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5 minutes ago, bgibbz said:

That doesnt change my argument. Nvidia has ran itself better as a business. They have done a much better job marketing, and regardless of physical hardware innovation, they have created a whole host of software including Geforce experience, Shadow play, and countless in game rendering settings. I have nothing against AMD, in fact, I very much want them to succeed, but it is impossible to ignore there shortcomings over the past few years.

 

AMD has historically only held about 30-40% of the market share. This number plummeted when they failed to release a competitor to the GTX 900 series GPUs for almost a year. Since then, there top end GPUs have all been dual GPUs which are less preferable for a variety of reasons. In addition, AMD may have had better products, but they have struggled in timeliness. GPU upgrades are very cyclical; people tend to update upgrade there products when the next generation drops. When Nvidia GPUs have consistently released months prior to AMD GPUs, people are more likely to upgrade to Nvidia products rather than waiting.  

Actually AMD 6-9 years ago were releasing their GPUs faster than NVIDIA's ones and they were significantly better at a lower price. But I wouldn't need to mention this if you would've actually watched the video

1 minute ago, AresKrieger said:

Other videos, amd

You know that's kind of a weak argument and he explains why he posts videos only AMD related at the moment here:

And by the way, he also explains in this video why Vega will likely fail, if anyone is interested.

1 minute ago, CostcoSamples said:

It's a very big topic and can't be easily summed up in a forum post.  Everybody wants to think it's because of XYZ factor, but there's a lot more going on that we wouldn't know about.  A few off the top of my head:

 

- Differences in marketing strategie.  At times AMD, had superior products which sold significantly fewer than Nvidia.

- Gains made by Nvidia many years ago pushed them ahead, giving more capital available for R&D, making it easy to remain ahead and hard for AMD to catch up.

- GPU mining for crypto currencies skewed markets by creating short term shortages for gamers.

- Strategic planning played out very differently for AMD vs Nvidia.

- Legal crap such as licensing, patents, etc.

 

Very true, the first 2 lines are explained in the video aswell.

12 minutes ago, AresKrieger said:

Pretty sure this topic with that exact video has been posted before, regardless of what happened prior to the last couple generations they currently are lower end right now and are behind in the more profitable higher end market (per GPU), thus nothing else really matters until they step it up

 

Oh yeah and the person who made that video is a fanboy as they come, using steam for his numbers is idiotic use sales figures they're public

How do you know he's a fanboy? And fanboy of what exactly?

9 minutes ago, bgibbz said:

To back it up with data, NVidia still has 70% of the market share on discrete graphics, and an even higher percent of proceeds (src). Regardless of mid end, high end, or whatever, AMD is still a ways behind, and they have yet to even contest Nvidia's flagship GPUs that have been released for over 6 months. 

The bad thing is that we are now stuck with GPU's over 600 dollars. If there will be no competition you can say bye bye to the PC master gaming industry.

18 minutes ago, bgibbz said:

I will just say that this post is nothing new. People claim to have solved a complex analytical issue by watching some random youtube video. Odds are, the youtube video is no different than the posts on this topic; people with little data and little business analytics experience taking the information that is public and making a reasonable hypothesis. I dont need to see the video to know that it is speculation. 

Ok man, I've just posted this for the people that don't know this not for the people that already know this.

Actually if you pay attention to the video, NVIDIA could easily crush AMD even with Vega. The author says the reason there, sadly I don't remeber at which minute was he saying that

Guys there is more to it. You have to watch the video to understand as my answer isn't exactly complete.

Why a big no no? (Elaborate please)

So I've found an interesting video on youtube that explains why AMD is losing against NVIDIA. I can't believe how blind people can be and also so uneducated. The bad has already been done and there's no going back. Even if this is a non LTT video link, I think this video contains very important information that everyone here should know and I consider this video to be also a history lesson. Hopefully I can post a non LTT video link (I'm new) (Please make an exception for me ( ) ( )). 

Anyways, if you have ever wondered why is AMD losing against NVIDIA here's the video that explains that:

Answer (if you don't have time to watch the video):

And btw this looks similar as the Apple vs Android phone maker companies (imo).