Vinicius.Gogola

I'm really want to start playing my game with a gaming mouse, I'm kind of tired of using my Microsoft wireless 4000 series (which is a good mouse, but not ideal for gaming, especially when it run out of battery). So please choose me.

The first Intel to use eDRAM was haswell. The one who used in higher lithography was IBM. http://www.realworldtech.com/intel-dram/2/ And until the Iris 6200 shows up AMD had the best iGPU. And with HDL AMD tried to make the best they could to improve the perf/watt they could with the CMT architecture. We gotta to wait and see how AMD will respond of this and it probably will be with the next CPU architecture.

I agree with these points, but what about the extra size of the eDRAM? Intel first eDRAM on mobile was in the I7 of 4th generation (22nm) and now on I5 and I7 of 5th generation (14nm) and AMD still using 28nm right? In a simple math if they had the same amount of transistors and architecture the AMD APU would be at least ~28% larger (against the 4th generation) and ~100% larger (against the 5th generation) so this is make it harder to add this type of technology, so they choose to and more Stream Processor and use faster ram. I think that AMD should use this type of resource on their ZEN APU by the end of 2016 and beginning of 2017, which is rumored to be 14nm finfet. This is a little to much, but who knows one or two HBM2 memory on the desktop line.

I had forgot about the turbo sustain, and I just compared the portable I5 (all of them are 2C/4T). In my opinion what really make the difference is the eDRAM. I was searching about results and comparisons of the 6200, and it should have a better result that carrizo but it should stay close. At least on less demanding CPU and more GPU oriented application. Based on: 1- The info of notebookcheck were says that the 6200 should have similar results of gt940m (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Pro-Graphics-6200.125593.0.html) 2- Tomshardware review of the I7-5775C and I5-5675C gaming result on GTA V (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-5775c-i5-5675c-broadwell,4169-6.html) 3- Comparison of the results in the 3dmark 11 performance of the configurations: GT940m (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9800463) R7 250 + X4 860k (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9387595) GTX 750 + X4 860k (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9796102)¹ "Carrizo" (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9453670)* "Iris 6100" (http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9751793)* * result not validated ¹ I picked the result of a GTX750 1Gb and without OC This analyses is not the best, but is the better I could make with the info that I found.

True but I'm not sure if the difference on the TDP is just based on the clock of the IGPU, because the iris 6000 are 15w, the 6100 are 28w (only 50Mhz) and the 6200 are 47w (and have the same clock of 6100) info based on the Intel ARK. I don't think the difference of 400Mhz on the CPU clock justify adding 19w on the TDP. So probably they have different number of execution units (the name that Intel use for they graphics core).

Just to make a quick comparison between the new Intel graphics here are to results of 3D mark 11 performance. Note that both are not validated, but still online. 1- AMD FX-8800P (Carrizo probably 35w ): P2645 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9453670 2- Intel 5257U (Iris 6100 28w): P1972 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9751793 This is not the best comparison, but as far I know is the only apples to apples comparison available at the moment.

I want this, I hava one xperia ZL.