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Budget (including currency): $400-500 Country: USA Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Destiny 2 , Shadow of War, OBS, Streaming, Work from Home PC. Other details: Currently have 4790k (4.5ghz) + 1080 FTW and Full Water Cooling loop for CPU only (Originally Planning WC Video Card but then the 1080ti was launched) See parts list below. Original Forum Post of my current build: PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU Intel Core i7-4790K 4 GHz Quad-Core Processor Purchased For $268.92 Motherboard MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard Purchased For $75.79 Memory Corsair Vengeance Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-2400 CL11 Memory Purchased For $69.99 Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $95.05 Storage OCZ RD400 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive Purchased For $257.20 Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card Purchased For $649.99 Case In Win 303 ATX Mid Tower Case Purchased For $79.99 Power Supply EVGA G2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $109.99 Monitor Asus ROG SWIFT PG278QR 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor Purchased For $449.95 Custom EK Custom WC 2x360Rad Purchased For $480.32 Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $2537.19 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-09 14:05 EST-0500 Backstory: Through the winter (2019-2020) I was streaming Destiny 2, running OBS to youtube more for an off site gameplay storage and my wife (Fiance at the time) liked to watch. Warmer months came and my PC started to crash while streaming. So I stopped streaming just played with only the game and discord going. Well eventually I was getting crashes from Heat. So I manually cranked all the fans (chassis and GPU) to 100% and it seemed to be ok, then After a long gaming session (2hr+) I'd still crash. I ended up reducing my CPU OC from 4.8ghz to 4.5 and locked my FPS to 85 in game and cranked the fans and seemed to run fine. Now with cooler weather I got daring and uncapped my FPS with the fans Cranked still and was able to enjoy 95+FPS again. It feels like my CPU is at its end of days from being OC at 4.8 from 2016. So I'm looking at updating my hardware. Which means CPU, MoBo, and RAM (seeing I'm running DDR3). I know a better Airflow Case would help with temps But I love the aesthetics of the Inwin 303 so I am not planning on changing it. My proposed build: Ryzen R5 3600 $180 (Micro Center) $190 for A good x570 MoBo (Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI) for the option to upgrade to a 5600 or 5700 in two or three years. $90 16Gb of ddr4 $80 for AM4 CPU Waterblock for the Loop My Wife's PC is running a B450 with a Ryzen R5 2600 so my thought would be I can upgrade her PC with the 3600 when I upgrade to a Ryzen 5000 CPU. Thoughts? Better Paths? Not really wanting just do a GPU upgrade. I do plan on a ground up OS refresh and try to dial in the OC again before I bite the bullet and buy new.

I was so happy when GOG got this. I have the original PC CD and was able to get it running on a win 98 machine a few years ago to enjoy the nostalgia. I remember playing this when I was 6, and never learning there was a "Boost" function. Needless to say, I never beat it for a good year, LOL.

Agreed, but it is the workers' responsibility to value their time according to the market. A company is only allowed to pay what the workforce is willing to take, if the workforce is willing to take $5/hr the company will pay $5/hr. I believe in the original ideals of Unions as they are to help the worker, but history has shown unions have destroyed competitive industries and allowed for corruption. The US Car manufacturers at the last recession is a prime example. Michigan Unionized autoworkers inflated the payroll costs enormously inflating the cost of domestic vehicles. So when Asian and European Car companies opened Non-Union plants to sell cars domestically circumnavigating the stupid import tariffs of automobiles, the importers were now able to offer competitive cars which showed how inflated the domestic car market was. And the Domestic Auto Manufacturers didn't have the flexibility due to the strangle hold the Unions had on them which finally came to a head when Oil prices skyrocketed and the recession hit. It took the Government (stupidly) to bail out the auto companies to "save the jobs." It sounds heartless to say thousands of people should lose their jobs but if their jobs are secured by corrupt corporate/governmental dealing then I think the burnt hands teaches best. People are too engrossed in their reality-TV, let's plays, streamers, pro sports, etc. to pay attention to the things which ACTUALLY affect their lives until it is too late and then get upset because they did anything until the problem is at a head.

So Business owners are forced to eat the cost of those who can't help themselves.

Raising the Minimum wage in my belief will have negative affects on low skilled workers. Why should a business pay someone $15/hr($31,200/yr) to print tickets at the movie theater? Say they Spend $50,000 on a kiosk to print those tickets. They just broke even on their investment after 1.5yr. I acknowledge minimum wage jobs aren't all filled by 15 and 16yr olds. There are also plenty of jobs out there where you don't need a college level education to achieve $15-20/hr starting and $20-30/hr after a few experience. Sure those jobs may involve manual labor, landscaping, construction, etc. But they offer good pay and some even offer pretty good benefits. The fact people are upset Amazon is/wasn't paying their employees "well" I find absurd. Those employees were never forced to take that job. Maybe they felt they needed to, I acknowledge individuals do not always look outside their social or ecosphere. I personally had a 4-yr degree but was lazy about looking for work and presenting myself in a positive way to employers. Hell I lived in my parent's basement (classic millennial) for 3 years until I personally made the decision to stop playing video games and actually work on my employment and learn some applicable skills (Lynda.com and hours of Microsoft office training helped a ton). Got myself a good paying job and moved out of the parents' place. As some have said before, with the access to a near infinite supply of knowledge on the internet, an individual has little excuse in the modern age to allow him/herself to stagnate in their growth. Minimum wage jobs are more to simply show a potential employer, "hey I can show up on time, do the job I'm asked to do, and keep on coming back." once that is established someone should either seek more responsibilities and thus become more valuable to their current employer (shift lead, manager, store manager, etc.) or find better employment opportunities. By increasing the minimum wage you reduce wage competition between employers. If all employers are locked into a base wage level it is now ILLEGAL for an employee to ask for a lower wage to simply gain experience. How is a 16yr kid with zero experience supposed to convince an employer he is worth the higher minimum wage. Lets talk about a person who did something dumb which got them thrown in jail (something non-violent, like drug possession) now they have a mark on their record and can't get employment because of it. Even if they were willing to work for below the minimum wage to just show they are a good citizen now and are responsible, they can't because it is ILLEGAL to be paid under the minimum wage, which the employee is WILLING to take. I'm not going to say the minimum wage hurts the poor because that is a straw man argument. I will say it reduces the marketability of unskilled/non-skilled workers. Why does Wal-mart have to pay their greeters (someone who literally stands at the front and says "Hi") $15/hr? What if that person is willing to do it for $5/hr? That would be ILLEGAL for Wal-mart to pay them so low. I am not ignoring there are people who currently try to live off of a minimum wage job. I acknowledge this fact. Yet I believe for the majority of those doing so, they can get themselves out of that position. And I acknowledge there are those with medical issues which hinders their marketable skills which can stunt their potential wage growth. But they are the exceptions to the overall rule, and you shouldn't make laws and regulations because of the exceptions.

I'd Go with Campaigns in this order. 1. Halo 3 2. Halo 1 3. Halo 2 4. Halo Reach 5. Halo 4 6. Halo 5 7. Halo ODST Multiplayers 1. Halo 3 2. Halo 2 4. Halo Reach 5. Halo 4 6. Halo 5 Can't Put Halo CE because I didn't have a PC to run it or Xbox to play it at the time. Halo 3 has a special place for me as it was the first Halo I owned, I did play the first two and played their campaigns, missed the Multiplayer experiences in their primes (I did have the opportunity to play Halo 2 in LANs prior though). I think the Multiplayer in Halo 3 was near perfect, everyone was balanced, and it was based on your skill and knowledge of the map and game mode. No loadouts, no Sprint/dodge/climbing, no perks, armor equipment. Just you the starting weapon, and the map. Not that I dislike the more complexity the updates add, just it was simple in my mind. (I do find it amusing Lorewise that the most athletic/agile human in a powered suit might not be able to get up a ledge because its higher than his base vertical, which was taken care of with the climbing feature in Halo 5.) Halo Reach though was where I fell in love with Shotty-Snipers and Swat playlists, playing Bloodgulch on on reach in 4v4 snipers was so much fun. I'll be honest the last two Campaigns I believe were too reliant on the extended universe with the book trilogies of Kilo-Five and Forerunner Saga to set up the antagonist Jul Mdama and the Didact. They we were expecting their campaign lovers to have already read those 5-6 books prior to playing the campaign to better understand their villains. I think this was apparent when they Killed Jul in the first mission of Halo 5. Then Halo 5 weighed on the expectations of players remembering/understanding Dr. Halsey's need to preserve her Spartans which is demonstrated in books First Strike and Ghosts of Onyx, and explains why Cortana wants to capture Master Chief and preserve him. Stepping away from the failures of their writing in the last two, game play I really enjoyed the new things they added in 4 & 5. Don't understand how the radar has downgraded between 4 & 5 though or how Spartans lost the ability to dual wield. I recently replayed Halo 3 and 5 Campaigns and the drastic difference in 8yr of game play and story telling is dramatic. Also the fact 343 felt "comfortable" balancing the Halo 5 Campaign after launch tells me they weren't confident in their game at launch, but that is also the plague of modern video games the first few patches after launch. I was extremely disappointed in the lack of local multiplayer in Halo 5, and very happy to hear they are including it moving forward. But I want to point out something when it comes to the "coming to PC" cheers of some on this forum. Halo Wars 2 which was released as a "play anywhere" game (Xbox or PC on one purchase) is no longer supported on PC; granted this was developed by creative assembly, so they may have dropped it. Also if I remember MS launched a Forge client on in their store for a week or so allowing PC players to play and design in halo 5's forge, but haven't heard anything for a while. My hope for Infinite is it launches a new trilogy and they are able to write a compelling story. The Halo Universe is quite vast and I wouldn't mind them branching out in spin-off games in completely different genres. I could see them easily fitting in a Assassians' Creed/Shadow of Mordor type game based on the Pre-Covenant, Colonial uprising time period which is the original reason the Spartan-II program was intended. You could be a a Spartan-II in Mark 3 or 4 Mjolnir armor. They already have decent Console RTS and then the Arcade top down shooters. I kinda hope they don't attempt a Destiny Clone (MORPGFPS), granted they could work it into the Lore, players are all Spartan-IVs running around on missions in fireteams etc. But it would be redundant in the gaming space because the fan bases are practically the same people, IMHO. Good Lord, ok I think i'm done. Rant(?) over.

It was indeed the Pump which died. I tried it with multiople fan headers and the provided Direct Sata power cable. I am contacting EKWB support. I purchased the pump in one of their L360 kit in OCT 2016. EK-XRES 100 DDC MX 3.1 PWM is the model number, Hope to hear from them sometime next week.

Dual 360 Radiators on the single CPU. But a Fresh Thermal Paste application might help. I will try it! I just hope I don't have to drain the system because of how tight my tubes run.

Hello builders, I have a problem, my PC just started having this problem as of 1hr ago. I booted the computer, logged in, stepped away to heat up my food, came back and all the fans were running at 100% and the computer was frozen. I power cycled, windows failed to boot, restarted, fail, restart, fail, power cycle fail. Each time with a blue Windows error screen. And I never was able to make it to the Bios (even when attacking the DEL button). Turned the PC off, power cycled, cleared the Cmos, made it to the bios, it had reverted to stock speeds (and Voltages) but the Temps were starting to climb they made it 88*C in the BIOS. Power Cycled again and was able to boot windows. Once into windows I checked my BOIS was current. It is. Loaded MSI Command Center, and it showed Temps in the 80s. Then the CPU is throttled to 800mhz jumping to 1900mhz then back down, and "stable" at 60*C. Is this a CPU or a Motherboard issue? Power delivery? Please let me know where else to look. I am at a loss and don't have a different MoBo CPU to test. This post is being made by the troubled computer and will continue testing things and hoping it rights itself or I fix it.

Currently I am fighting with reinstalling my OS to the M.2 Drive Properly as well as the Raid1 configuration. I may forgo the Raid1 and do a Parody Software Backup option rather than raid's Mirroring. I am open to suggestions. Unfortunately my current Motherboard doesn't take advantage of the SSD's full potential but it will still be a significant improvement over my 850 Evo. And down the road when I do plan to upgrade I should be able to get a Motherboard to take advantage of its capabilities.

After the braving the crowds of Black Friday, I have updated Emerald Shade. Here are the updates with pictures! 3Tb SeaGate Barracuda HDD to be paired with the original 3tb Hdd for Raid1 4Tb SeaGate Expansion drive for "offsite" backup in case of catastrophic failure. (Would like some suggestions on back software outside of Windows 10's onboard method) 512gb OCZ RD400 W/AIC (AIC option was cheaper by $40 than stand alone M.2 Drive at the time of purchase) G502 Logitech RGB Mouse, Replaces my G402 which is not RGB and Blue not Green (still in the mail, delivery date is set for tomorrow) K70 Corsair Rapidfire Switches and RGB to replace my $2 Dell keyboard (EWW....)(Delivery is tomorrow Pics will be posted That Cable management. Never thought of how small these were so I'd thought I'd Share.

So Pretty! Love the clear tubing and the runs you have.

Amazing Build, Love the custom cables Dual 1080s? Get that 4k! no 1440 peasant resolutions. LOL

Thank you. No I live in Minnesota, USA. I am a fan of Man-U because my soccer idol, Tim Howard (USA Goal Keeper) played for them when I was watching Premiere as a kid. I don't watch too much any more, but I got the flag when I went to London on a School trip.

That is what the Box said. In fairness this is the FTW "DT" Not the higher end FTW. Purchased from NewEgg.

The visual "upgrade" + GPU is somewhere in the $1500 range Case $80 Power Supply $110 Cables + Combs $75 fans and splitters $90 WC Loop $500 1080 $650 Parts I already had CPU $200 Mobo $70 Mem $70 SSD $85 Hdd $85 I do have my PC Part Pick link in my OP.

I am in love with the uniqueness of the case so I probably won't replace it anytime soon. There have been full ATX MoBo with expansion slots in the top position, EVGA z97 FTW and a few X99 MoBo's. The case is the central feature to this build so replacing the case would eliminate my "muse". Think of this build as "what can I do with this case" rather than "I want to build a high-powered gaming rig."

Quick update. My idle was a little high and the MoBo heatsinks were getting a little too hot for comfort without direct airflow. Thus I added a black gloss Cooler master fan from my old Hyper 212. See Picture below. Anyone have suggestions on a quite Blacked out fan? I'm going to keep this fan running at the lowest possible speed for maintain some acoustics. I added two Vadar Fans from my EK L360 kit to the "attic" to improve the exhaust ability, and tidied up the cable management. Idles are now in the mid 20*C

For me its is Halo, So i'd fall under the Exclusives reasoning. Also I don't have to restart my console when a game crashes, check the drivers, do a uninstall of the game, clean the disk of old files and drivers, redownload the game and install. Consoles have my gaming friends, now try convincing 20 people they should spend $600-1000 on a new ecosystem then purchase their peripherals another $300-1000 depending on the quality of product, and then either teach them how to illegally pirate games or make them spend more money on games they already own on console. But I also have a PC for mods and relatively less expensive games. Current steam library of a mere 66 games for $140 in total is nice but I only have two actually current games in my library. Sure I have a back log of old games KOTOR 1&2, AOE 2&3, Valve collection, but many are nostalgia titles or the graphics are pointless on a $2000 PC. Granted they will work, most of the time. Also there are plenty of people that spend a majority of their time on 1-3 games a year. Not everyone loves MMORPGs, FPS, RTS, RPGs or JRPGs. On console I've put 800hr into Destiny, easily over 2000hr on Halo 3 in high school, across both PC and Console 1000hr on Minecraft, for X360 I put 300hr into skyrim without every finishing the main quest and now I play it on PC for the mods bringing new life to a game I loved in College. To each their own, its the same reason people buy new cars or olds ones, why someone drives a bmw or a honda. They have different needs and requirements of the equipment they use and find what fits their individual wants.

aida64 stress test is in the high 80*C Cinebench benchmark is 64*C Gaming loads are low 60*s Idle is 35*C

Hello Fellow Builders, I wish to show of my most recent build. I call her Emerald Shade as you will probably guess why. Hope you like it! Back Story, for those who wish to read, I saw the InWin 303 case in some of the Computex coverage this last year and I fell in love immediately. But I didn't want to just through my current build in such a beautiful case, so I began to plan. I had dreams of a dual 360 Radiator Water Cooled loop with LED fans and custom cables. The colors hadn't come to me yet but i was searching. I then came across the Corsair LED SP120 fans and wanted the Green LEDs, sorta my favorite color. I then purchased the 303 Case in August on sale but then was patient until I could collect enough funds for cabling and a watercooling loop. I then picked up a EVGA G2 850 as my power supply and green Cable Mod Custom Cables kits and combs (Sadly a few weeks too early for their %20 off sale). Ordered a EK L360 WC kit, additional AquaCool Fittings, and PrimoChill White Tubing. As I mapped out the Tubing and found some difficulties which required multiple trips to the hardware store, I got everything set and ready to install the MoBo etc. but I just couldn't let such a beautiful setup be hindered by a non RGB Video Card, thus I purchased a EVGA 1080 FTW DT. Once the GPU arrived I began transplanting the old into the NEW. Once I had the water loop all buttoned up after finding some leaks from not tightening the fittings properly, this was my first WC build, I Benched the stock performance of the Build so I can have a Gauge on what my gains were when I started OverClocking. I was able to OverClock the 4790k to 4.8Ghz at 1.35v with 3 separate aida64 stress tests of 7+hr. And got my 1080 to 1941mhz with a memory offset of 500mhz. ScreenShot of Benchmark numbers are below. I may provide links to the Official results later. I have noticed, for those still reading, The Corsair Fans are not optimal for this configuration. I do not feel a log of air coming from the rear exhausts which are a honeycomb design. The Case's attic allows for a great deal of heat to swirl around and get "trapped" due to the lack of direct airflow from the Fans which are pushing through a 45mm Rad. Also I am probably going to install an intake fan next to the IO to promote direct airflow on the Motherboard. Future Plans, I do have two EKWB water blocks for the 1080. Why two? well I plan on SLI in March when I upgrade to Kaby Lake with a mATX MoBo because then the lower GPU would be high enough from the Lower Radiator, which I may have to get a thinner (30mm) radiator. Here are my Build Specs CPU: 4790k 4.8ghz 1.35v MoBo: MSI Krait Gaming SLI Mem: Corsair Vengance DDR3 2x8gb 2400mhz GPU: EVGA 1080 FTW DT PSU: EVGA G2 850w Case: InWin 303 Black PC Partpicker Water Cooling Specs: EK L360 Kit: EK-Supremacy MS CPU WaterBlock PE 360 (42mm) radiator ek-XRES 100 DDC 3.1 PWM water pump/res Combo (with X3-150 replacement res) Alpha Cool XT45 360 Rad PrimoChill White Flex tubing 13/10mm EK Compression fittings, Alpha Cool 90* and 45* fittings Imgur Post for more pics Yes that is a drain tube. the Top Radiator is a AlphaCool xt45 360 with 6 possible fitting locations. This allows me to drain and fill with relative ease. Yes i need a real Keyboard now. Benches have the % increase over stock speed, then the average of each. Overall improvement is only from AVG FPS numbers. Old Build and setup, So Yes I added a Desk and extra TV.

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Just stumbled across this deal. I know this works for the US, but I apologize if I am wrong and it is available internationally (I don't know how Massdrop runs it). https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ek-gpu-water-cooling-block-backplate-bundle I just priced this deal on EKWB.com and after shipping to me in the upper Midwest it would be $183.98 + $40.78(S/H) I think this is a great deal if you are looking to watercool your 1080 and living in the US.

I meant not buy the open box card now, and buy a new 1080 from a black friday deal.

I know that. I'll edit my post. I meant wait til the price of "new" 1080s go down.