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20 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Even 48gb may work for p6t, there are some ppl that have gotten 48gb to work, though why the hell even invest that much in a dead platform? 48gb isnt even useful on this platform just because of how damn old the cpus are and they only perform as well as first gen ryzen of oced

 

Also you really should run triple channel as x58 benifits from triple channel ram, you can run a 4x4 config by leaving the 2 outer slots unused, im doing the same thing but 3 sticks because i am overclocking the balls off my ram (1x3 transcend 1333 with psc x chips at 2200 c5 5-10-7-24 1.8v)

 

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If you are overclocking (mandatory on x58) bios mod your board cause asus lowend bios is trash, you can do it with a 4$ bios programmer and flash to p6x58d premium, this will increase oc ability, basically the first thing i did when i got my p6t deluxe v2

 

And do not follow the safe voltages as theyre mostly garbage overly conservative ppl made up 12 years ago that will ruin your overclocks

 

cpu can go upto 1.55v according to intel 32nm spec

 

i have run 2.46v ddr3 just because i was testing my samsung rev f stick and stressed for ~8 hours total w qpi volt at 1.55v with no degradation to speak of so assume ~2.1v max if you dont want the imc to degrade, though safe volt for the dram itself is a whole other thing though samsungs and microns are fine upto 2.46v, everything else just assume 1.9v

 

1.4v qpi degradation is garbage, theyre fine for awhile at 1.55v but thats benching volt so it will degrade eventually, you should be running 1.4-1.45v qpi aka vtt with 3700-3900 uncore

 

Also the 0.5v rule is also complete garbage i ran nearly 1v ∆ with samsung ddr3 at 2.46v and imc at 1.48v, again no degradation

 

 

Beware of dram volt due to ddr3 being somewhat expensive but otherwise these cpus are dirt cheap so if you degrade one theyre like 10$

 

I can easily use that much RAM with few Chrome tabs open. My RAM usage is pretty much always maxed out (I have only 24GB) and my CPU usage is around 0-5% when I don't have Genshin Impact or any other game open in the background. If I do then it's around 30% or so.

The highest RAM usage I've had was a bit over 100GB (physical + virtual). So I wouldn't call 48GB useless on X58.

3 hours ago, OW1TY2 said:

well that's a pity...I thought Registered ECC rams are available since I'm using Xeon X5650,now 20 bucks are wasted and I've got to go for the 40 bucks rams, dang.

If the sticks are 2Rx8 then they might work, but more likely they are 2Rx4 which don't work.

It's definitely not running at 4.9GHz. With the highest multipliers it would run at 4.1-4.3GHz depending on how many cores are in use.

It must be able to handle the CPU I want to use (and higher end ones for possible upgrade in the future), have good I/O (many USB ports, PS/2 for keyboard), good PCIe spacing, 8 or more SATA ports, preferably faster than 1Gb NIC for the future, 4 or more DIMM slots and support for at least up to 128GB RAM

If I remember correctly only some Z97 boards support NVMe boot for 4th gen.

But you could use REFIND boot manager on a USB flash drive to boot the OS from the NVMe drive

https://winraid.level1techs.com/t/guide-nvme-boot-for-systems-with-legacy-bios-and-uefi-board-duet-refind/32251

I usually have few hundred browser tabs, Genshin Impact, Discord and few other applications open and my RAM usage (physical + virtual) is often over 30GB.

Currently I have only 16GB pagefile (and 24GB physical) so I always have to close the game and some browser windows before I can even open DaVinci Resolve.

For a while I had the same 24GB physical but with a 120GB SSD for virtual memory and few times I had over 100GB RAM usage with around 1000 browser tabs.

Thatwas pretty nice but I now have Windows 10 installed on the SSD. When I buy a bigger drive for the OS I'll probably use the small SSD for the pagefile again

16GB is still fine if you don't have more than ~10 browser tabs open while gaming and don't edit videos while having the browser and game open.

For higher end systems I'd recommend going with 32GB because then you don't have to worry about running out of RAM (unless you are like me).

The i5 6500 (Intel HD 530) seems to have HDMI 1.4 which can do 3840x2160@30Hz.

You'd need to use DisplayPort if you want 4k@60Hz but your TV most likely doesn't have that

It might work, or at least my ThinkPad T440p works just fine with mixed DDR3L (1.35v) 8GB and DDR3 (1.5v) 4GB sticks. But it probably depends on if the 1.5v stick can run stable at 1.35v or if the laptop supports 1.5v RAM

My guess would be some kind of power limit throttling, but I don't know why networking or eGPU would cause it to throttle.

Having a lot of power hungry USB powered peripherals might be able cause something like that if the laptop (charger or power delivery on the board) can't output enough power to everything. Though this is just a guess, I don't know if laptops would just cut the power down for USB devices or throttle power for things like the CPU, or just straight up shut down like my mom's 2006 Fujitsu laptop did.

If this was the case a powered USB hub would help, if you don't already have one

On my T440p the CPU (i7-4800MQ, GT 730M) sometimes gets stuck at 800MHz and I've used ThrottleStop to disable BD PROCHOT get the frequency back up. That seemed to have been a somewhat common problem on Haswell systems but if your CPU gets back up after throttling without a reboot I don't think it's that

7 minutes ago, xmilyy said:

 So I Cant Get It To 3.6ghz in 4 cores?

No, the all core turbo is 3.2GHz. It goes above that only when you don't have load on the other cores

4 minutes ago, freeagent said:

1.4 is just getting started, I used that daily for years on my old x5690. My cap was 1.6v for 4800.. winter benching. It didn’t scale after that.

1.6v for daily oc? I've always seen people say around 1.45v would be the maximum safe voltage

10 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

32nm = 45nm when it comes to volt tolerance, intel spec is 1.52v iirc but im fine pushing upto 1.7v daily as long as the damn cooling can keep up (which it cant xD)

 

Basically if i can daily 1.7v on a c2d i can do the same with westmere

That's not true. Intel spec for 32nm is 1.4v.

I'd recommend reading some X58 overclocking guides for example this one

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/overclocking-the-x58-a-practical-guide.108526/

22 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

 

5ghz boot done, just raised pll to 2v, volt is set at 1.512 no llc, it crashed right after the photo when i attempted to go into ai tweaker menu

 

Lmao 1st hour of getting the board and immedeatly does 5ghz boot xD

 

maybe with a car rad i can make it stable and dailyable at 5-5.2ghz since it only starts getting unsafe once vcore is near 1.7v and 5g only requires ~1.5-1.6v with temps <70c to be stable so dailyable but horrifically inefficient, maybe ill just stick to ~4.6g for daily just to not ruin my parents power bill xD

You are not going to get 5GHz stable for daily use. And I wouldn't recommend using much over 1.4V on a 32nm Westmere for daily use, you will kill the CPU really fast. Around 4.5-4.6GHz is the maximum you can expect for 24/7 stable and safe overclock.

Last year I had something similar happen to a Fujitsu Esprimo E910 (an old i5-3470 system).

I plugged in a SATA drive, checked the boot order in BIOS, I noticed I had plugged the drive in to a SATA 3Gb/s port so I shut it off with the PSU power switch.

After that I haven't been able to get it to post, all it does is to ramp-up the fan speed after a while. The power on light turns on though. I've tried to reset CMOS, different RAM, another CPU but nothing makes a difference.

In my case there is the possibility that switching the drive from a SATA 3Gb/s port to a 6Gb/s port might have killed it but that's unlike because the drive works fine in other systems so I suspect it to have been caused by me shutting it off from the PSU power switch while in BIOS even though that sounds weird too

13 hours ago, Blue4130 said:

Lenovo s30 v1 is pretty decent. 

I agree. ThinkStation S30's can be get for quite cheap and are more reliable than the Chinese "X79" boards.

With 16GB and 8GB sticks it would work in flex mode so up to 16GB (8GB of the 16GB stick + the 8GB stick) it's in dual channel but the last 8GB of the 16GB stick will be in single channel

Intel DX58SO does seem to have overclock settings in BIOS so it doesn't matter much which one you get. If you are new to overclocking the multiplier unlocked W3680 might be a bit easier because something like 4.0-4.1GHz can be done easily just by changing the multiplier and keeping the BCLK at stock (133MHz). And it can be overclocked with Intel XTU which makes it great for OEM systems that don't have any overclocking settings in BIOS but that's not a problem on your board.

If the X5680 is noticeably cheaper then it might be a better option. Something like 4.0-4.2GHz is easy to get by using 20x or 21x multiplier, 200MHz BCLK and 1.3-1.35v. There's many good overclocking guides for Westmere Xeons on the internet or you can ask help in the Intel HEDT forum thread which I've linked below

I'm not sure if the W3670 in the title is a typo or not but that CPU has locked multiplier and has lower QPI Link speed (4.8GT/s instead of 6.4GT/s) so I wouldn't recommend that one. Only the W3680, W3690, i7-980X and i7-990X have unlocked multiplier.

19 hours ago, freeagent said:

My 3770K rocked my old X5690 at similar clocks while using waay less power.

With similar clocks on both the 3770K would be faster in single core but slower in multi core.

But back to the topic I'd recommend going for an i7-3770K instead of the i5-3570K, at least where I live Z77 motherboard + 3770K + 16GB RAM bundles are usually 100€ or under which isn't far from what Z77 + 3570K + 16GB bundles go for. But if the 3570K is a lot cheaper then it wouldn't be bad either.

Dual X5690 (the fastest CPUs for that platform) at stock would be around 10% slower than a stock 7820X on Cinebench R15.

And you can't overclock the Xeons on dual socket motherboards, unless it's the EVGA SR-2.

Also because the 6c/12t Xeons are from 2010-2011 they don't have some instruction sets like AVX, AVX2 and AVX-512

As far as I know LGA1366 mount dimensions are 80mm from hole to hole.

I know HP Z400 Workstations use standard LGA1366 spacing so maybe they used that for the cheaper LGA1156 system too

Or it might be non-standard

Galaxy S5 has an official Android 6 update which you should be able to install easily. Unless your phone is from some carrier that doesn't release updates for their phones

9 hours ago, octester said:

The board I have doesn't really allow me to overclock, most if not all the important bits are locked and cause any attempt to overclock to become unstable

From what I searched it should allow overclocking. It's just not the same way as on modern systems because the CPU is multiplier locked.

Here is a overclocking guide for H55/P55, it's for a different board but it shouldn't be too hard to find the same settings on your board. The most important ones are the BCLK frequency and core voltage

Does it come with a CPU? People often sell X58 boards with an i7-920 or similar as a socket cover so if it comes with one you can use it to make sure it has the latest BIOS version installed. If not you can probably find one for dirt cheap

7 hours ago, marcuzx said:

also got a cpu cooler to go with it but idk if it’s enough for overclockng?

What cooler is it? Pretty much any decent cheap tower cooler should be enough for 4.0GHz 1.3v but for higher clocks (over 4.2GHz) you might need better cooler

Have you already overclocked your CPU? There isn't much difference between H55 and P55 chipsets and I don't think the 2 extra RAM slots the P7P55D-E is worth the money.

You already have one of the best CPUs for the platform so I'd recommend just overclocking it if you haven't already and keep saving for a new platform.

Intel Celeron 333MHz - This was what my first PC had. It was already old and slow when I got it in 2006 but it is what I had.

Intel Xeon E5420 - My first (and second) server had two of these, thanks to these CPUs I have a lot of great memories of my Minecraft server. They were also the first Xeons I've ever had or even used, two months later I decided to buy a Xeon W3520 system to replace my main PC which at the time was running a Core2 Duo E6300.

Intel Xeon W3520 (i7-920) - My first powerful enough CPU, it was able to run everything I did without any problems. I bought it over 8 years ago and honestly I could still use it as my main CPU

Intel Xeon X5670 - The best bang for the buck CPU I've ever had, when overclocked it was able to match way more expensive CPUs (in 2016 when I bought it). It's still more than powerful enough for everything I do, especially because I have a really slow graphics card (GTX 960)