RedaSaiko

Ah ok wow someone is in love with her/his cpu.

Well my first AMD CPU is the 3700x, no problem so far, either in temp or stability. The Pro 2200GE is also super stable in my Unraid, it's a 35w CPU so it runs super cool. I see that you have the 5950x and the NH-D15 black. I have the same cooler, how well does it work with your monster cpu? PS: It's me or the "Alder Lake" comment is an unpleasant ad spam?

Thank you for the input, and sorry for not answering earlier (I have been to the hospital for some tests and got back so tired that I totally forgot to check this post). I decided to go with AMD, ECC support is very important to me, and AMD boards are better in the same price category than Z690. Again thank you for the advice, it really helped me sorting things out guys!

Hi, I know this question as been asked a lot, but my use case is a little different. I am in a huge dilemma right now, I hope you guys will help me with this. Let me give a little intro about my specific use case. It might sound weird, but I have 3 desktop computers...in my room (and I use the 3 of them): Main PC (multitasking, hundreds of chrome tabs, gaming) : R7 3700x - GTX 1080 - 64gb - B550 mobo. Secondary PC (digital art work with cintiq 16 pro, CSP) : i7 8700 - GTX 1070 - 32/48/64 gb (lending some sticks to a friend) - OEM Dell XPS 8930 NAS PC (Unraid): R3 Pro 2200GE - 16gb ECC - B450 mobo (yes ECC is functional!) Actually I have also spare part, I *only ^^* need a mobo + cpu to make a new computer that will replace the Dell I am planning to sell. Unlike a lot of people here, I am not the type to upgrade each year, I like to keep my builds for as long as possible. I am trying to get the best I can afford now and forget about it for a few years. New computer will be my new main pc. At first I was only thinking AMD, but to my surprise Intel seems to be back with something decent now. NOT INTERESTED IN DDR5 for a few reasons. That's why I can't decide between this 2 routes: AMD route: getting the B550 Taichi (220$) + R5 5600G (230$) now. The 3700x + Taichi will be my main pc and the Mortar Wifi I have now will welcome the 5600G and become my secondary pc. 5900x will replace the 3700x later in 2022 if its price drops enough (480$ now) or 5900x with 3D cache. I can also get the 5900x + Taichi now and keep the 3700x as my secondary pc. INTEL route: getting the i7 12700k (420$) + either the ASUS TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WIFI D4 (290$) or MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 (300$) as main pc and make the 3700x build my secondary one. The costs of the 2 upgrades will be roughly the same (around 930$ with shipping + import fees), at least if I get the 5900x NOW. Some pros and cons I can think about for each route (please correct me if wrong): AMD route pros: - 3 computers with the same platform means interchangeable cpus/mobos. For example if some day I need more power in my NAS I can upgrade either of the 2 others and put their cpu/mobo in the NAS build. - AM4 is a well matured platform. - Power consumption and heat seem lower on AMD side vs Intel, at least on paper. - The B550 Taichi is a nicer board (quality and features wise) than the 2 Z690 ones. - ECC support on all cpus (excpet non pro apus) and Asus/Asrock mobos. AMD route cons: - AM4 is a dying (dead?) platform. But again Z690 with DDR4 will only support the 12th gen asaik. - No upgrade path in the future, but again I really don't see myself needing an upgrade in the next few years. - Concerned about the lack of AM4 replacements motherboards if something happens (not right now but in a few years since when AM5 will drop production of Am4 should stop). - No PCIe 5 support (not even using the 4 now, no idea about the future). INTEL route cons: - 12700k seems better than the 5900x in the benchmarks I have seen. - Newer platform with some (useless ^^) stuff like PCIe 5. - iGPU is nice to have, a working computer in the case your gpu die (the worst nightmare in 2021). INTEL route cons: - New and still very young platform with a lot of issues. - Heat and power consumption are higher? My room is always in the 30C in summer. No AC. - No interchangeability with my other pcs (cpu/mobo wise). - Motherboards are too expensive. - No ECC. Wow, it has been a long writing/reading. If you are here, a great thanks, and sorry for being so long. I hope this post will help other people with the same concerns. What do you think about this?

Up to 10 drives. Nor from he start, but I will be adding drives every couple of months. Unfortunately snapraid doesn't have a gui on windows, being command line based is a huge turn off for me.

I have been reading about snapraid and it seems very good for my usage. Any experience with it? It's still updated? It seems a lot like unraid, after some researches, storage spaces isn't adapted for what I want due to the the need of spinning all of the drive to read a single file. I am trying to decide between snapraid and unraid now.

Hum...if I understand correctly, with Unraid since it's using files, in the worst case scenario you can still have readable files on the working drives. With win10, since it's all blocks, if something goes bad there is only unreadable blocks in the working drives. Is that right? Watching a few videos now to better understand how it works and the main differences.

Thank you for the info, so, if I understand correctly, the files and parity are spread between all disks is that right? Can you control how much disks you can loose before starting to lose data?

For example let's say you have a 4 drives pool with 1 being parity,1 data drive dies, what happens? And if for example your motherboard or system ssd fail, what will happen to all of your hdds? do you need to format them and then create a new pool in the new system (since you have to reinstall windows) of are they are recognized automatically?

Thanks a lot I will explore this route and see what I can/can't do. Have you some experience with it? Is it as easy as unraid to add/replace drives?

Going this route will save me a LOT of money, since it will be 2 computers instead of 3. I already have a second computer, spare rams, spare cpu coolers, and other stuff. I only will need a new case. Another option is to build a new secondary/nas pc and sell this one. In this case, how expendable is the system? Is there any redundancy? What's the difference between using windows 10 pro and unraid?

Unfortunately still not an option. People in the US and EU just can't imagine how things are in Africa , for example this motherboard costs 30 usd, but shipping is 85 usd. Plus I have to expect random customs fees. Thank you, now I understand especially since I want to use a wacom cintiq pro on it, it's not an option. Windows does use physical raid right? You can't mix various sizes from my understanding is that right?

Thanks for correcting me, I was just considering tdp. But as I said before anything ddr3 isn't an option for me, too expensive in my country. Can you please explain? Is there any inconvenient to using a vm inside unraid?

Now that I asked here and in reddit, I am starting to have and idea: my second computer is used only for 2 thing: digital art a few hours per day for work/hobby (I only use Clip studio paint) and sometimes reading/playing visual novels (cough...+18...cough). All of my other activities are done in with my main computer (gaming rig). Can I use a vm inside the nas for those stuff and sell the secondary computer ?

I am afraid of silent copy error, so for my peace of mind I would prefer going with ECC. Too old, too power hungry (95w), ddr3 rams, old motherboards...I don't know in other countries but this is not an option here, these components cost more than newer and better ones since people just know the word "xeon" and think it's the top (even if it's from 10 years ago). My friend hp z400 just died a few months ago and I tried to find spare parts for him (the mobo): NOTHING!! and the few sellers who have it wanted 150 usd for it... Yes I actually have 45 tb of data without any parity, so as you said I need more than 80TB. I am adding about 5TB per year. Do you mean the maximum parity is 2 or 3? Noted, thanks a lot. 2.5 gigs should be plenty I think. Thank you for all of your answers much appreciated.

Hi here, First of all, I want to say that I am a total noob in everything server related. I always been using a lot of storage, mainly external, but I am tired of having my files spread between all of my HDDs, plus I have a second computer, so it's time to start using a better solution. I am not interested in pre-built NAS like Synology, the prices/specs of these devices aren't appealing to me. I want to build my own custom server and have absolute control on the hardware/power/heat/noise. - My actual setup (nothing fancy): 2 computers - ps3 - old laptop - smartphone - tablet - What I want to use the NAS for: File server only, no VMs, no plex (at least for now). I want to be able to listen to music, read ebooks and watch videos from any of my devices. Since like I said before I am a total noob in network storage, I have a some remaining questions even after a lot of researches. I live in Morocco where electronics are expensive as hell (plus basically I have to import everything) so I want to be sure to do things correctly. I am apologizing in advance for every dumb question ^^. Please correct me if something is wrong. 1 - Hardware: Let's start with the hardware. ECC memory is a must have, I do care about my files. I also want to keep power consumption as low as possible. Finally, my budget is low so I want to spend it on the important stuff. After a lot of readings/videos, I have opted for something like this: 1.1 - CPU: Ryzen 3 3100 / 3300x / Ryzen 5 3600* (*too expensive here). These are all 65w, pack enough horse power for what I need and support ECC (all of Ryzen CPUs and Pro APUs support ECC). What do you think? Any reason to not go with the cheapest one? I can also get the Ryzen 5 2600 for the same price as the 3100, it's also 65w, What do you think? Worth it or not? (Since Ryzen 2xxx wasn't as good as the 3xxx series). 1.2 - Motherboard: Some Asrock/Asus b550/x570 with listed support of ECC. Should I go for a board with a lot of SATA ports or get a PCI card? I have seen some cards in ebay, but they are at least 100 usd and I am concerned since it adds another possible component for failure. 1.3 - RAM: How much do I need? I have to find a good ECC sticks compatible with my motherboard, it's always possible to add more so I don't want to spend a lot here. For now I am considering a single 16gb stick, should I go with 8 instead? The prices aren't that different. 1.4 - Intel route: Another possibility is the i3 9100 + GIGABYTE C246-WU4 motherboard (10 sata ports). What do you think, compared to my first option? 1.5 - Case: This is the most troubling part. As I said before the options here in Morocco as basically inexistent, and importing a case is f*** expensive!! Something like $400 for shipping. I want a case with at least 10 HDDs, for now I can get: COOLER MASTER MASTERCASE MC500P (10 x 3.5") for $200 (but I can find the additional HDD brackets anywhere). COOLER MASTER COSMOS C700P (seems to support 12 x 3.5") for...$370 (+ $60 for importing 7 more brackets). the C700M costs $600 here haha what a joke (murdering the store owner is legit in this case or not? ^^) BeQuiet Silent Base 802 (excellent case but supports only 7 x 3.5") for $280 (+ brackets) Phanteks P600s (10 x 3.5") for $300 (+ brackets) - Not even sure if I still can get it. Any idea here? Also concerned about the noise/temperature since it will be in my room. 1.6 - PSU: A 550W Gold is enough here right? 1.6 - GPU: Some cheap fanless one just for setup. I should get a motherboard that boot without a GPU right? 1.6 - Network: dumb question here. My router (ZTE F660) ethernet ports are 1GB, this is my absolute limit right? Or does adding a switch or any other device change something? 2 - Software: The eternal dilemma: Unraid vs Openmediavault vs Freenas...fight! I am considering Unraid as my first option. A few things to say: I have never used Linux. I don't want to have all of my disks always spinning. I have a lot of drives of different sizes, speeds and even form factors. I want to be able add/mix/replace drives easily, without configuring from scratch. I am afraid of losing files and want a safe parity, even if everything will be still backed in my cloud. From all of my researches Unraid seems to be the perfect system for me, but again I am a noob here so maybe I'm wrong. My plan is to start with the biggest parity disk I can afford and use all of my drives at first, then start adding new drive(s) every few months and hopefully replace the old ones. A few question: Can I add parity disks anytime I want ? Is my plan realistic (I mean is this possible with Unraid/other OS) ? 3 - Storage : Any recommendation/advice here? Concerned about noise/power/heat. From what I have seen 10/12 tb 5400 rpm helium sealed drives seem to be the best bang for the buck right now, is that right? Since I am in Morocco there will be no warranty when purchasing from US/EU, so I am planning on getting some WD 12TB elements and shucking them. What do you think? Especially concerned about quality/durability. Any advice will help. ----------------------- Finally done! Hope this was detailed enough and not too long! Thanks for reading.

Thank you again for your time.

Tested @ShrimpBrime method with the speaker, now only hope left is to see them working on another motherboard.

I am not an expert, but I have seen DDR4 sticks working with some systems and not others. Well I have to try what you have suggested before, I really hope it isn't dead.

I will try this, my mb have a debug led and it's clearly blocked in the ram. The motherboard is perfectly functional with other rams, but this one isn't listed on the QVL so it's possible this is a compatibility issue (and from what I have read 32gb sticks are tricky).

Nothing, the motherboard doesn't pass POST, the debugger led is stuck on ram.

Yeah I have tried it a few times, tried 1 stick, every possible combination...etc. I am really lost with this kit (and I can't return it).

Hello, I have actually this config: R7 3700x MSI B550m Mortar Wifi 4 x 16 HyperX Fury DDR4 2666 I wanted to upgrade my ram (I need the sticks actually in use in another computer) and got myself a kit of VENGEANCE® RGB PRO 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 thinking they will work normally. I haven't checked the QVL for my mobo (this version isn't listed, I found it later). The computer won't post with these ram no matter what I tried. The RGB turns ON but the computer doesn't boot (Ram led on ez debugger). I can't return this kit and now I have a 64gb memory not doing anything. Anyone here with experience with this model? CMW64GX4M2E3200C16 16-20-20-38 - 1.35v v5.49 I searched QVL for various motherboard but never found this precise reference in anyone, for example in B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2, the listed ones are: CMK64GX4M2C3200C16 ver 5.49 CMW32GX4M2E3200C16 ver4.32 CMK128GX4M4C3200C16 ver 5.49 Is there any solution to make them work on my actual motherboard, or should I get another one? Even this seems difficult since I am outside the US and doesn't have the possibility to return a purchased product if it doesn't work. Anything will help!! Thank you.

Thank you for the reply. So even with the hub, there is no way to take control of the speed. I have 5 pwms 14 cm Arctic fans that I am not using, if I can't stand then noise, Maybe I will use them instead of the case native fans. Still haven't finished building due to...a long story (got a FAKE cpu from Amazon and waiting for the new stuff...unbelievable!!).

Hi, I am building in a case that come with 4 ARGB 3 pins fans (THIS ONE) already connected to a fan controller/hub. The hub is connected to the case LED button so you can change the colors, and have a SATA port for power, meaning you can't control the fans' speed. Is there anyway (an adapter or something) that will allow me to connect this controller/hub to my motherboard to be able to control the speed/rgb form there?