the house up in a mesh network".... As the one that will be running and doing everything in the network, I flat out told him no to the mesh network (I don't think he even understands what it is or how it works), but I couldn't get him to change his mind about the wireless bridge. Since it is "his" apartment, all I could convince him to do was just take me running a cat6 from the house to the apartment. Which is what lead to these very questions.

We're looking at about 2100 sqft for the main house, plus an addition 450 sqft for the apartment. Privacy isn't a big issue for now, not sure what the future is gonna hold though. (like I said oldest kid is 5) I'm not sure what type of set up the neighbors will have, I've only been out to the house to check it out once. I'll look into the the wifi access points and switches, that actually maybe my best bet... Not sure why I didn't think about it.

Hello, so I need help determining the best approach to a complicated home network. See My Mother, Younger Brother, his wife and 2 children, and myself are all going in together on a home (times are pretty tough). The place we're looking at getting has a main house with two large bedrooms upstairs, then it has a separate garage attached to a full functioning apartment. My brother and his family are taking the apartment, my mother is getting one large room, and I'm getting the other. So I'm trying figure out how we're going to set up the network, as I'm sure the cable company would charge us extra to have a second modem. What we're wanting to do is dig a hole and run a pipe with a cable through it from the main house to the apartment, it's not a particularly long distant so we're not concerned about signal degradation. While I'm no stranger to working on networks, did it for the Navy for 5 years, it's been almost 6 years since I've last considered doing something like this. I'm hoping someone could give me advice on what's the best equipment to use for this project, and maybe a link to a solid tutorial. Needs: Advice on the best Modem for this (the provider says they offer 1gb service, unlimited data) Advice on the best routers to use A good tutorial My brother is a light internet user, but he does need a stable connection for internet calling. His wife, is also a light user The kids are still too young for the internet, the oldest being 5 They do however stream TV shows with multiple devices My mother is also a light user, though she does also stream TV shows I am, what is considered, a hardcore gamer. Known to play my fair share of MMOs A heavy internet user And have, apparently, "Forced" Comcast to put restriction on my account...... multiple times...... They'll generally remove the restriction if I call asking why my internet is slow when I'm paying for the higher end service >.> So yea those are the needs of all parties involved. The idea right now is that we're going to run from the modem to the router (router #1) in the main house, then from there we'll run to the second router (router #2) in the apartment. Though I'm not 100% certain this is the best approach. Current I have: Modem: Motorola SURFboard SB6141 Router: Netgear Nighthawk R7000 Those are both mine, to my knowledge my brother does not own a router or modem.

Update: No new pictures this month. The motherboard and reservoir have been ordered and are on their way. I might post pictures of them, but probably not. So originally I was planning on getting the new front panel 3D printed this month, however that's been pushed back might try for next month. Though August would probably be a better bet. I am moving, and with the move it looks like I'm gonna get a real workshop, so yay. Now for the bad news. I had the case in the living room one day, and it got particularly hot. This caused the adhesive for the mounting to melt, and it stopped holding the side radiator. Luckily it came off cleanly, so there wasn't a real mess to clean up, but I am now looking for a better solution to mounting that radiator now. Maybe using a hot glue gun or something.

Free speech is great and all guys, but the people saying he shouldn't have been fired for what he said, your wrong. Here's a nice fact about free speech, it comes at a cost. Yes you have the right to speak your mind and say whatever you want, and are completely protected from the government in doing so. However, that freedom comes with consequences, and it's entirely on you to deal with the consequences of your actions. If you are a known employee of a company, then you are automatically a representative of that company. Everything you say represents that company, and thus if you say something horrible or dumb that the company is not ok with well... You have Freedom of Speech, thus you have the freedom to deal with the consequences of your speech. Getting fired is one of those consequences, having someone hate you is another one of those consequences. However, waiting til someone dies to say this is just cowardly, and defending such a person is just as bad. That is my opinion. I hope for the best for TB's family. Edit: Realized, I should make this clear. I am a whole hearten defender of Freedom of Speech, and Open Information. Just felt it should be made clear, I am not saying it's a bad thing, it's really not. Just that, people need to start understanding exactly what they're getting into.

Update: I have mounted the Radiators. I still need to see the custom plastics and acrylics people, about some cutting. I kind of like the idea of mounting the radiators inside of the housing for the fans, and setting the fans to pull... Would make the radiators super easy to clean that way. Though more importantly I have to talk to them about cutting out 3.5" area of the front I/O, in order to fit the new front I/O. If they can't, then my only other option is to have an entirely new front I/O made, most likely 3D printed. Though I do admit that would probably make things much easier on me.

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