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I argue aggressively here. Being that I have argued plenty coupled with the fact I am human, I am sometimes wrong. When I do get proven wrong, I apologize... then thank the individual that corrected me. I see this as easy and, in my case, lazy. Many here are smarter than me in many areas, and use patience to carefully argue their points. I would recommend following that path, as I try to do... sometimes unsuccessfully.

okay

Sometimes you gotta just say: What's the point? ...and let people vent. Better here, than "out there".

I am so tempted.

I would go with a 2x16GB kit instead of a 4x8GB kit. AMD's Ryzen IMC is not performing that well and having four sticks of RAM will not perform as well as just having two sticks. Ryzen is only dual channel capable, so there is absolutely no good coming from having more than two sticks... it is actually worse.

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Minecraft?

AMD has confirmed the quad core Ryzen CPUs will be using 2 CCXs, two cores per; of course, the hex cores will be the same config as well: 3+3. The Infinity Fabric will be used on all Ryzen CPUs. I mention this because the author in the vid states otherwise, as a prediction.

No problem, it is just a suggestion.

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Hmmm, should be interesting to see if 2x16GB has frequency limitations due to rank interleaving... or how much 8GB sticks would suffer in dual rank mode (when possible) Damn you go way back. I did not know the memory performance was comparatively bad back then.

It is really hard to tell what a new gen will bring though, even if past gens were lacking. That is the entire point of making changes, to improve.

Rank-Interleaving is used in 8GB capacity sticks and up, right? I did not even know that Ryzen was having trouble with that.

They might not get "fixed" it for a while... they might not get done it until the next CPU launch (Zen2/whatever). It has to be a concern for them. The vid was showcasing less than what we already know on these forums. You know IMCs better than I. I still have hope that the IMC can be fixed, if not... 2DPC is the only way to get the most out of the platform.

If you lose 10% gaming performance for 40% less cost... that is kind of a win when you take this level of performance into relative consideration. Please note, we don't have exact benchmarks for the R5/R3 line ups yet.

Than a 7700K, yes. It is also 40%-50% cheaper.

If you have a 1920x1080 monitor, you might want to drop back down to a GTX 1070 and grab a 2560x1440 IPS panel. If you wait for the 11th of April, you might be able to save some cash by getting a R5 1400.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/ybrcCJ/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gtzr

Nanosuits has a 3200MHz kit for the same price... I missed it.

Wow ^^^ very nice.

Well, $5 more gets him much faster RAM... with RGB. He has not planned all that well. Good thing he is posting here.

Don't you stare at your tower most of the time?

Why the slow RAM? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/sHQRsY/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f4-3000c15d-16gtzr

Haven't watched it yet, but:

Yes... ....and no.