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Absolutely. There are plenty of reviews, by the way, remembering this fact. It's nothing like a "Beats" overprice" or "Apple products" overprice. It's merely quality and its cost. You pay more if you want more.

Simply agreed. It's not that hard to understand the difference between facts and the OP's tantrum. And as much as I agree with them being a little overpriced, it doesn't hurt to remember they come with three cables, and that surely is one of the reasons for that overpricing.

1. When did I say "people without technical qualification are not allowed to express an opinion"? I think you're deliberately ignoring that, between a layman and a technically qualified person, it's OBVIOUS for any normal human being to give more credit to the last one. So I don't see where you got that assumption from. 2. I don't want to "win" arguments with technical aspects only, I simply point out that technical arguments are undeniably more relevant than the non-technical ones. It's not about "winning", it's actually a no brainer, and it's unbelievable that you're not able to see that. 3. It's nothing like I want to "present myself as a technical expert with years of study in a given subject". I'm just a rational person who, in the context of a technical subject, gives more points to what technically qualified people have to say than to what non-qualified people have to say. WHEN did I try to present myself as that? Please, amuse me ? 4. If you're talking about the M50x, I provided a myriad of reasons why the OP exaggerated A LOT in his review. With FACTS, not opinions. And if you're talking about the mathematical subject, I'm no expert to say who's technically right (therefore no one else's opinion has to "jell with mine"). I'm just not stupid to consider non-technical answers as right when I do have technical answers under my nose — ESPECIALLY answers which Max_Settings didn't have the knowledge to reply TECHNICALLY. 5. Well, IF you really had exercised that "ignore" option, you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself with a sequence of illogical (actually stupid) and wrong accusations, would you? I mean, any normal human being chooses technically qualified arguments over the non-technical ones. But not you, God knows why... ?

I appreciate your input on this. Finally someone who actually seems to know what he's talking about, unlike Max_Settings (who didn't have the qualification to technically answer Wielded1's post) and Lathlaer. I'm sure the vast majority of the readers (me included) couldn't understand or technically confront Wielded1's mathematical argument, and it's reasonable to assume he knows SOMETHING about the subject. Well, you're the first person who seems to be able to confront those arguments technically, and I respect that. Anyhow, this thing about Max_Settings X Wielded1 was a simple detail among everything of real importance that I said (and Max_Settings still wasn't able to answer technically). It doesn't change what I think about the topic and the OP's partiality regarding the M50x, as I exhaustively pointed out in the previous posts.

And you can also go to college, become an electrical engineer, actually KNOW what you're talking about through real Mathematics, stop believing in "online calculators" and stop embarrassing yourself in public forums. Sounds pretty reasonable to me. You seem like just another guy who takes Google for an answer for your health problems too. Well, that's what they say: ignorance is bliss.

You're saying it makes more sense believing a couple of random images taken from God-knows-where and the absolute lack of answer from Max_Settings to Wielded1's formula (really, tell me where's Max_Settings' answer to that), rather than believing an actual incontrovertible mathematical formula? Yeah, I dispute that.

I mean the guy who transcribed the MATHEMATICAL FORMULA proving the OP was unequivocally WRONG, to what the OP timidly responded, trying to divert from an indisputable matter (it's mathematical, there's only one correct answer): "You must of went to online college because you have no clue what you are talking about. 2 headphones with the same sensitivity require the same amount of power". It's like saying to a chicken "Look, this is the formula and this is Mathematics, so there's no other correct answer to what you're trying to mistakenly stand up for". And the chicken says "Cluck!". And then comes a guy like you trying to defend that "cluck" ? It's just unbelievable. But hey, just keep on unable to respond to everything else I justified here. Lack of real arguments was no more than I expected.

Are you trying to prove your point by showing Chris Martin using Beats in a BEATS INTERVIEW about Coldplay's album? https://twitter.com/beats1/status/669591890753363968 Sorry, but you're gonna have to try again, mate ? Maybe like THIS: Or THIS: By that logic, one would certainly assume that, of all musicians out there, Dr. Dre would use Beats in his studio, right? Well, not exactly ? https://cdn.head-fi.org/a/3195140.jpg Alan Parsons is also well known for having used M50s in the studios. You know, Alan Parsons, the legendary audio engineer, songwriter, musician and record producer. Do you think he needs any studio owner saying what he should wear on his ears? I don't think so. And who is Neil Peart again, to use these headphones on STAGE, right? https://cdn.head-fi.org/a/1330552.png I mean, at the end of the day, people will just bring out Beats when it comes to rap/hip hop/pop artists who are publicly known for being market sluts anyway: https://www.complex.com/music/2014/07/blatant-beats-by-dre-product-placement-in-music-videos/or-nah

No, you're not talking about music listening in this review. You're talking about everything. Are you really trying to contradict yourself in your own post, with everything you said being publicly available for anyone to read? And of course you CAN use any headphone. Where are you trying to get with this statement? It's like saying I can travel in any old iffy car, even while owning a Ferrari. Doesn't mean GOOD musicians will actually use crappy headphones to record their albums, especially legendary musicians who actually CARE and are PASSIONATE about sound perfection, not some industrialized rappers who will do anything for their ostentation money at the end of the day. "*every rapper ever* - Beats.", what a GREAT argument, wow. *Joker claps* But oh well, who am I trying to talk sense into, right? Someone who got absolutely obliterated by an electrical engineer and producer in this topic, but didn't have the guts to admit being wrong. I know the type. You know, the type that doesn't know what he's talking about and sounds stupid.

Rap? What kind of parameter does a mostly linear (technically) musical style represent to measure a headphone's total quality? Are you really trying to compare, for example, Porcupine Tree's absurdly complex music to RAP just to put Beats in that poor statement? (And did you really put "XXXTentacion" in that list? Was that supposed to give your statement some credit? Jesus Christ...) And, by the way, the rap industry is WELL KNOWN for exalting big company brands, "fashion" (I wouldn't call it that) trends and overall ostentation. Hell, Dr. Dre gives his NAME to Beats and you try to argue by pointing out the fact that he uses Beats? What's that supposed to mean?? Please, tell me ? So, what you're trying to say is: 1) We have to start from a premise concerning, basically, a conspiracy theory which would involve ALL youtubers, including a TON who actually KNOW what they're talking about, since Audio-Technica didn't send M50xs to EVERY youtuber who did a review about these headphones - that's factually out of their control. And we have to believe in all of that because... You're saying so? I think I'll just go with "no" on that one. You know, for knowing these headphones and for actual logical reasons. 2) We have to ignore an infinite number of positive reviews from outside of youtube, including a LOT of incredibly extensive and detailed analyses with graphics, dismantling, technical measurements, comparisons etc. All because of a blatant tantrum you have with these headphones (or simply because of a bad apple you got there), which ended up with you mixing up objective facts about the M50x's sound and your personal sound taste. You know, it's just embarrassing that you even TRY to get away with that with such a huge post.

Well, I guess Chris Martin (Coldplay), James Hetfield (Metallica), Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree), Joe Bonamassa and a ton of other uncontested musicians must be freaking unlucky for not knowing about the existence of this review. I mean, WHO are they, anyway, to know anything about what's good enough for recording their albums, when we have "Max_Settings" to tell otherwise, right? And just a heads up: they're not using M50xs for marketing purposes, like those plastic musicians who use Beats for the sake of trending. They RECORD things with them. I guess they must be on a budget, those poor unknown artists. But hey, let's just show them your "better" options with a bunch of graphics and a clearly tendentious taste about the M50x's sound! Right? :)