fishboy1996

@Airdragonz @Palden I managed to fix it, turns out the first time you boot on an Asus ROG x570-e motherbaord at least in my case on two identical boards you get either an 02, 25 or 8d error, these pointed to several different things and i was pulling my hair out for hours/days. The fix and i cant quite believe this myself is on first boot to use a HDMI cable instead of a DisplayPort. It was literally my last resort I changed and reseated, built and tore apart the PC multiple times and it turns out this was the issue! Thankyou so much for your rapid responses though!

Hi All, So after waiting 3 months for my 3900X it finally arrived, so i went ahead and took out the 1600x I had working on bios 0604 in my X570-e motherboard and started up my pc only to receive a 02 error on my motherboard, black screen. I did all the debugging recommended for this checked every cable and connection and couldnt find anything unseated or loose, which wouldnt make sense anyway seen as it booted just fine with the 1600X in, I tried flashing bios (made my 1600X not work anymore ) resetting CMOS, I mean everything, so thought it may have been my processor, I got my friend to try it in his 3600X build using an MB and it worked perfectly .... So I thought Id possibly just buggered the first motherboard by using an 1600X so ran out and grabbed another X570-e, removed the old in with the new and BAM once again 02, is there any known solution or other troubleshooting steps I should be taking? I know the CPU and everything elseworks? Specs: Asus ROG X570-e AMD Ryzen 3900X Gskill trident Z Neo 32GB @3600mhz Asus ROG Strix 1070 (Salvaged from old rig) Corsair h150i Seasonic Focus Platinum 750W

The main reason why I think is simply because most ATX cases started supporting matx boards and the high end ones made by specific companies didnt like the fact people were going for cheaper boards with similar technologiesnon board. Still variety in the markey is never a bad thing as it wasnt over saturated anyway, but then mini-dtx is becoming more popular so why have a relatively high end dtx board from asus and not do an matx when especially when SLI support is dying out anyway. Granted some Matx cases are nearly as big as ATX cases but otherwise the additional PCIe slots were a nice feature.

Why though because there was still a decent amount of mATX cases shown at computex comparitively to the boards and even then they offered a more spacious build for most itx mb for better cooling capabilities, also alot of itx cases are becoming huge to equat for this so is there just gonna be a larger itx case form factor to make up for the gap in the market between a mid to full tower and a smaller itx case?

I wanted to create this topic just about the comparitive lack of mATX boards in the current X570 lineup (only the Asrock pro4 which is only a mid tier), currently building a new pc of which my case is mATX however I thought this could be used for any further knowledge answers or links to help people like me to share information. I personally love the mATX form factor, this is my first mATX pc build, owning two ATX and an ITX before (all custom built) but want to knmow why the sudden lack yet of them but case manufacturers still churning them out? Will it be another b-tier motherboard showing again?