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that's indeed the issue....since I want to upgrade my monitor....the new socket may go for several itinerations....that's why I'm doubting to get the 9 series....instead of waiting for the 10 series ?

haha you have a point sir....no answer to my initial request, but you're making sense ?

so...your advise is to wait for the HT 10 series? BTW, I am not struggling with any current games....struggling meaning less than 60fps

The initial question was - go for the 9600k or wait for the 10600k...so yes, you're partially right - also I have mentioned not to be interested in Ryzen whatsoever....not my fault everyone is getting the Ryzen way here in their replies ?

I know, seen all the reviews....not even gonna ask you for your choice of CPU....but thanks for the reply I guess....

thanks, seen plenty reviews....not going for the 9700 nor the 9900...9600 stays nicely under that power load ?

ok that last part is a valid point, will take that in account...but still, the benchmarks I have seen (from valid sources) have shown overclocked AMD's way above the wattage (don't know if that's a valid English word even) of the Intel overclocked cpu's....and yes, my gpu sucks nowadays....but that one will have to do for now ?

Thanks for your reply ! I do not consider myself as 'getting older', 50 is the new 40 right ? . I have been AMD as you until the Core2Duo....but still....the benchmarks prove it, Intel is still king (at stock speeds), so I'm not jumping back on the AMD wagon just yet....as mentioned, the 10 series Intel will have a new pin count....that's why I'm doubting between buying a 9600kf now, or waiting for the 10 series which' pin count will probably last for some evolutions ? (And yes, any new cpu I buy will fortunately be better than the one I have, that's a given)

Sorry, but my stock 3.3GHz is very not demanding when I overclock it 1 full GHz above stock....been running that setup for years now....AMD is known for heat and power consumption. Also, as mentioned, I am doubting between buying now - i5 9600kf, or waiting for the 10 series...not interested in an i7 2600k....which - if you can find them - are too expensive ? I don't know why, when particularly stating not being interested in Ryzens, everyone goes Ryzen here lol....is it my English (only 4th language)? ?

As mentioned, only gaming here...and memory oc (which can be done on a nice Intel mobo as well) gets you what? 2 fps? as you said...tiny bit....you're comparing 9900k and 3900x, which are probably awesome beasts when multitasking, but as said....that's nothing I am looking for.

Let's not forget - at least judging the reviews I've been reading/watching....Ryzens go way up when it comes to both heat and Watts....I pay my electrical bills myself you know ?

Ryzen is cheaper when you compare stock speeds yes, when taking the cores and HT in consideration (maybe)...but overclocking does make a big difference....so ultimately, as Intel 'k' CPU's overclock way higher, they do have the best 'worth' imho - besides, Ryzen 2700x here is 245 euro, 9600KF is 195

Not when overclocking, seeing the Ryzens only getting up to 4.3GHz...or am I wrong with that statement? Budget is no issue, allthough I do tend to spend my money wisely...also why I'm doubting about the 9600k instead of the i7 counterpart. Thanks for the reply though !

Hi people, I've been following LTT on Youtube for years now...finally decided to create an account here...mainly for the question I have been asking myself now for years...but also (hopefully) to give some decent advice once in a while. First of all, I am 41, been gaming since the Commodore 64, have been overclocking and 'fiddling' with hardware as soon as pc's allowed it, and have been working in ICT for over 15 years now...so I am certainly down with the basics ? Soo....current system: - i5 2500k @ 4.3GHz stable - 4 x 4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 @ 1600MHz, CAS 9 - Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3P motherboard (the reason I'm stuck at 4.3GHz) - Zalman CNP9900 Max air cooler - Samsung EVO 840 500GB SSD, plus 16TB storage - 750W Bronze PSU - Asus Strix GTX 1070 - Samsung 27" 1080p LCD - recently changed my Antec twelve hundred (v1) to full RGB Thermaltake View 71 (midlife crisis I guess?) Year after year, the upgrade virus takes hold of me....and year after year, I keep my 2500k as it still remains awesome for my main goal - gaming (and movies), and I still do not have to bother about fps....my monitor is only 60Hz capable. Apart from the yearly upgrade virus however (I have been able to keep it at bay with the purchase of the new case - almost forgot how fun it is to build a 'new' pc)....I am more and more thinking about getting a new monitor...1440p or 1080p with 144Hz or something like that. Upgrading now (Gigabyte Z390 Pro, i5-9600k, 16GB DDR4 @CAS 14) would cost me about 700 euro (probably less for you fortunate ones living in the US)....and I'm sure I'd be happy with that for the upcoming years...OC to 5GHz and sit back right? However...Intel is gonna launch the 10 series this year (I'm guessing at a decent price range to compete with the current AMD awesomeness - 10 series will also have HT)....so...long story cut short, taking in account the 10 series will have a 1159 pin setup....would you guys wait for the 10 series, or go for the (recently lowered in price) 9 series (would go for the 9600KF in this case)? PS: I am not interested in Ryzen...I know what they can do, I know they have more cores for the buck...as I love to overclock (and always seriously invest in cooling) and only need single core performance for the majority of the time, I will stick to Intel for now. Thanks for your views in any case !