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modifying my cpu voltage at about 4 in the morning trying to test stability on certain clock speeds, and in a half asleep state entering 1.70v instead of 1.07v and booting up... next thing i know cpu overvoltage detected and my temp was 90c in about 2 seconds... god knows how it didnt fry on 1.7v but luckily i managed to reset bios quick enough so hopefully there wasnt too much damage caused!

you know its degrading when it requires more voltage to run at the same clock speed, say after 1yr of running completely fine at 1.3v 4.8ghz it starts to bsod alot and now requires 1.32 to run at the same clock because is degraded slightly

the point was that it runs at that clock at such low voltage, most stock 4790ks run at around 1.26v at 4.4ghz

seems high to me i didnt think mine was very special ive just undervolted it and it runs at 1.15v at 4.5ghz fine

Hey guys, Bit of an odd one as im usually overclocking, but i recently got a 4790k and im happy with the 4.4ghz, but it runs quite high voltage stock (1.263v) under load at 4.4 which gets pretty hot up to like 70c in games. Basically i know it is being given generous voltage amounts because ive done a manual underclock and ive stress tested with aida64 for hours with the same stock 4.4ghz but at a lower 1.15v, which runs alot cooler and is using 0.11v less, so this is great but the only thing is when doing a manual overclock the voltage stays at 1.15v all the time and wont clock down in idle power saving states (it goes down to around 0.7v on idle). The thing is normally i would wack it on adaptive voltage settings with 1.15 as the max and it would clock down just fine, but atleast with my asus z97 board adaptive voltage can only be used for additional voltage such as with overclocking, meaning that 1.15v is not additional to the stock 1.26, therefore it doesnt work! Ive tested it many times and in an overclocking state for example 1.28v at 4.6ghz the adaptive voltage works fine, but trying to underclock it down to 1.15 or 1.2v etc... it automatically reverts back to the stock 1.26v. So i have given up on adaptive for underclocking, instead i have decided to use offset voltage settings, as with this giving a negative offset to my base voltage will work just fine, and currently i have a negative 0.06 offset to my base which brings me to 1.2v under load and then automatically downclocks on idle, the only problem is as you may have noticed a 0.06 negative offset only gets me to 1.2v when i know my cpu can run at 1.15, well what ive been getting to is that offset voltage affects all voltages the cpu clocks to including the bottom idle clock which was about 0.7v, its now 0.64v... and my system is fine, however if i do a negative 0.11v offset voltage which would take my load voltage to 0.15 my idle voltage is reduced too far below stock 0.7v that my pc will not boot! So i must ask does anyone know a way in which i can undervolt my cpu from 1.26v to around 1.15v, whilst still benefiting from intels low voltage idle states, but not affecting the base idle clock too much so that my system wont boot such as im experiencing with a negative offset currently. I figured there must be a way but havent had any luck yet so any help would be great thanks.

Yea it was a h60 they are pretty good, i did run it on 12 at the start but noise was quite noticeable and after lowering it it was almost silent in the end i think. i dont know if reducing the pump speed lowered temps but i was getting quite high cpu temps in the end after long periods of high usage up to high 80s because i run my 4770k overclocked i think it was 4.2 at the time. but now with my current setup i have a really big heatsink with basically two 14cm fans blasting air into it from outside the case it stays really cool even at 4.4 so im probably going to stay with this setup now, the only thing that actually gets hot is the gpu and like i said it seems to be down to the gpu itself, ive noticed the fan speed rarely goes above 50% which is down to msi's firmware settings i presume as the card is stock. Its hot but wont be doing any damage so im not too fussed, i may eventually swap it out for the generation of gpus after the gtx 9** series if they are good / cooler, maybe a 1080?! if thats what nvidia ends up calling it haha.

Yea it really is basically the smallest i could find that would take a full length gtx 780 and an ATX power supply with good airflow The temps of the cpu are great under 100% load barely above 60c, the gpu actually gets up to about 77-79c under 100% load but i think this is just down to this particular gpu, because i didnt mention it but i previously had a Gtx 680 in there before i swapped out for a 780 and that is a similar card with similar cooler but would always be about 65-68c under 100% load. The airflow is actually really good though because theres a 140mm intake fan pushing cool air from outside straight down onto the 140mm cpu fan and into the case creating positive pressure forcing warm air out the side vents, the gpu uses a similar method to the node 304 of just being directly next to vents to pull cool air in and theres a vent underneath for the exhaust. i know what you mean about hdd noise tho i have mine to turn off after 1min of not using it because its the loudest thing in my system haha and yea i guess you wouldnt hear those 120mm fans unless their ramped up high i just really wanted the smallest case i could find without having to have a sfx psu or a mitx style gpu I did actually have a water cooling closed loop system installed in it before but i always had quite bad pump noise so eventually i switched back to air cooling and just tried to find the biggest i could heres a pic of the old version attached to the 140mm fan and the internals of the old setup and heres the old 680 i had in it which ran alot cooler in the same environment for some reason

yea i thought about the node 304 but its quite a bit wider and taller and has to use smaller fans for airflow etc which put me off aswell because i find them louder at higher rpms. it fits more 3.5inch drives but i mainly use ssds now and just have one 4tb hdd for backup / storage. plus you have to use a non-modular psu if you want to use a long graphics card and there isnt much room to take all of the included cables, the sg08 comes with a silverstone powersupply that has custom cables that are shorter and there is nothing leftover when everythings plugged in

hi guys, just recently finished up my mini itx rig and thought i would see what people think, i need something small to put in a suitcase when i need to travel but i also wanted alot of power for gaming etc. the specs are: - CPU: Intel i7-4770K @4.4Ghz 1.2v - GPU: MSI GTX 780 3GB OC Twin Frozr IV - RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LP @1866Mhz CAS 10 - Motherboard: Asus ROG Maximus VI Impact Z87 ​- Storage: 960GB Crucial M500 SSD + 4TB WD RED - CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-S12P SE14 - Fans: Noctua NF-A15 140mm Case Fan + NF-P14 140mm CPU Fan - PSU: Silverstone 80 Plus Bronze 600W - Case: Silverstone SG08B this is the case and with most of the cable management done already here is the biggest cpu cooler i could find that would actually fit in the case here it is with the cpu cooler in and top case fan above pushing in cool air heres a view on the other side finally running to test it all works showing the size of it and the rather large tv i use final setup with my other monitor

i play haha.. well when im home from uni i do ive been doing it since i was like 14 or something i swear.. im 21 now haha... theres a really big community of people and lots of different sites to go to where im from (buckinghamshire - england) most people have AEGs, really big varietys though as most are good if you pick a nice high quality brand or a good clone brand atleast I used a mp5 but its a custom job, basically looks the same as this: http://img01.militaryblog.jp/usr/niinii/P1030511.JPG I know some people say paintball is better and stuff... but its fun customising the guns, upgrading internals etc and getting them really powerful (i once saw a guy get his front tooth shot out....)

Ah yea i see what you mean about the psu you can actually fit quite alot in there, may have a look at that but i think its actually a bit bigger than i expected (compared to the silverstone sg08). And yea the q18 looks really nice! im sure it wouldnt overheat, i am just really put off that the cpu is blocked in by the psu, and i know theres a fan on the bottom under the gpu, but its only pushing air out under the case so i can imagine it getting quite hot really... compared to the design of the node 304 / ss sg08 that are open above the cpu and the gpu faces out to the side of the case.

hmmm maybe im blind but... i cant see the psu in that case Lol, from what ive heard you need to have either a modular psu thats 15cm deep so the psu cables do not block the gfx card. or a 16cm deep non modular psu because all the wires are at the end on the right so they dont interfere (unless a very long gfx card) however you get wayy to many cables for the case so it gets a bit messy so im not sure about the node, how many watts is the psu in your node and how what graphics fits with it? I actually really like the look and quality of Lian Li cases.. however internally it seems like every mini itx lian li has the psu covering the cpu fan, and the gfx card stuffed into the bottom of the case with no airflow which is annoying. Out of the lian li's i looked at the q08, the q18, the q11 and the q25/27/28... they all had the same internal design pretty much that seems really bad for cooling.

yea i saw linus' build on the ft03 i just wasnt sure about the gfx cooling, it sounds good though, which graphics card do you use with it out of interest? and yea i like the node 304 i just got put off a bit because some modular psu's cabling stops the installation of a longer graphics card which is a bit of a pain, and a non modular is so messy in a mini itx case

how is the ft-03? i think its pretty cool i just wonder about the graphics card location a bit.. as its facing a solid sidepanel so ventilation cant be great? or do you have a card that exhausts out the rear of the card (and out the top of the case)

i think i saw that video Lol! not sure if it will be a reality anytime soon though... there are alot of all in one pcs with mobile internals but i havent seen anything with a big upgradable case haha... (probably for a reason!)