Kroftyy

Ok, I think you have convinced me. Haswell with the 390 it is

I just feel like the SKYLAKE build will be more 'future proof' (yes, I know some hate this word), especially in terms of the MOBO, CPU etc, which won't likely need an upgrade for a number of years. I guess it comes down to upgrading the GPU first with build 2, or upgrading the CPU, MOBO and ram first with build 1

It's not just CPU though. It's also RAM, storage, a better MOBO and more update parts in general, while still having a fairly solid GPU. I just don't know...

First, let me get some info out of the way. This will be my first desktop PC, and I want it to be perfect. I live in Australia, and my budget is $1550 AUD, give or take. The PC will be primarily for gaming, and currently, I am playing things such as CSGO and LoL on my laptop, leaving the AAA games to my Xbone. While I want this new PC to play these less-taxing games, I also want it to play AAA games at a solid graphic settings with 50-60 FPS preferably. Also, all the parts are from MWAVE. This is the way I want to order my parts. Yes, I know it could be cheaper if I go to multiple vendors, but please keep it this way. Finally, I ask you not only to look at the GPU, but the PC as a whole. What benefits does one provide over the other? Are they expandable in the future? What is the performance like? Don't just look at gaming performance, but rather, performance as a whole. I know the 390 is better. But overall, what is going to provide the best experience on all avenues. Without further ado, the builds: PCPartPicker part list: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/37mcD3 Price breakdown by merchant: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/37mcD3/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($287.99 @ Mwave Australia) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($115.00) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.00 @ Mwave Australia) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.00) Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($519.00 @ Mwave Australia) Case: Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($142.00) Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.00) Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($19.00 @ CPL Online) Monitor: LG 23MP47HQ 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($200.00) Total: $1560.99 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-26 21:49 AEST+1000 Build 2: PCPartPicker part list: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/XZw2sY Price breakdown by merchant: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/XZw2sY/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($301.00 @ Mwave Australia) Motherboard: ASRock B150M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($142.00) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($114.99 @ Mwave Australia) Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.00 @ Mwave Australia) Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 4GB Nitro Video Card ($335.00) Case: Fractal Design Arc Mini R2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($142.00) Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.00) Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($19.00 @ Mwave Australia) Monitor: LG 23MP47HQ 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($200.00) Other: NZXT lighting ($20.00) Total: $1536.99 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-26 21:47 AEST+1000 The differences: CPU: Build 1 has an inferior CPU. It is Haswell compared to Skylake. MOBO: Both use a pretty standard mATX mobo with a nice amount of features. Memory: Both have 8GB of memory, but build two has DDR4-2133 compared to the DDR3-1600 of build one. Storage: Build one uses a 1TB HDD. I might be able to get an SSD in the future, but it could be a pain to move stuff over. Build two has a 240GB SSD only. If I went this route, I would definitely get a HDD within the month, but this way will mean I won't need to transfer an OS or anything. GPU: The BIG difference. Build 1 has a much better GPU than Build 2. A 390 compared to a 380. Case: Same case on both. PSU/WIFI: Same parts. No big deal here. Monitor: Same monitor. Extras: Build two has some nice ambient lighting. I think its cool I know this is a big post, but I really appreciate the time some of you will (hopefully) take to read through this and give some feedback. I know Build 1 is going to perform better in games, but remember I am only at 1080p. I also want the computer to operate quick, and while I know they both will, I feel that Build 2 will be more of an all around build rather than gaming focused. This makes me lean forwards 2. Thanks a bunch, Kroftyy

Yeah I have a modem/router here as well. Issue is this: my computer will be in my room. The router is connected in a cupboard across the hall. The main hall of the house. I can't exactly have a cord running across it.

The 280x isn't readily available in Australia. Hardly anywhere has it stocked anymore. I would get a Z series and K CPU if my budget allowed it...

Hi guys, Firstly, let's get some basics out of the way. This PC will be an upgrade for me from my current laptop. I'm building it primarily for gaming. The main game I play is League of a Legends, as well as other non taxing games such as Minecraft, Diablo 3, WoW etc. However, I would also like it to play AAA games. The state of my current laptop has meant I have played all recent titles on my Xbox rather than PC. My budget is $1500 AUD. I understand this budget can include a nice graphics card such as a 390 or 970, but I have opted to go the cheaper 380 so that other parts are of higher quality, where I would of had to cheap out if going with a better card. I believe this way is better as it means all parts are on par, and the GPU can be upgraded in the future. For now, I only plan on playing on the one 1080p monitor. Here is the build I have so far: PCPartPicker part list: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/k4Hd7P Price breakdown by merchant: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/k4Hd7P/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($266.00 @ IJK) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97-GAMING 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.00 @ IJK) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.00 @ IJK) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.00 @ IJK) Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card ($349.00 @ IJK) Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.00 @ PLE Computers) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($135.00 @ CPL Online) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($119.00) Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($19.00 @ IJK) Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" Monitor ($190.00 @ IJK) Other: Antivirus ($15.00) Total: $1489.00 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-04 18:03 AEST+1000 Just a couple notes: Some people have said this PSU is rather crappy... I don't see how this is true, but I don't have much knowledge, so correct me if need be. Also, all parts need to be available at IJK here in Australia, as I am buying from the one shop. In advance, I appreciate any effort put into a response. Thanks, Kroftyy

Guy above me already had his rated so I guess I just post mine? First build, be honest: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/kQYq99

Any recommended pc build tutorials? Apart from that Newegg one...

If I keep the CPU and motherboard like originally suggested, would it be better to upgrade the GPU to a 290? Or is what you suggested fine?

How did you make a better build with a decrease in price? I am confused..

Oh wow, that build looks good. It is better than my original proposed one? I would just have to add 100 to get it made. Also, that build would be over clockable? I would just need an aftermarket cooler...

It's so much stress though. Paying the extra 100 to have it built seems like an alright option... Plus I couldn't really find a tutorial I liked...

They only cost more cause or the building cost (I don't want it build it myself). The reason I picked those more expensive sorts is because Mwave do not offer all parts... EDIT : oh yeah, and because it's AUS

So I have two options: Am I better off going with this pre built from PCCG: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1411&products_id=30616 Which costs 1589 when adding in a monitor, keyboard and wireless card (and shipping) OR Should I get this system I came up with myself, built via Mwave: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/kQYq99 Which costs 1590 including everything?