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Already have a 360MM AIO. D15 doesn't fit. Doesn't make sense to upgrade the air cooler if I'm going liquid cooled but am open for suggestions. I like the NZXT so will wait for that mounting bracket. Or follow the below suggestion... ... zip ties and electrical tape.

Am wondering given the TDP of the 12900K, the Noctua NH-U9S performance, and that I won't get the NZXT bracket until mid/late November, if it is just better to get a different AIO. Thoughts?

All of those coolers are too tall for the Lian Li. 155mm max height.

I've got the NZXT Kraken Z73 but waiting on a LGA 1700 bracket. Any other cooler options you can suggest I am all ears.

Building a PC that will be used for everything from remote access to Blender renders and neural networks. A Fun Park PC of sorts where I just want it to have the power there if I need it. Budget (including currency): $1750 (new parts, does not include GPU) Country: USA Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Blender, AutoCAD, SketchUp, Photoshop, Lightroom, T-Rex Miner, Citrix Other details: CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $649.99 CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S chromax.black 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler $69.95 Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1700 Motherboard $329.99 Memory: Crucial 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory $429.06 Storage: Western Digital Black 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Seagate FireCuda 520 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case: $149.99 Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply: $119.99 What am I missing? I had gone back and forth between i7 and i9 but wanted the extra 2 cores and the turbo speed. PSU could be more powerful but I will probably only run 1 GPU given how difficult they are to get. In the future the CPU will be liquid cooled AIO (have a NZXT Kraken Z73 waiting for a LGA 1700 bracket) and if I go w/ more than 1 GPU I will upgrade the PSU.

I went with the NZXT b/c it was on the Tier1 list and it had that LCD. But thank you for the post, if my case could fit the 420 I'd put that in there. And now I'm thinking about it b/c the new 12900K does put out a lot of heat.

GoVets has the Kraken Z73 for $187. Not the most reputable of retailers (YMMV use your discretion), but I ordered mine last week and it shipped (should arrive today) so it isn't vaporware. It's a nearly $300 USD cooler for those in a bind for an AIO w/ a LCD. Z63 also on sale on the site. https://www.govets.com/index.php/nzxt-312-8125061.html

I was in a similar boat and went with 3900x and 32GB of RAM with the extra savings for the video card/future expansion. The 3900x vs 3950x performance benchmarks are close enough to where I didn’t see the benefit of paying $750 vs $470 (what I paid) for the 3900x. It has enough lanes for now (will prob only go to 2 GPUs) beccause the next step is the TR line.

I actually started w/ 16GB G.SKILL 3000 CL16, then 3600 CL18, and now I’m on 32GB 3200 CL16 Corsair. They’re all supported to varying extents on the QVL and all seem to be well supported based on reviews. The 32GB takes 2/4 slots which will give me headroom to double the RAM in the near term.

This is great. Sounds like I may do more shopping.

Building a first workstation after at least 10 years and my how things have changed, from quality of cases to memory selection complexity. I’ve got the ASUS X570-Ace WS and a Ryzen 3900x. Currently have 16GB G.SKILL Trident Z 3000/CL 16 which is on the ASUS QVL. In an ideal world I’d go to 3600 CL 16 but haven’t found the intersection of something that matches the QVL and what’s available. I say ideal world because I will prob upgrade to 32GB in 6 months and want the fastest I can to match. How much do I need to do a full stop with the QVL? It only goes to 3200 and I know there is a “3600 sweet spot” for the Ryzen.

Good to know on MKL. There is a lot about this box that will be for hacking from the start.

Well I went and got a Ryzen 3900x. It doesn’t have enough lanes to bankrupt me with video cards but it’s more future proof than a 1st/2nd gen Threadripper. And now I’m team red!

After doing more (and more research) I may be putting too much emphasis on the lanes. I think a Ryzen/Intel setup w/ a GPU or four would still work with the marginal benefit of having more lanes being small.

Good call on the Xeon/DDR ECC RAM. Number of GPUs is probably the most important. Hence why I've started at Threadripper (64 lanes). The alternative is to go a totally different route w/ fewer lanes and go Ryzen (16 lanes). I put together: $160 Threadripper 1900x $280 Gigabyte X399 $140 32GB DDR4 3000

I really liked starting down the Threadripper line b/c I can get so much more bandwidth from GPU/memory down the road (i.e. I have more lanes to add more cores) whereas I'm topped out on the Ryzen line. Is that the case? My upgrade concerns are more on the GPU side than on the processor side. I just want a good base.

I'm just starting to scratch the surface with some deep learning/Tensorflow machine learning and my current rig is... wait for it.. a 2012 Mac mini w/ a Samsung EVO SSD and 16GB of RAM. Yea, so I'm quite a ways behind. After toying with whatever is on sale at Dell Outlet I really want to build my own rig again (last build was in 2008 with an Intel Skulltrail) and I'm enticed by the AMD Threadripper. However, my budget ($1000 +-) doesn't allow entertaining current v2 v3 Threadrippers. So the question is, do I build an "upgradable" rig or do I go team blue and just do an i5/i7 and then wait until I can get all those threads/channels. More threads means more crunching, and the "base" Threadripper allows me a lotta threads to expand (I don't think I can get to the same end where I have 4 GPUs w/ team blue) but who knows where/what will be out there once I CAN upgrade. TLDR: I want a good base to start building a real algo/deep learning/number crunching rig AND want upgrade flexibility AND as much bang for buck as possible using $1000. Do I go tail between legs and Intel i5/i7 or use borrowed 1970s F14 Tomcats and go AMD Threadripper v1?