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This is news to me, does Valve just not send hardware to Canada? Whatever the reason, I'm sorry eh.

@SpaceGhostC2C yes, the perplexing move by intel though is that coffee lake requires a new 370 series mobo, so anyone interested will kind of be building from scratch. Plus they've already got the new 10nm CPUs on the horizon, so these chips aren't backwards compatible and the mobos won't be upgradeable.

yes, that's what I was remembering. Comparing the 8350k to the 8400, you can boost the i5 to 4Ghz single clock, get 6 cores/threads, 3mb more cache, and support for 2666 RAM over 2400. That seems like a pretty good deal for $14 difference. I'm really interested in coffee lake, because I will be upgrading from sandy bridge, so I'm looking for the best bang for my buck.

arn't the i3 k series a joke? why buy an unlocked i3 when you could buy a regular i5? imo, you should wait for 10nm if you can. like others have posted, in a few weeks you will be able to buy an i7 for your current mobo for the price of an 8th gen i3 + 370 mobo.