Thanks for the responses hopefully i get a few more suggesttions. The cm storm inferno and steelseries wow cataclysm mice are sleek looking but not my style. I donnt like the cyborg or rat look of the g502 a little to flashy. I am not big into razor an the m95 is bit to jumbled on the buttons i feel id hit the wrong one all the time. I do own the genius death knight silver so i am in no hurry but it is terrible the software is buggy an likes to freeze windows 7 it is all out balls in linux mint and the buttons as previously stated take a whole lot of force to puch an it is so cheaply build it feels like it is going to break just try to apply enough force to push said buttons. So thanks for all the suggestions an please keep them coming. It doesnt have to be perfect i just would like the 2 normal button left right click on top with to 2 top left an right buttons atleat with atleast one button on each left an right side all programmble. I hate scroll wheel tilt buttons. That is either weighted or atleast doesnt feel light an cheap without one. I thank you again for helping with the search its nice to have help when there is so many mice an google can be a pain.