LukeSykpe

I have an r9 270x. It has served me well, but I would love to upgrade to a polaris card!

Kova, because it looks better imo

Well, first off, I can't pay using paypal. I live in Greece, and due to capital controls, getting money outside the country can be difficult, if not impossible, unless I had already paired my paypal account with a bank account - which I haven't. Furthermore, I don't think ebay's gonna care much in a year or two's time if I complain. I'm looking for a fairly permanent upgrade, that's why I'm not risking used.

Here's the thing though - I don't want to get used. Don't get me wrong, I know full well the value far outweighs the risks, but I'm not in a position to be taking any such risks at the present moment.

I already have a 270x. I'll just be getting another one. That would be the case if I was debating whether to get a single card, or two of them.

Not in my country. The cheapest LGA1150 setup goes for 200€. My budget is more along the lines of 160. As for the second setup, it doubles my budget. The 4460 is 240€ by itself.

I know. I'm planning to x-fire it within the next year or two.

I know fallout 4 is pretty good at using multiple threads, but I cannot get my hands on anything but an i3 3240 or 3250 for my socket, without going into the used market. Would investing in the 3250 be a good choice, rather than going for an AMD solution? I'm basically asking i3 3250 vs FX 83xx here, which I know sounds like a ridiculous comparison, but I'm only interested in gaming on this machine. Swapping the socket, unless I go for AMD, is way outta my budget.

Guess that's that then. Of course, that's what I expected, but you can never be too careful. @thenotoriousone Already planning on that. Will be happening soon.

Greetings everybody. Here's a little bit of background information, before I jump right into the topic. I bought fallout 4 on release, knowing full well my PC couldn't handle it, simply because I'm a very big fan of the series. I know it was stupid, but imagine that, the only reason I build a gaming PC to begin with was because my mother's netbook couldn't run fallout 3 when it came out. So now, a couple months later, after some dreadful 20 FPS-lowest-settings-possible shenanigans, I got a budget together for an upgrade. Now, my problem is, what should I upgrade? It mostly looks like a CPU bottleneck to me, but it could be something as simple as RAM. The game is rated for 8GB, while I'm running it with 4. Also, yes, I know my CPU bottlenecks my card pretty hard either way, even if it's not my issue in this particular case. Without further ado, the details. My system is as follows: Intel Pentium g620 @ 2.6GHz | Sapphire r9 270x dual-x 2GB | 4GB ddr3 @ 1333Hz. My GPU rarely hits above 40% usage in any area of the game that's not interior, where I see a very choppy 30FPS, with the game being nigh unplayable inside the city, where the FPS is close to 12-15 and dips to 1-2 every couple minutes. CPU is pretty much at 100% load all the time, for both cores. Memory is also fully loaded. My apologies for asking something so quite stupid as this, in spite of suspecting the answer already. I'd like to get an opinion from somebody else too though, especially someone with more experience in this than I.

I'll wait for a few more weeks and go for the FX 6300 then. Thanks everyone for the help.

Definitely, but that doesn't change the fact that I do want a new, especially case, since this one has 0 cable management potential and barely closes, but also an ATX board, although I could just put my current one in said case. Furthermore, I am going to repurpose all these parts as my parents need a home/storage/work computer over at their place. I might even give making it into a NAS a shot, although I have no idea if that'd work.

Any of the above mentioned are not available in my country, sadly. That was my first consideration as well, getting a chip that fits in my current MB. Edit: While I could order them from Amazon.de, the prices are way outside my range. And while I could opt for an i3 in similar pricing to the aforementioned FX, or somewhat better even, since I won't be needing a new board, it is, again, a dual core, which makes me question that pretty substantially. Furthermore, they are, to my knowledge, locked, so overclocking wouldn't be an option. Furthermore, my current CPU case and board will be donated to my mother, who needs a work PC, which my current specs, while obsolete for gaming, are pretty good for.

Greetings everyone So, as it says in the title, I am looking to get a new CPU for my low budget gaming rig. Let me give a little bit of context before listing options. I am on a pretty tight budget of around 150€, which could go up to 180€, but not much higher in the near future (I'm getting a summer job, but my University schedule and study hours make it real awkward to get even a part-time right now). What I basically want is a decent CPU, that, paired with what I consider a decent GPU (see below), could serve me well for the next couple years. Basically, I want something that won't bottleneck my GPU, which runs to about 30% of its capabilities on Fallout 4 on my current CPU, is fairly OC-able, for some futureproofness, since I could justify a 50-70€ or more in the future for cooling, even though I won't be overclocking for a couple months at least, and I *DON'T* really mind upgrading a motherboard along with my CPU in a few years, as counter-intuitive as that may sound, given my tight budget at this point in time. I would really love to get a decent i5 and call it a day, but that starts at 220€ by itself, without factoring a few euros in for the motherboard and case, since right now I have an m-ATX 1155 socket motherboard in a mini tower, and I am actually looking into getting an ATX board, disregarding the socket, in a midi tower+ case. Going for intel, unless I do dual-core, intel easily doubles my budget, so I was going to opt for AMD, to get more bang for that low of a buck. Now, I am, and I can't stretch this enough, VERY skeptic about it, and despite the amount of people recommending them (and the amount of times I've decided to go for one, to later question that decision), I've seen quite a few people recommending against AMD's CPUs, for various reasons. Of course, I know that both sides of this debate have a fair amount of fanboy-ism in them, so I am hoping to get a final answer here. The case, I have pretty much picked out, so I won't be giving an option for that, although if you can recommend a relatively cheap, good case with a window, I wouldn't mind looking into it. My options, and how I view them, are as follows: -Athlon X4 860k Pros: Well, first off, the one who gave me this idea was Linus himself, in 2015's holiday guide, so it's gotta be at least half-decent, right? The price is absolutely fantastic, coming in at 85€, rendering me able to get it right now, with an ATX board to boot. The stock speeds are great. It is a quad core, and I do have a use for the 4 physical cores, since this also doubles as my University work machine, which does sometimes give it workloads that do benefit from it, so I would rather not opt for a dual. It is fairly overclockable. Cons: Upgradablilty, something I am actually willing to disregard, although avoiding it would certainly be nice. Higher power consumption, which I don't care about. People saying it's not reliable for mild-to-heavy gaming. (Leaning more towards mild, for now) - FX 6300 or 6350 (Probably the first, plus an aftermarket cooler later on for OC) Pros: Decent gaming CPU. Good stock clock speed, easily overclockable. Great for multi-threaded work, something, again, I can benefit from, although negligibly above 4 physical cores. Overall great bang-for-the-buck. Cons: Price. At 120€, it covers most of my budget, leaving 40€-60€ for motherboard + case. I would either have to wait a month or two, which is what I'm leaning towards, or eliminate the case, use my current one, but get a decent m-ATX board, which I'd rather not do, since I won't be able to fit an after-market air cooler in this case, and I'd rather that be an option, or get a sketchy cheapo ATX motherboard. (Joking, of course.) The used parts market is pretty much out of the question, since it's next to nonexistent in my country, and I won't be getting anything that was made this decade, unless I buy from a friend or family member, almost none of which are really PC gamers and/or enthusiasts or selling either way. Other than that, same cons as the Athlon, really, so not much I do care about. Question is, based on the rest of my system, listed bellow, do I really need the extra power, compared to the Athlon? Think not. -Pentium G3258 Pros: Upgradablity. It's a strong one, although I did say I'm willing to disregard it. This is an 1150 chip, which is where I'm seeing myself eventually ending up at, although I'll probably opt for a newer skylake processor later on, if I go for AMD now, which is why I'm willing to disregard this in the first place. Greatly overclockable. Great price, coming in at 75€, leaving me plenty of breathing room for a better case, although I'm pretty happy with the one I've picked out, or even getting an aftermarket cooler and OCing right away, rather than a couple months down the line at best. Cons: Dual core. I am going to play newer titles on this, and even some current-gen games won't run on dual-cores. I can benefit from multi-threaded work, so the fact that it doesn't even have 4 threads, let alone cores, makes me double and triple think about it. -other intel options in my price range are all dual-cores which are slightly better, or in some cases worse, than my current CPU, let alone being locked, overclock wise, leading me to not even consider them, although somebody could theoretically drive me away from this opinion, so I will add it as an option. I'm not going for anything close to 4k or everything cranked up @ 1080p, since I'm more of a performance guy, and willing to heavily sacrifice looks for 60 FPS. 720p or lower settings @ 1080p is acceptable, while not ideal, in my honest opinion, so I don't mind it. I'm going for good performance on a very low budget, not, to quote linus "l33t haxor FPSs" at 8k displays (For now). Quite honestly, I've had this CPU for a little over 4 and a half years, and its served its purpose well, but, right now, it is driving me 'round the bend, so I am opting for a quick-and-dirty solution, rather than waiting till the summer to get something better. Basically, I am willing to borderline waste 150€ to get something good right now, rather than wait and get something great in a few months. I cannot stretch this enough. I am all but done waiting, but could theoretically be convinced otherwise, so do try if you think waiting really is worth it. I am also going for a RAM upgrade in the fairly near future, so I'll need to wait quite a while for a good i5. I am a very indecisive person, stuck in a very decision oriented problem, so, for that reason, I reach out to you, fellow PC gamers, enthusiasts and the such! Current specs: CPU: Intel Pentium G620 dual core @2.60GHz GPU: Sapphire Dual-x r9 270x 2G D5 RAM: 2x2GB DDR3 1333MHz Storage: 1TB HDD 7200RPM (SSD boot drive in plans, but not priority right now) PSU: Corsair VS Series 650 W 80+ Bronze A few words about the system before I sign this off. First off, the graphics card is new, so it's not going anywhere for a good 3 or 4 years. I still have my old 5700, which won't be needed when the system is re-purposed, so can/should I crossfire it, now that I'm getting an ATX motherboard? Note that that is not the reason I'm getting ATX. It's mostly personal preference that leveraged my decision here. I just like how an ATX combined with a larger tower looks. Expansion options are just a bonus I'm more than glad for. Now, I did know the CPU would severely bottleneck the card when I bought it. I knew I was going to get a new CPU in the near future, so I just didn't bother with it. Thanks in advance for your help, and apologies for the long post. -LukeSykpe