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okay thats legitimately cool, but the fact you got presented with proof than amd doesnt bottleneck an r9-290 and can sustain 100% gpu usage (without even resorting to res's the card was meant for) and you couldnt see the line before proclaiming its bottlenecking shows your an idiot.

are you blind? are you touchtyping? i think you're missing the evidence i have and that I AM!!!!!!! just seen your rig, why am i even trying. have fun with that cute thing.

get an msi 970 gaming, done intel fanboys will probably convince you to get this though

8320+r9-290 user here no problems sorry. intel fanboyss will never know (cant say users because I am one) [goes back to gaming leaving the intel fanboys to kill the forum]

yeah i wouldnt pay that, see them take me to court and try and argue the case, that might be worth it, hope this makes wan show just so the IPS learn to get thier shit straight. I'm in the UK and i have a 2 meg connection (so usually a download flickers around 150-220kbps though it can crash down to nothing) the only consolation is its a shared sheltered house so its free, free doesnt help when 360p youtube has to buffer for a few seconds and videos on your facebook "home/timeline" that autoplay make it crawl and we're not allowed to run ethernet or get our own internet. 4 more months and ill happily pay for 50 meg virgin.

it depends on the project ive been saying for years that vegas doesnt use the gpu while it'll pin a cpu at 100% however thats because i mostly deal with avi's, a few months back me and my friend tested some mp4 (or maybe mkv, im unsure) files and it maxed his gtx460 while his cpu sat around 20% so it depends on the work you're doing. sony vegas can use both cuda and openCL, should you be wondering adobe photoshop is heavily openCL based.

disable cool n quiet and APM, enable HPC and monitor clock speeds with coretemp or cpu-z. once you're done re-enable cool n quiet, it does work fine with it on if your overclocks stable.

that would be @incarnate, ive said they'll be okay for the most part but ive literally just stopped playing gta5 and with 1080p 0xMSAA i was at 3.7gb of vram but 3.2gb with 2xMSAA lol

because nvidia... the etailers already bought them for a small fortune from nvidia so they need to charge those prices to not make a loss and nvidia fans wi either buy them for that price or they wont. you can get amd cards for allot less because they cost the etailer so much less in the first place they can actually drop the prices and still make some money. my 290 was £350 at launch and is now around £225 so thats like 33% off.

with a 4+1 (or 4+1) vrm like you have on that board 4ghz shouldnt take any effort what so ever. setup -find the cpu vid in core temps and set your voltage to .05 higher -for instance if your vid is 1.325 set yours to 1.375 -turn on HPC mode if you have it in bios -turn off cool n quiet (untill your done then turn it back on) -set your multi to 20x for a start -boot and use cpu-z to monitor your idle voltage and write it down, -your idle voltage should be around what you set in bios but is okay if its a little bit above or below (say 0.025 +/-) -run cinebench and see your load voltage and write that down -if your load voltage is below your idle voltage you need to go into bios and find loadline calibration, turn this up a notch (wether its a higher percentage or wether its from low-medium), reboot and retest, if your load voltage is too load you may blue screen. -keep doing that until your load voltage matches your idle. -your load voltage should not be around 1.5v, it wont damage your chip if it is but its unlikely to be necessary and will results in VRMs throttling which means you're not actually stressing your chip under stress testing. -assuming you can run cinebench stable without braking 65-70*c run it again while watching clock speeds in coretemp, if lots of them all at once drop down to 2250mhz or 1400mhz that means your vrms are likely declocking, (you will also note your cpu temps are very low if this is the case), if this happens to you try reducing voltage or loadline calibration in bios a little. -loadline calibration works exponentially with voltage so 1.2v in bios may give 1.2v at load (so +0.0v) with "medium" loadline, but with "high" loadline may give 1.3 (so +.1v) 1.25v in bios with medium loadline might give 1.27v at load (so +.02v) but "high" loadline might give you 1.35v under load (so +.15v), you need to balance them by turning the bios voltage up and down (taking notes) and loadline up and down (taking notes), it sounds really complicated but it isnt its just noticing how it affects things and knowing this helps makes troubleshooting instability and problems allot easier and make it safer too. testing run cinebench and if it passes put the multi another higher. keep doing that until it fails and then turn it 2 or so multi's back. then use amd overdrive stress test which takes an hour, assuming you have an overclock now of 4.3ghz or whatever (may be more, may be less) you can be happy or try pushing further, 4.5ghz is plenty fast enough (525ish cinebench on an fx6 and 700ish for an fx8) and the voltages required to go higher usually start to increase temps into haswell territory. thats my quick and dirty method ive developed over the last 4 or 5 years since i started overclocking phenoms and then fx's. it doesnt matter what fx you have the process (because the architecture..) is the same. regarding vrms fx4=4+1/4+2: its fine, got for whatever its so cheap its almost disposable. fx6=4+1/4+2: dont push to over 4.5ghz unless you're at stupidly low volts like 1.3, 4 easy, 4.5ghz should be the limit, 4.5ghz and 1.4v is probably the max a 4+2 board can handle, if you require more voltage dont risk it and settle for 4.4ghz 1.375v or something. fx6=6+2vrm (msi 970 gaming etc): 4.5ghz easy, again beyond 4.5-4.6 voltages go up, you wont kill your chip or board but at 4.5-4.6ghz your cpu will last YEARS so dont worry about it, do it then get gaming! fx6=8+2vrm (gigabyte 970a ud3p etc) you should of got the msi 970 gaming board OR if you ahve a 990fx chipset the money should of been spent on an fx8, this is overkill. fx8=4+1vrm: it'll run but undervolting is usually a great idea to reduce vrm stress, low vid chips work fine but dont overclock (though ive done 3.5ghz at 1.25v on an 8320 and m5a78l-m/usb) fx8=6+2 vrm (so msi 970 gaming), ive had mine to 5ghz and cinebench r15 790 score (unstable) at 4.95ghz on this combo, for daily use i recommend no higher than 4.5ghz as pointed out above. while possible the increased voltages and temps aren't worth the extra 200mhz, if it has a vrm heatsink dont worry, a hyper 212 evo is a great cheap bundle for this. fx8=8+2vrm (gigabyte 970a-ud3p, m5a99x evo r2 etc) skys the limit and if you want to run 4.7-4.8ghz+ you can but this will usually (but not always) a big cooler or h100i or something. i personally just rest easy at 4.5 knowing my temps are in the 60's under stress and 45Ic ish gaming and will work fine for the next 5 years if it has to. you're welcome

its 1680x1050, ive had 2 and they're great super cheap because theyre not "1080p" which is all console gamers and "non-techies" understand. yet its 1.75mp and 1080p is 2.07mp (so its85% of 1080p) so its not far off, you lose a little bit of vertical resolution (30 pixels) and a bit of side resolution (240 pixels) hence its 16:10 and not 16:9. 1080p's great however if your not good with setting up resolutions in games and dont set the aspect ratio to 16:10 getting a 1080p monitor might just be easier, is it noticably better? no. its not like the differecne between 1080p and 1440p.

in single threaded games yes, in multi threaded games, no. same is true for everything yet people dont get this.

I drive to the ponsbys just south east of micheals house (in his audi) drive down to teh end of the road, loop around, drive back up, turn around at the intersection above and then skid into the parking space outside, I get highs of 68ish fps with lows working down to 50fps but averaging 59/60, the game looks freakin' beautiful!!! if i could get a 4k 50in tv with DP or HDMI2.0 on the cheap id do it. Non-gta5 drivers fx8320@4.5ghz 45-50% cpu usage suckers.. 16gb kingston beast 2400 msi r9-290 twin frozr at 1000/1250 using 3.2gb of vram click on them then open in new tab to see more detail

mostly right except the 270 is actually around 150w hence the single 6 pin and most 750tis will be under the 75w supplied by the pcie slot hence the lack of a 6 pin (on most). op-linus said bf4 is probably one of the best benchmarks so id personally take the average fps of those cards when overclocked to 90% of thier limit then divide the fps by the price. edit- if this is anything to go by the 270 should blow past the 750ti which kind of makes sense because the 750ti rivals the 7790/260x, the 270 has much more vram and memory bandwidth for pretty much the same cost. edit-edit- wow thats a 750 not a ti, they dont even compete, the 750 is about 80% of a 750ti so take 750ti results and multiply by .8

cool, that 35*c sound wierd though it might be a wrong sensor, download speccy and try that, ive never had it get a wrong sensor or reading. then configure the core temp sensor to what speccy says

if you dont want to mess with a wifi dongle get this, built in wifi AC 983Mbit or something, DUAL ethernet ports. http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-z87i-ac-intel-z87-mini-itx-s1150-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-30-(x16)-dp-dvi-hdmi-wifi-ac if you want to use aftermarket cooling for the cpu without interfering with the gpu get this, only has 2 sata ports though. http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-h81i-plus-intel-h81-s-1150-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-pcie-20-(x16)-d-sub-dvi-d-hdmi-mini-itx and put this in it, http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-pentium-k-g3258-lga-1150-haswell-dual-core-32ghz-clock-1100mhz-gpu-32x-ratio-cpu-retail ive done it, and cpu was nowhere near as good as everyone makes out, its half a 4690k for 1/4 of the price which sounds great but in modern titles it bottlenecks allot with both cores pinned HOWEVER for what you're doing itll be great. edit- tf2 isnt demanding you can do that on onboard with kabini and this.

no need for a cooler, i had a 5150 (1.6ghz) ran a 125fsb so it was at 2ghz on stock volts (like 1.2 or something) with the silent cooler, was a great little platform, the gpu gets overclocked with the cpu so from 600mhz it should of been around 750mhz. 4gb stick of ram i got second hand, tried my r9-290 in it but it wouldnt let it boot, ran great with my r9-270 though. single threaded games wont be great as its like a slow pentium dual core however even on IGPU it loved grid and bioshock infinate. it really is a great system, i only sold it (for cost) to finance my g3258 itx rig, it cost twice as much but has twice the power...

other than tnhat id suggest a super cheap itx 1150 board with a celeron and whatever gpu op can find cheap.

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