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TLDR: Successfully applied Arctic Silver 5 and Arctic Thermal Pads to eliminate thermal throttling on MSI GS65 8RE gaming laptop. I have an MSI GS65 8RE Stealth Thin gaming laptop (i7-8750H, GTX 1060) which has suffered from thermal throttling ever since it was purchased in 2018. It's an old model and there are plenty of reviews so I won't get into any further details or comments about build quality, difficulty of upgrade and so on. Of course, if anyone reading this has any specific questions, please feel free to ask and I'll be happy to answer. To solve the thermal throttling problem, I first tried the following "non-invasive" measures with varying degrees of success but the problem was not eliminated; nor was I satisfied having paid for a moderately top-tier hardware package only to limit its capabilities in order to use it for its intended purpose. - Turning off Hyper Threading - Turning off Tubro Boost - Undervolting - Turbo Boost frequency limiting - Package power limiting During heavy gaming (I'm saying "heavy" relative to the performance capacity of this particular hardware) such as Jedi Fallen Order on "Epic" 1080p graphics settings, the CPU would hit 93C with the fans sounding like a 747 during takeoff. HWiNFO showed sustained thermal throttling with the CPU frequency hovering around 2.7Ghz whereas the i7-8750H is rated up to 4.1Ghz boost (2.2Ghz base). Cinebench R20 benchmark scores were hovering around 2250 (average of 3 consecutive runs). Obviously, I did not expect this 17.9mm-thick laptop to be equipped with a cooling solution that can handle the heat dissipation requirements of an i7-8750H processor at its specified 90W, 4.1Ghz boost power limit and frequency, respectively. I would settle for a sustained boost anywhere above 3.0Ghz at its Intel-designated TDP-down power limit of 35W, without thermal throttling being activated. I think that's a fair expectation for hardware at this price point. Having opened the laptop before for SSD and RAM upgrades, I was familiar with its internals. I had also read a lot of users complaining about thermal throttling and claiming they were able to fix it with a re-paste of the heat sink fan rig. So I took the plunge and re-pasted the HSF with Arctic MX-4 thermal compound. Ensuring proper contact upon replacement of the cooling hardware on the motherboard and taking care to not bend or twist any part of it, I closed up the laptop and booted. No improvement. I was disappointed, to say the least, and I began to regret my purchase. That was last year. Fast-forward to the present and I came across a post where a user had not only re-pasted the CPU and GPU but also replaced the thermal pads on the VRAM and other surrounding components. I decided to give it one last shot. I opened it up (this is an achievement by itself, just look up a teardown video), cleaned up the old paste, applied new paste and replaced the thermal pads. This time I used Arctic Silver 5 and Arctic Thermal Pads (1.5mm thick). I also did something that may be frowned upon: I replaced all thermal pads, regardless of stock pad thickness (which varied from 0.5mm to 1mm and 2mm in one area) with 1.5mm and a 1.5+1.5mm thermal pad sandwich for the 2mm. To make sure that the copper parts of the HSF rig were properly making contact with the CPU and GPU, I carefully placed the HSF rig back over the motherboard and held it in place without the screws. Then I meticulously squished each of the thermal pads where they were too thick, causing a gap between the other contact points. Now the HSF was sitting flat on the CPU and GPU. Next I slowly removed the HSF rig ensuring not to let the thermal pads peel off or shift. After applying the thermal compound on the CPU and GPU, I again placed the HSF rig back on and screwed it in place. I had extra thermal pad left over so I placed one on top of what looked like the PCH (maybe?), as well as beneath and above the two NVMe SSDs and on both RAM sticks. After closing up carefully ensuring all the cables and screws were securely in place, I booted up and ran Cinebench R20. To my absolute and complete delight, the core temp value reported by HWiNFO did not exceed 84C. By the way, I had a stable undervolt of -155mV already set, which obviously helped. The machine sustained a boost frequency around 3.3Ghz at 35W power limit and resulted in an average Cinebench score of 2460 over three consecutive runs. Other than undervolt and power limit, there are no other performance/heat limiting settings enabled. For good measure, I also ran Prime95 stress test and Unigine Heaven graphics benchmark to check system stability. All checked out. Temperatures did not exceed 84C. I want to clarify that this was in a non-AC room where the ambient was around 24C which is on the warm side of comfortable. Needless to say, thermal performance would be even better in a cooler environment. The Nvidia GTX 1060 hits 90C running Heaven benchmark on Extreme preset but the CPU caps out at 71C. The fans are loud, which is to be expected, but they run noticeably quieter than before. For reference, the max fan speed set in MSI Dragon Center is 65% for CPU and 75% for GPU. I hope this helps anyone else facing similar problems. And as I said earlier, if anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask!
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So I'm trying to create the hyrbid cooling concept on my custom DIY cooling for my gaming laptop because of the high ambient temperature on my country (Running at over 90C plus at 25W+). The concept being a radiator is in a closed enclosure with ventilation holes while that radiator is connected to the heatsink that will directly touch the heatsink of the gaming laptop to cool it effectively (yes I know I have to make some mods to the bottom casing of the laptop and maybe even the actual heatsink of the laptop) I think its possible to do. Think of the idea as a concept in a box with a 120MM AIO or something like that connected to another heatsink that touches the actual gaming laptop that can be attached and detached in a quick and easy way to fight ambient temperatures whilst still being portable. (Ill also run some CPU heatsink simulations if it helps).
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I currently have an HP omen 15 with ryzen 7 5800h & rtx 3060, it performs great, until 2 weeks ago when the CPU started to instantly spike to 100°C when I try to game on it, the gpu is fine, the cpu is the problem even sitting at idle it hovers around 45~70 degrees, which I find worrying, I replaced the thermal paste on both the GPU and CPU, and it seems only the GPU as gained something from it, the CPU hasn't from some reason. the Laptop still performs great, it even games great, but the instant spiking to around 100°C when trying to game or deploying virtual machines is not normal as far as I know. I am looking to buy a New gaming laptop unless I can find a fix to this overheating issue, which OEM has the best cooling system? budget is around 1500 usd
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Now with laptops have limited cooling but I found that optical drives can be replaced with hard drives with a attachment. But what if some one made a optical drive fan attachment. I recently found a optical drive replacement with a fan and m.2 slot. I wonder if this would give me some better temps and add the edition on having a faster form of storage but I don't know if this will work with my laptop. My laptop is a MSI GE70 2PE Apache Pro. I'm really just curious to see if this would even work https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Cooling-Radiator-Enclosure-Replacement/dp/B083J6HDJG/ref=pd_sbs_1/147-5577506-8219344?pd_rd_w=aW5jA&pf_rd_p=8b76d7a7-ab83-4ddc-a92d-e3e33bfdbf03&pf_rd_r=9JEABC3T1S2X8Y9GDXPC&pd_rd_r=fc8e9aa1-e8f8-426c-9670-6499d5eefb58&pd_rd_wg=MOaXo&pd_rd_i=B083J6HDJG&psc=1
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Hey Everyone! So, I have a 2019 Sager (Clevo) laptop with an i7-9750h and an RTX 2060, 32g ram. I bought this last year for video editing and web design, with plans to be able have my work space be relatively mobile. Obviously, with the world as it is, I haven't gone anywhere for the last 6 months, and now my laptop is almost completely stationary, and it seems that it will stay this way. Now, this machine was not designed to be quiet. Its a pretty powerful machine that performs well, and while I'm doing heavy work loads, I usually have my headphones on which blocks the noise. However, several times a week, I use my computer for video meetings, and I cant have my headphones on for these. During these meetings, I have my video brought in through OBS, then into zoom, with Nvidia broadcast handling my mic audio. This usually puts my CPU at about 15-20%, and my GPU at 10% (Second monitor hooked up). My fans will usually ramp to 30-50%, which isn't bad, but is distracting when I'm in a mostly quiet meeting trying to focus. My goal is to improve cooling over all, but specifically so it can run quieter during low /medium usage. Obviously, the best way to have good cooling on a laptop is to sell it and get a desktop, but that's not an option for me, so I have a few questions for y'all. I'm an enthusiast, but still new to a lot of this, so I apologize if these seem stupid. Would there be a real benefit to repasting? If I did re-paste, would going liquid metal pose more risks on a laptop? Are they worth it? I'm thinking of making a DIY cooling pad. On my laptop, its almost completely vented on the bottom, with vents out the back and sides of the chassis. I've seen that the general consensus on most cooling pads is that they don't do much, but I can make a cooling pad that would have static pressure, not just blowing at the shell. I essentially would just use some foam strips on the pad top make a seal when I set the laptop on the pad. The idea is same or greater air flow, just with bigger, quieter fans. I cant think of any reason it would, but could positive air pressure damage the laptop at all? Sorry for the longer post, but I appreciate your thoughts and inputs here. Thanks!
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I have a RB14 2021 model. Testing with ambient temperature of 23C During light to idle usage the laptop temp averages 46C with the cooling pad off. When the cooling pad is on the temp somehow increases to 54C. Whereas when gaming with the cooling pad on the temp drop is noticeable by a difference of 8-9C. Anyone can explain this weird behaviour? Also I am fully aware that the laptop is working in safe limits I'm just interested in this weird behaviour.
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I purchased an Acer Nitro 5 (2018 GTX 1050) as my first laptop a little over a year ago and it has been great. Though, while under heavy load, it gets quite hot, as the cooling setup is not the best, but I have tolerated it for a while, not experiencing too many slow downs in games. Recently, I have started running a Folding@Home Client on it and have noticed it gets up to 97 Celsius. I have noticed that it gets pretty hot while gaming, but not often over 90 Celsius. At one point, I noticed in task manager it reporting a clock of around 1.7 GHz, which having a base clock of 2.3 GHz seems kind of concerning. So I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations for a laptop cooling solution. It doesn't have to be portable, as although I use this laptop for school, I rarely play games on it there as the battery sucks and the performance drops significantly. I have seen a lot of suggestions to reapply thermal paste, which is a solid idea, though I do not really have the experience to do so at the moment or someone who could help, as of the whole quarantine thing. I do plan on looking into it in the future, as I will probably be using this laptop for the next year or 2. I also saw that cleaning the dust will help, which I somehow never thought of and will do. But, I know that the cooling setup on this laptop is not great, so I figured I would invest in something extra. Any suggestions on a cooling pad or some other solution? Thanks.
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Hi all, I have a ROG G750JX and I am looking into upgrading the cooling system, either it be by upgrading the fans or by building, chopping and changing the parts. I would like to know has anyone heard, seen or done anything like this before? I am having trouble finding information on this idea. Information is power, so more is better in this case hahahaha
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Hello all, I've got a 5 year old gaming laptop that needs a laptop cooler to sit on, its a 17" clevo p170hm i7 2820 16 GB 1600mhz RAM Nvidia 680M 4gb GPU intel 510 250GB SSD not bad for 5 years I'm from the UK btw any suggestions for a cheap one as a father of 3 and I'm a injuried ex serviceman so I have little money for the latest and greatest with bells a whistles thanks Gavin Brierley,
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So i have an ASUS K501U and it was really nice when i bought it but now it heats so freaking much it is absurd. The specs are an i7-6500U, NVIDIA GTX950M, 8GB ddr3L 1633MHZ (not sure) and 1TB 7200rpm hard drive. When im on idle my laptop is chilled (around 50ºC CPU), but when i go gaming it reaches 70-80ºC and this is weird because i have a laptop cooling stand from cooler master (ergostand 3) and even when i Incline it the temps dont lower they just stay the same. The computer has 1 year. Do you think it has gathered a lot of dust inside? I really want to open and see but im afraid to void the warranty if I do it you know. If you can give me any more tips on how to keep my laptop cool please do it.
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Hey guys! I have browsed almost the entire internet I guess, and still no luck!!! I am looking for a RGB Laptop Cooling Solution!! Can anyone help me find one! Again, its important that its RGB or at least i need it to have white and blue and be able to choose between them
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Hi all, I recently purchased Lenovo's IdeaPad 720s 13. It's the Ryzen 5 model. There are two reasons why I bought it, the specs and the price. The specs are unbeatable at the price which was $494 US. When researching it, I came across people having issues getting it to bench what the hardware suggests it should bench at. There are two theories. One was that the RAM is single channel and therefore causing issues with the CPU/GPU in performance. The other was that it has a hard ceiling at 71 C, which it then begins to throttle and will not stop throttling until rebooted or cooldown. There's not much I can do about the RAM, but I feel I can definitely look into this temp ceiling. So I'm thinking about tackling the following things. 1. There must be something either on the motherboard or the Bios that's throttling the CPU/GPU at 71 C. 2. I'm going to look at the heatsink performance, fit and probably re-paste it, although I'm not really confident in applying liquid metal to it. 3. I saw on the HP Spectre that they used insulation around the Fans so that the only air it pulled in was through the vents. I'll also look into the make and model of the fans to see if there's anything better out there. Anyways. I'll put my findings in here and if anyone who happens to read this has any input, that would be great! Proto.
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Hi I have a cooler master u3 plus cooling pad. On youtube, I saw a guy modifying his u3 plus with two noctua desktop fans. Im thinking of doing the same, but i just have one concern. I assume these desktop fans are quite powerful, and so im wondering if this powerful airflow from the noctua fans could somehow mess with the internal fans of my laptop?
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Hello i am kinda new here so hello again i got this gl502vm 7th gen laptop and its amazing even with crippled cooler that i did break unintentionally so as in the picture the number 1 is missed in the number 2 so it cant make a full contact with the cpu making core1 hotter than the others and uneven cooling the quastion here is anybody have any idea how to fix this one ? and mods or type of screws that would help ? thank you in advance
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Okay, so im trying to beef up a 7-8 year old laptop with my old desktop air cooler (hyper T4 EVO), is there a way for me to power a desktop fan in a laptop? and it is 4pin(and i have where ill ziptie and put some copper on the other components that need to be cooled) thanks for your help, except for that guy that knows what to do but wants to watch the struggle, screw that guy
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I'm planning to trick out my Acer v3-574G laptop and the one thing that stuff bothers me is the laptop's cooling capacity. I was planning to add another heatpipe from eBay but, from experience, bending heat pipes isn't really that easy considering it explodes. What other mods can you suggest to lower temps aside from AS5 paste and cutting a hole on the case? Gut pic attached. I was actually planning on using a copper rod instead of a copper heat pipe for ease of work, running it beside the existing heat pipe, and drilling a hole on the heat sink fan fins to also cool down the copper rod. How effective do you think this WI be?
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I need to find a way to keep my laptop cool. I live in the Bahamas and Summer is approaching. At 7:30pm the room temp is between 32C-33C, so yeah its hot and summer isn't here yet. In the evening while browsing the web with a few tabs open and streaming a 720p youtube video, cpu load bobbles around 30%-40% with a temp of about 88C. If i attempt to do any serious processing temps quickly shoot up to 95C and the laptop shuts down shortly after. right now to keep temps down i have a ductless air condition aimed at the laptop and turned down to 16C. this keep temps between 60C-80C only hitting 87C momentarily when maxed out. This is very expensive and i need a cheaper solution. I have tried propping up my laptop, blowing it out with compressed air and cheap laptop coolers but they don't do much. Im currently running a Samsung q530, first gen i5, 8GB ram and western digital Black2 dual drive. thanks in advance for any tips.
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Hi i'm from Sri Lanka. I bought a laptop from USA in 2012 December lenovo idea-pad y580. which has GTX660m and i7 3630QM cpu. when turbo boost on it cpu temp goes around 95C and then cpu automatically down clock to 2.4GHz to avoid overheating at that rang temp stays well around 75C, when gaming GPU goes around 82C at 950MHz and then it down clocked to 835MHz to avoid heating which then stays around 75C. i recently change my thermal paste, i used Artic Silver 5. After that CPU and GPU stays well below 70C at max clock which is 3.2GHZ cpu and 950MHz gpu. But now it's about 4 months i have changed my thermal paste. and the temps again goes to worse. and both cpu and gpu automatically down cocked to reduce the temps. i'm planing to change my thermal paste. I need a good thermal paste which should constant at least 1 year, other wise I may have to replace thermal compound every 4 months. Any idea of a good constant thermal paste? and is there are different thermal paste for gpu and cpu? and do i have to change the thermal pad's on gpu memory modules? is there a brand to those thermal pads? thanks a lot