Gogeta Blue

yes that is one rumor but nobody knows for sure, another important point is the limit in pci-e lanes on CPU’s , so it doesn’t matter if apple put a pci-e expansion inside the mac pro, if the person doesn’t buy a CPU with enough PCI-e lanes, intel finally decided to stop the 28 lanes madness on the CPU’s at least on the last gen of CPU’s. also running video cards at 8x is not so bad but there are devices that need full 16x bandwith to run at full speed unless the person doesn’t care about the hit on performance, i own 2 ssd7102 with 8 samsung 970 pro, 4 in each card and i run those at 16x each, i have a i9 7960x , if i run any of those at 8x i will get half of the speed, so is not like video cards that only looses a few franes if you run them at 8x

if i use paragraphs then it will look even bigger and people will complain about the long message if i try to make it smaller then i’m putting everything together and people will still complaint sorry but i can’t make everyone happy as much as i will like to sometimes is just inevitable and complicated topics where a few point has to be mention, the message is going to be long, it doesn’t matter how hard you try to make it short unless you left some of the important info out i think what is important beside the first grade grammar school teacher is the message itself so to make a small resume you just talked about pci-e slots and forgot all about egpu so is not just about macs pro pci-e slots because egpu are external and does not require any pci-e slot and it can be use in almost any machine besides just the mac pro like you mentioned

madgemade you are correct about some points but you are missing a few inportant points, nvidia cards are not for the old mac pro only, you forgot all about eGPU here is the problem, many users will love to buy a eGPU enclosure ir simply change the card that came inside their enclousure if possible for a newer card, so nvidia cards are just not limited to old mac pros, they can also be use on newer macs, the problem is that there are no web drivers, even with that brick wall standing on the way, many mac users use their nvidia cards on windows 10 using an eGPU enclousure, thereyou don’t need web drivers for the card to wirk so it will be fully supported on w10, i think it comes down to money, AMDcards are cheaper than Nvidia cards so apple can make more money if they include AMD on their Macs instead of Nvidia cards, why you guysthink that AMD card work extremely good on Mac OS, is notbevause they are better than Nvidia cards, is just that apple optimize tbe kext drivers for AMD cards, even old kepler cards can run metal but since there are no Macs with newer cards apple is not obligated to support those new Nvidia cards, on top of that, apple diesn’t make any money from Nvidia’s sales so is just obvious that apple is cutting nvidia’s throat so they “apple and AMD” can make money on card sales, if you go to any other forums, many usets are falling in their trap, selling their nvidia cards and buying AMD cards, i sold my 1080 and bought a 2080 and i’m not goi g to sell my card or replace it for an AMD card, i simply don’t like AMD, i don’t like their design which i consider them to be very ugly and i also don’t lime the fact tbat tney are cheap, i don’t want people to think that i can’t afford a good nvidia graphic card, i have mojave installed, of course without graphic acceleration, i use windows every once in a while but most of the time only for gaming, apple isjust trying to take out the biggest competitor out the way, pushing AMD so they can make money, if you look at the ridicous price for apple AMD eGPU, anybody knows that you can get a better nvidia card for that anount of money but since there are no web drivers many people don’t have any other choice, there are 3 choices, 1 wait for wait drivers, maybe we will have to wait untill10.15 but we will have metal compatible web drivers that will smoke those crappy AMD cards, 2 use windows while you wait, yes i know it sucks but if you don’t want to wait then you can switch to AMD, the only problem with option #3 is that you might end up regreting your decision once those web drivers are out, while option #3 might be the best decision right now so the person can use Mojave, it might end up back firing when those web drivers come iut with support for turing cards, i will not switch no matter what, but no one else has to he like be or do what i do, tes is a big sacrifice, but i simply can’t install a AMD card on my system, not even as a tempirary solution, i tried and didn’t like it, for that just get a cheap 650 that is supported OOTB, sorry for my bad english and for the long message, cheers