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I wonder if my R7 250 can live up to this behemoth..

64 bit ultimate

CPU-Z also reads it as 4096

tried each of them on the first slot (single) and seems to be running fine though

Title says it all. I have 2x2 sticks and both of them are detected but only 2048 are usable. On BIOS it shows that both of my slots are occupied but it shows that I only have 2048 MB of RAM. I've tried switching it around and it seems that both sticks are fine and that my second slot seems to be the problem.. Anything on how to fix this? Thanks.

my RJ45 LAN port lol

you could get 5960X for less or around the same price with twice as much cores and cache and shits lol

lol just saw that and i was like wtf.. almost three times the cost, no extra cores, only couple more megs of cache and bit higher frequency.. what's up with that?

well with the point slightly altered then, do the non k cpus provide enough gain when overclocked for it to matter or atleast affect real world performance? yes its still free but is the gain still as good as it was back then?

It's as in no extra money would be needed. In the older days, *i think* all you need is a better cooler and you're good to go. That's not free but the performance gains you get for your extra $ is worth it. You might even get away with the stock cooler itself. But nowadays, you need a bunch of extra gimmicks like the Z chipsets and unlocked CPUs, which makes the money cost adds up. In addition to the extra cost of the two, you will have to have a better cooler so you can reach the full potential of your unlocked CPU. Whereas in the old days you can get away OCing with stock cooler and you dont have to spend more to justify the extra money cost of mobo and unlocked cpus and such.

back to point one then, it ain't free no more.. you're paying more for a better hardware, hence the better performance too I mean I'm all for the OC fun but I think the for free term is not quite "true" anymore

Isn't that just basically buying a better hardware for better performance and longevity/more "future proof"(i.e. not free) ? But still, you owe yourself to OC that CPU to justify the extra cost

How about it being "a free performance upgrade" ? Do you think OCing still counts as a free performance upgrade despite the extra cost ?

Please bear with me on this, I'm referring to Intel line of processors/CPU, Nowadays, you have to pay more to get an unlocked version of the CPU, which will cost you more money. You have to pay for Z-chipset motherboards to be able to overclock things, which also in the end costing more money. You have to buy an adequate aftermarket cooler to get a decent OC, which also in the end costing more money. You *probably* need to have more headroom in your PSU to OC, which *probably* in the end costing more money as well. Since you have to pay more to OC your CPU, and not to mention you better to pair it with an adequate GPU to keep up with the CPU, doesn't it actually cancel out the "free performance upgrade" of things? Is the overclocking part now more of a hobby (beside the actual performance gain ofc) ? It's probably still valid on high-end workstations, where you need a little extra performance gain without having to spend on a much more expensive CPUs and where the cost of the extra gimmicks can actually be justified.. -> your thoughts ? Yes you are still able to get free performance gains on AMD chips since most of them are unlocked, but you'd probably spend more on some aftermarket cooler as well to get more juice, and yet again costing more money. And yes you still get performance gains on OC'ing GPU, but in this case I'm referring to CPUs (Intel's).. Thoughts ? Do you think OCing to get "free performance upgrade" argument still valid ?

Will you be willing to compromise the upgrade path the Core series offers?

which begs the question is it worth OCing it? (lol i know i'm asking a lot of questions rn) and oh where in the price range would you draw the line with cpu only and oob performance.. sub $100?

Exactly what i meant.. Since you *probably* need to OC the FX to reach its full potential, why not get a non k i5 instead? as for the 860k and APUs, i don't really know that much.. Anyone care to weigh in? Are they in anyway good overclockers? Would you negate the point of budget CPU by having to OC it to get the best out of it (assuming you need better cooling and what not)?

btw i'm curious do the 860k/a10 do some good oc'ing with budget boards?

Oh btw I'm talking about gaming-wise, not rendering or other uses

So I've just ran into this video on youtube showing the i3 6100 and FX-6300 comparison.. And the dual core i3 shoved it up AMD's real good.. That really made me question the AMD for budget build shenanigans.. Yes, I know there's a huge age difference between the two. And yes, the i3 cost about $20 more, But I'm under the impression that you right now AMD CPU's (not just the fx series anyway) are the way to go with budget builds and just overclock it to reach its full potential, but wouldn't it mean you have to invest in better PSU, mobo, and a better cooler? Wouldn't that make up for the price gap for the i3 (or probably a non K i5) anyway ? Whereas with the i3 you just slap on the stock cooler, H97/H110 and you're pretty much ready to go.. Plus you're losing the upg path the intel platform offers and the DDR4 memory too.. I'm actually an AMD biased fanboy but after seeing that video I now question about the "getting an FX, Athlon X4 series for a budget build" that's been around for a while where for now you can get an i3 that actually deliver really really good performance compared to what AMD offers.. So what do you think guys, AMD still viable option for 2016 with the x4 860k/APUs? Or just straight up intel ? Where would you draw the price range line for getting an AMD or Intel CPU? Looking for a friendly and nice discussion

final build.. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ykJCf7 thoughts?

that would be waay overbudget.. my budget for the ram sticks is about $65 max i won't be oc'ing it too.. what do you think about the 2x8gb corsair value sticks (not a kit)?

worth another $10 for this unit ? http://seasonic.com/product/ss-600-et-active-pfc-f3/ one of the review i've read : http://www.eteknix.com/enermax-maxpro-500w-power-supply-review/

what if I ditch the ram and get 2 8gb value sticks? as they're the only one with 2133 fq.. and they are single stick btw

the one i got is the lowest one and it's 2400 (can't find the 2400 on ppc tho), there are ones with 2133 but mostly value single sticks, so i'm just gonna clock it down.. and oh there aren't any evga psus here. I live in Indonesia @xgn can i clock it down tho?