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Now im not sure, temps would of made sense for stock cooler, but not a enermax. I'd try taking the AIO off, repasting and reseating it.

Which CPU cooler? If Wraith Stealth then that sounds like normal temps, its not a good cooler. I think from last screenshot you posted in CPU-Z your BIOS config is probably fine, but look into getting something like a Hyper 212 Pretty much all AMD CPUs come with decent out of the box coolers, with the sole exception being the 3600 (and 3950x which i believe doesn't come with one)

So far as 9700k? I'd say it could be worth but only if you overclock it, and only if gaming is all you do. Its not good at productivity workloads (not for its price), multi threaded stuff, and there will be no new CPUs for fancy new Z390 motherboard you will have to buy for it. Honestly though 6700 is fine, you could wait if you wanted. only upgrade to Ryzen if you would enjoy idea of doing so, difference won't be huge between those two if noticable at all. If you would of said 6600(k) though then oof, all 4 threads sucks in 2019. Ryzen 4000 will come out in about a year and likewise you could go for that then, or likewise snag a 3900x for way better prices then it is now if you got into streaming, video editing etc. Nearly same performance if you go for Ryzen, maybe like 5% better, but about 10% improvement to averages and 20% uplift to minimum fps (1%, and .1% lows, less "stuttering" basically) with 9700k, overclocked. You definitely would notice a difference, but hard to say if its really worth it. Oh PS, if you haven't already OC your 2080S memory, there are huge potential gains there, and MSI Afterburner is very safe and easy to use. i don't completely disagree, but it often rivals, sometimes even beats a 9900k in 1% and .1% lows, good frame time consistency. If gaming is all you do its arguably pretty attractive for that reason, imo nothing is more irritating then stutter/bad frame times, even if on most modern CPUs its usually never that bad. Its just not as 'smart' a buy given the socket is dead, and AM4 boards still has Zen3/4000 series to look forward to etc etc yada yada. I'm on Ryzen 3000, happy about it given what i had before, but honestly if i had excessive money to burn, didn't mind upgrading everything every 1-2 years, i would of built a 9700k system. Not a 9900k system, a 9700k one.

Unless you are shopping at a MicroCenter or other large retailer, and can confirm somehow that on the box it says "Ryzen 3000" ready often they aren't pre-updated, there are still a lot of boards being sold without the BIOS update. If one is willing to wait, deal with the paperwork/documentation nothing is wrong with using the 200ge loaner program ('Short Term Processor Loan Boot Kit'), or RMAing the board with a request to have its BIOS updated. info here https://www.extremetech.com/computing/295027-amd-will-provide-a-free-temporary-uefi-upgrade-kit-for-ryzen-3000-motherboard-updates https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100 Personally i like the look of the Rog Strix b450-i, better for potential upgradability later. either of those look good though for just a 3600.

There is some obvious, huge difference in certain games there If we are taking a OC'd 2600k (4.7ghz OC at that) as a stand in for the 3770, the minimums were like twice as bad as with the 2600/2700 in many of the titles, indicating bad stuttering/hitching, average fps was often 20% or so lower. Also, since that video came out more modern games, especially ones using DX12, have become even more demanding so far as being core/thread hungry, 6 cores often being a safe minimum for smooth gameplay. 3770 isn't a horrible CPU if you are super strapped for cash, i have a personal spot in my heart for 200-300$ OEM Dells, HP, Acers etc being turned into gaming rigs with simply GPU+PSU upgrade, but if its possible to upgrade they are infact pretty bad compared to a 2700, especially looking into more recent, and likely most if not all future titles. Cool thing will be if you setup a decent 2700 system now, you can upgrade to Ryzen 4000 when it comes out next year if you want to, so it wouldn't be a terrible investment eitherway, next years future processors will be supported by said AM4 socket motherboards, (a320,b350,x370,b450,x470,x570) , so if you already have decent ram+mobo (90-120$ b450s recommended) then you have a easy upgrade path in the future. There is a list of how motherboards rank in this forum, likewise this list specific to AM4 that personally i find is easier to search(ctrl+f) through, feel free to reference it if you go shopping around. Anything with "100A" rating is likely a good buy. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

Is he adventurous? I'll explain why im asking in a sec. Upgrading to cheap Ryzen and spending what you have on decent b450 board is probably best safe route, but i don't think you could do this that nicely with 150$ given most of the boards worth having are 99$ (75$ for iffy one i wouldnt want to keep MSI VDH MAX), so only if you stretched the budget could you then afford a 2200g, which would be fine for a budget system, but with used market you could do better. With this though you'll likely need to order DDR4 dram which will add to the cost. If this was feasible then it would be decent system with decent integrated graphics, you didn't mention but i was wondering about GPU. It will struggle with some newer titles, but a EOM Dell Optiplex, HP, Acer VERITON with 4c/8t wouldn't be bad. I think your general idea with 2600 or 4690 isn't too bad though. Honestly though if you are willing to deal with international shipping, and maybe very mild risk of parts being DOA (rare but may be harder to get replacement if it was), i think the ultimate sub >150$ CPU+Mobo is going on Aliexpress, ordering a 53$ E5-2689, overclockable 8 core Xeon, and a 80$ Machinist Machinist X79 Motherboard. With security stuff turned off (not needed at all on a personal PC, you have to physically be in contact with the computer to use such exploits, only matters for servers) it performs really close to the 500$ +100$+ 9900k with midrange graphics card. Likewise this config still uses DDR3 so he/you could likely use DRAM one already owns. Think about it, might be a bit of a risk, but would be cool to see some actual forum members, or their buddies running unusual but genuinely very high performance, top tier even, system like this.

Weird exception being the RX 5500XT 4gb, as its wired for PCI 4.0 but only uses 8 lanes, apparently restores its performance in games it suffers vs the 8gb. Weird decision on AMDs part to do that, making the cheapest card only work to its fullest on the newest boards, but i suppose might make sense assuming OEMs will likely be some of the bigger buyers of it, and will likely run x570s, likewise if the card isn't attractive atm due to price vs performance maybe will be in a year or two. Since this was recently figured out, i am starting to wonder if x570s not such a bad buy even if NVME doesn't interest oneself, may point to a lot more GPUs relying and working a bit better (for 8gb it was only a few percent, 4gb was main beneficiary, but 8gb still did run a bit better especially so far as frame-time consistency) so long as you get a board with good VRMs vs its cost, something like Asus Prime x570-P Anyways back to OPs question, in CAD i think your best bet is finding a MSI b450 Gaming plus or b450 A-Pro, like this https://www.newegg.com/msi-b450-a-pro-max/p/N82E16813144268 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144264?Description=MSI MAX&cm_re=MSI_MAX-_-13-144-264-_-Product The b450 VDH MAX exists, but it has rather crummy VRM, where the other boards can likely support a stock 3900x (no OC), and OC the heck out of a 8 core, let alone a 6 core, the VDH could probably OC a 6 core but won't likely be sufficient if you upgrade to a 8 core later. https://www.newegg.com/msi-b450m-pro-vdh-max/p/N82E16813144265?Description=MSI MAX&cm_re=MSI_MAX-_-13-144-265-_-Product Likewise this forum has a pinned list, if you didnt notice it, but there is also this one which is easier to search through imo https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

Using DisplayPort with 2070 should easily resolve the issues, like others said its most likely just a foible with using an HDMI cable on a high refresh monitor. Like others said i am curious which RX560 it is if it actually doesn't have a Displayport, because they all seem to feature it, which would solve your issues now if you have a Displayport cable laying around.

Then just get the PowerColor Red Dragon, run it with switch toggled to Silent if you are very worried about noise, or likewise run it toggled to OC if its quiet enough for you and you want a few more FPS https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-axrx-5700-8gbd6-3dhr-oc/p/N82E16814131755?Item=N82E16814131755&Description=5700&cm_re=5700-_-14-131-755-_-Product I linked the Gamers Nexus review of it above. I own the cheaper base model duel fan from Powercolor, almost identical if not identical fan/cooler design, these cards in stock configuration, if not OC'd/Bios flashed etc really don't make a lot of noise at all, i couldn't hear them over my case fans (that said i have pretty basic pwm case fans, not noctua's or anything.) Likewise PowerColor has good reputation so far as build quality/reliability etc. With a BIOS flash and manual OC, running way hotter then stock, i can run it around 2400rpm/44% fixed fan speed (44% in wattman, GPU-Z reads it at 66%, 2400rpm eitherway) where i can't personally hear it over case fans. After 20 minutes of stress test GPU never exceeded 75C, Junction Hotspot 93C, Memory 88C If you want to know why i personally didn't get the Red Dragon, the base Powercolor Duel Fan was 30$ discounted to 320$ (Was special MicroCenter Black Friday deal) when i bought it, the Red Dragon was not, at current prices i'd just get the Dragon for 10$ more.

No, iirc i believe they fixed the problems with early models, but its usually not possible to tell if vendor is selling updated (fixed) model, or original ones with thermal and noise issues (early models ran nearly as loud as reference blower card) Gigabyte RX 5700 Gaming OC is easily the most solid model, there shouldn't be any weird issues to potentially worry about and its already one of the quietest cards on the market.

I'll give a few options but spoiler is last one is best for noise. (edit) The one mentioned in post above ? This is best value out of the "better" cards, still quiet from reviews ive read, not the best though, but good. 339$ https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-11294-01-20G-Radeon-Backplate-Graphics/dp/B07W954YN9/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=rx+5700&qid=1577332892&sr=8-3 (its pricier on NewEgg so not gonna link it) I have cheaper standard version of this(i don't see it listed on amazon atm), this specific "Red Dragon" version has 2x vbios, can be toggled from Silent to OC mode. The duel bios is also useful if you want to try your hand at flashing the Vbios to a XT model, usually this is safe to do, but in this case if you did fail flashing it you could just run other bios https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-Dragon-Radeon-5700-Graphics/dp/B07WRVWNMY/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=rx+5700&qid=1577332892&sr=8-5 https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-axrx-5700-8gbd6-3dhr-oc/p/N82E16814131755?Item=N82E16814131755&Description=5700&cm_re=5700-_-14-131-755-_-Product Gamers Nexus actually reviewed this specific model this is more basic version i have, (350$) before a BIOS flash pushing the clocks and increasing the voltage (thus heat), it was super quiet, now is acceptably quiet, but doubt its the quietest model out there. I chose this one because i have a smaller MATX case and needed a 2-slot card This is likely the quietest overall 5700 in that price range (360$), worth the extra few bucks if noise is a primary concern. https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Graphics-256-Bit-Gv-R57GAMING-OC-8GD/dp/B07W821Z6C/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=rx+5700&qid=1577332892&sr=8-4 https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-gv-r57gaming-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932209?Description=Gigabyte Radeon Rx 5700 Gaming OC&cm_re=Gigabyte_Radeon_Rx_5700_Gaming_OC-_-14-932-209-_-Product Triple fan cards are almost always best option if noise is your biggest concern. I mentioned the XFX DD Ultra in other post, its the cheapest AIB 5700 at moment but if noise is a primary concern i'd get any of the other 3, Gigabyte Gaming OC if 360$ isn't too much, but if its not available the other 2-3 models are good, siding towards the Any of the duel fan Powercolor cards (Red Dragon, or not)

2.20GHz Xeon? Assuming there is no OC thats likely going to hold back a 1080 You could look into disabling Spectre and Meltdown security mitigations as they really hamper performance on Xeons, and the exploits are only a worry if somebody physically comes into contact with your computer, so if its not a actual server (obviously this isn't), just a gaming rig, then not worth having This guy mentions the procedure somewhere in this vid, hope it can help

You can but the GDDR6 will likely crap out on you after a few weeks or months due to how insanely hot it runs, i wouldn't do it.

almost always they all overclock the same manually assuming similar thermals performance. Only pay for a "OC" card for the noise and thermals. Very rarely sometimes you get better silicon, but unless you can find a reference that they actually binned the silicon somewhere usually its just luck of the draw, a cheap card can have better silicon then a more expensive model in many cases. Better cooling will effect OC potential though, so yeah, if its cooled much more effectively, thats totally worth it, likewise will usually run much quieter in stock config then cheaper models.

cooler, and it associated problems are the same, only difference is the size of the silicon die (XT is 10% larger roughly) and the vbios configuration

^if not for above i'd say just get 1080ti, they are very similar performance, but he brings up a good point.

the MSI is bad, avoid it, yes they improved some of it but there is no way of knowing if you are getting a original or somewhat fixed model Both the superior XFX duel fan and Reference cards are going for >$350 on multiple online retailers right now (amazon, new egg etc), i'd go for either of those. Yes, the blower card genuinely is a better option, promise you. Even if the card didn't malfunction early due to overheating GDDR6 etc (which is a risk with it), its one of the loudest cards out there. The design issues of the XT carry over to 5700 models, the GPU temp may be cooler (assuming you don't flash it) with a 5700 but memory will still be hot, it will run loud as hell trying to cool itself.

I'm sure there is some way to configure a OS to run 2 cards independently (running windows VM via linus?), but it would be a lot of work and much more complex then just buying a cable adaptor and selling the 1060 while it still has some decent value on used market If you meant SLI, there might be some games that support it, but likely many won't, so you would likely be cutting into your game library, in games that may support it can also have some visual issues which would really stand out in VR. Sorry but so far as practicality and value goes, its just not worth it. Gift your 1060 to a buddy who needs it if you are feeling festive and charitable,

romance and stuff

if you think low frame rates are a acceptable meme then learn to play any musical instrument and realize how easily perceptiple miliseconds are to the average human, until then don't game, cause that is what you are up against. sorry for being a snob

not sure, its unusual market, but get something with decent ventilation and you can't go long

ever heard that song "black magic women" by Santana? this is PSUs, you just don't know if its all gone wrong till its too late. but likely should be fine for your specific build, assuming no odd issues.

not sure which exact MOBO but the RGB software on my ASRock mobos support page is odd, slow in some ways, but has no issues correcting colors and causes no overhead like crappy progams iCue etc

its easier to find top notch DRAM in most regions for Ryzen 3000 at actually good prices, thus why i keep recommending it given that is a actual cost concern when upgrading whole system. Ryzen 2000 is a poopy when it comes to ram compatibility just ignore its dumby butt examples https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880?Item=N82E16820232880&Description=3600 cl16&cm_re=3600_cl16-_-20-232-880-_-Product https://www.newegg.com/oloy-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821145?Description=3600 oloy&cm_re=3600_oloy-_-20-821-145-_-Product

if you want a free computer virus download CCleaner or Speccy, you can get Avast imbedded in your system and its basically as bad as a actual virus, very effective for destroying your relative performance