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Thanks for the answer! =)

Hey! I tried looking up the solution to this question, but didn't really get a good answer to it. The question, very simple: Which radiator is more effective (if fans & price) are not a concern: 27mm with ~20-22FPI or 38mm with ~14-15FPI (Both 360mm)? More details: When looking for an AIO, I didn't even think about factors like thickness and FPI of the radiator at all. I thought that - basically - any AIO would perform pretty much the same (if one would use the same fans). So any ROG AIO would perform probably the same as, say, an Arctic Liquid Freezer II, if both would run 3 or 6 Fans of Noctuas. Different Pumps probably result in different results. Given that Artic and Corsair use different pumps than the standard Asetek Pumps, they probably would give different results (You get the idea, I hope). So when taking a look at the radiator, most AIOs feature a common 27mm radiator thickness with an FPI of ~20-22. At least the ones I checked & compared. The one I was interested in was the ROG Ryujin II. Researching online showed me that the Arctic Liquid Freezer II features a 38mm radiator thickness (which obviously is significantly thicker, I'd say). But it features a lower FPI count (~14-15). That's only logical, as the thicker and denser it gets, the more powerful the fans have to be. I did not find any thread online that answers the question. Ignoring the Fans, and (probably) the Pump, does a 27mm thick radiator with an FPI of ~20-22 perform better than a 38mm thick radiator with an FPI of ~14-15 - when having excellent radiator fans (I'm going to give the Noctuas as an example, don't know which model exactly is the highest performing for radiators. Or take the Phanteks T30 as an example, they do the trick as well). Alternative question: Which AIO performs better (generally spoken), given either 3 or 6 Fans of (example) Phanteks T30 or Noctuas in standard or push/pull config: Ryujin II (360mm) or Arctic Liquid Freezer II (360mm)? Both Products: ASUS ROG Ryujin II: https://rog.asus.com/us/cooling/cpu-liquid-coolers/rog-ryujin/rog-ryujin-ii-360-model/ Arctic Liquid Freezer II: https://www.arctic.de/en/products/cooling/cpu-cooler/cpu-water-cooler/ Disclaimer: I know that money-wise, the Ryujin II (even more with custom fans) is a huge money waste, but I'm actually more interested in the theoretical answer to this question. I haven't found anything online that compares the standardized 27mm radiator thickness, and it's FPI with other sizes. So, feel free to take any other 27mm radiator-AIO as an example, if that's easier. Also, sorry if some things are quite weird described from my end, English is not my main language, and writing this in English definitely took some minutes... D: =)

Mhm, I understand. Although I have to admit I'd really love such a Power-Draw monitor... Have to see what things will look like in the future or if it's just a temporary phase where I'm too hyped for that thing... But I get your point. Yep, I kind of planned to get the whole thing in somewhat ~1 year or something. So that's why I was like "Well, let's just wait a bit more until everything is released and proven to work relatively stable, and then continue the whole thing and get the new tech"... I would have gone with the G-Skill one, although they'd only fill 2 RAM-Slots. And when you spend a noticeable amount of money on the bling-bling part as well, I wanted to be able to fill the 2 empty-remaining-slots with Dummy-Kits. Sadly, G-Skill doesn't offer any - but Corsair does. So that's kind of a thing where I'm still unsure, especially if I keep in mind the DDR5 Release - which I'm aiming for as well. This whole thing was basically an "Ow, got a lot of free time during quarantine and holidays, so why not spend some time with dreaming of your next build". The PSU, for example, was a thing I couldn't get any further by my own - so I need(ed) some input from others. Really appreciate the feedback tho. Forgive if I don't answer to every feedback to the Build/PSU, I like to lurk a lot rather to post too many answers and lose the main plot of the thread...

That's why I didn't want to bother anyone with it in the first place - because the whole build is still a "plan for a future build" thing. Basically, I went ahead and made a list of a bunch of components, browsing a lot around & improving/finding the best possible components with no matter of price (Except completely unreasonable price like 2080Ti for example - but that's ofc. Subjective). I'm relatively new to this, so I don't really know how to "insert" a PCPP-List, that's why I'll simply list the main components - if that still helps you. CPU = Ryzen 3900X (Will be upgraded with 4000 Series, or with later 5000 Series - whether they actually drop something "new" on the 4000 or just APUs) GPU = RTX 2080 Super MSI Gaming Trio (Will be updated with 3000 Cards once it's released) MOBO = <Insert possible AM5 Socket MOBO> RAM = Corsair's RGB Pro Sticks with 2x16GB Modules (Instead of 4 to boost performance a bit) and sadly no B-Die. Although I don't know how things will look with the DDR5 release. Forgive if I miss any components that'd make the whole thing a bit clearer and easier to understand, I'd love to make a more detailed list later on when there's more to be listed than "temporary components". The estimated-wattage lays at around ~600W (depending on how that will increase with future products after release, that's why it's so theoretical). People usually recommend to directly go to a 750W PSU. And since price doesn't matter *too* much and PSUs tend to have a "somewhat better" efficiency under "lower load", I went with a 850W Unit instead. (Whether it's really noticeable or not in terms of efficiency, I liked the thought)... (I'm a bit biased on this one as jayztwocents -sub ) Let me know if you need anything else. Thanks a lot for the answers regarding the PSU, really made me more confident about it. Would still appreciate further input and opinions on the PSU, ofc. - if there are any. Cheers!

Eyo! Alright, so I - at first - didn't want to make a thread about this and see if I could get the answer for myself without any help. After searching a lot around, browsing in this forum about it as well and not really being able to come to a "good" conclusion that I stand 100% behind, I'll go ahead and do my first post over here. What's the question: Is the "Asus ROG Thor" PSU a worthy opponent for the "HX850i" (Now, please behold of posting "money-wise it isn't, it's massively overpriced" - I know that. Money is not really the problem). Details: To begin with, I plan a build with a lot of bling bling & wow-effects. In terms of PSU, I heard only positive things about Corsair's PSU - like ever. About ROG, well, they sometimes don't get away as good as Corsair. I'm a little biased on basically a lot of bad reviews about their AIO-Coolers, for example. After browsing quite a bit (Although, please forgive that I'm not thaaaat into the whole topic when it comes to PSUs), I found out that the Thor is basically a - by ROG customized - Seasonic PSU (Sorry if that's wrong, my intention is not to spread wrong information, just to learn). Seasonic have quite a good reputation in terms of PSUs - as well as the Corsair. Now, for the Build I don't really care about paying 50€ more for a gimmick that shows me the current power-draw of the whole monster machine. And that's the thing - the OLED-Display of the Thor is basically the major-reason why I'm considering it. An up-faced fan shouldn't be a problem in an open-air case with 10 fans, so that's not a problem either. There isn't any mentionable alternative in terms of having a customizable Display on a PSU - sadly.... (Although I really hope Corsair will get into this "show-power-draw"-thing at some point as well, hardware-wise). The real thing that worries me is if the Thor can quality-wise compete with the Corsair HX850i & if I don't sacrifice quality if I actually end up going with the Thor instead of Corsair's. They're both marked as "Gold"-Tier in the Tier-List, one is single-rail, the other is multi-rail. And the HXi offers a bit more of ports (Again, sorry if that's wrong). But about internal quality - that's the stuff where I'm just unsure. Thanks for reading, I'll provide two links for each PSU if anyone here isn't familiar with those 2 specific models. Appreciate any help I can get, cheers. Corsair's HX850i: https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/hxi-series-config/p/CP-9020073-UK Asus' ROG Thor: https://www.asus.com/uk/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-THOR-850P/