BootyDustBandit

booping my post cause i still need help, last time i'll do this as to not annoy people. also i never mentioned i have 32gb or crucial balistix 3200mhz ram (4x8gb) sorry.

so i built a new pc recently, i wanted brand new parts so i went out and got this intel core i7 8700k coolermaster hyper 212 evo black edition asus rog strix b360-h gaming 160gb intel ssd (2.5in and its sticker is worn so dont know the exact model) 1tb wd blue hdd (7.2k rpm) 16gb intel optane drive/ssd/unsure cause i know jack about optane gigabyte windforce oc gtx 1080 and a cooler master mb600l plus a 650w thermaltake psu (shush it was on sale dont crucify me for using TT psus i know they are garbo) well, the problem here is that the 160gb intel and the 1tb wd are both from my old rig and have windows with a bunch of irreplaceable things on it. back when i got this new pc i told myself that it would be fine and i could just plug it in to the sata ports and it would work, just had to reinstall drivers. NOPE. it detects all the drives (except the optane) in BIOS but it doesnt say that any of them are bootable. Now this is a big issue because i dont have ay way of doing, well, anything. if ayone has some ideas i would love some help on this, i dont really have time to research as college start tommorow (today, its 4AM and i just woke up) for me so i came here to see if i could get some wuick and easy help from the pros (or nerds depending on how you look at it.) FORGOT TO ADD (EDIT) BIOS Version is 2401 but i don't think thats the issue

damn, 16x 60a powerstage.....thats alota damage, anyway, I expected the hero to be higher up than that jeez, looks like my choice is between the top three there, though the apex is available next to nowhere as far as i can tell and i cant find pricing on it (though i am assuming its somewhere around 900 dollars because asus is literally the worst best ever at pricing things. I think i'm goin with the godlike if anything mostly because it looks like a easy board to use and I went and looked into the bios and I like it. Also, it looks like it would be fun/easy to mod the board which I plan to do (cosmetic stuff to match my build plans)

I also considered getting a MAXIMUS XI HERO call of duty 4 edition board, but I agree that a master would probably be a better board than any of these, seeing as all of these boards are stupid overkill (the MAXIMUS XI EXTREME it 700 dollars)

yeah the godli- oh, sorry i mean, THE MSI MEG GODLIKE was my first choice, the only thing I don't like is the EATX form factor, I have never really found a good case that truly supports EATX, a lot of them have cable management grommets and other things that get covered up when using EATX and others just look awful/ have terrible cable management solutions that aren't covered up.

So I have been looking around into more specifics on performance of components as it relates to the motherboard. From what I can tell it is pretty hard to get a "bad" motherboard unless you just pick the cheapest thing on amazon/pcpp/ebay that has the same socket. Now I think I have found four motherboards, and a few more I already ruled out because they weren't relevant, that have probably the highest performance but all are honestly overkill, maybe. Here are the boards in question: MSI- MEG Z390 GODLIKE ASUS- ROG MAXIMUS XI EXTREME (whats with the all caps?) ASUS- ROG MAXIMUS XI FORMULA (really?) GIGABYTE- Z390 AORUS XTREME (okay this is just ridiculous, did they leave caps lock on?) So really the question is just that which of these are better for several different things, given they have a 9900k in them. Overclocking, looks, support for RGB not only on the board but on everything else in a system, and the bios as far as ease of access/navigability goes.

I have some at home, and the screenshots don't appear to show the artifacting so I have to take pictures on my phone

okay i'm not 100% sure this is artifacting but the most common issue with this is that text get extremely disfigure in applications like discord and ocasioanally the window i'm focused one (not the whole screen) with loose basically all of the things on it being rendered by the gpu aside from things like wireframes and windows border around the actual window. So usually I can fix thing like this on my own, most of the time it's a bad driver and i fix it quickly. Nope. I spent hours checking different drivers, different driver settings and yet I still can figure out what in the world is wrong with this computer. It's a simple old gaming PC my friend brought in to me to clean and service since it was starting to run pretty hot and he has said that ever since he had the computer it had been having this issue. So I said I would clean the computer and then try to fix the issue and here I am two days later with no answer. The GPU is an asus RX 570, one of the strix cards. The processor is an A10-6800k which I put in about a year back because it originally had a A10-6700 and I have the 6800k laying around and just threw it in there for that extra clock speed since his board doesn't overclock (it does but its unstable). Not entirely sure Where to go from here, I will try testing it with a RX 590 I have or a 580 if I cant find which computer i left the 90 in. The problem isn't that bad, at least according to him since it only happens when he has games open or the system is under about half full load.

probably, maybe in RTX reveiws as well as the new VII cards. A lot has been released in the past few months so a lot of older articles are going to get buried.

i'll check this out, thanks.

yeah i have been loking for some articles too and have come up with basically nothing, i'll let you know if I find anything that might be useful.

been there, fx was a nightmare back before it melted a hole in my motherboard and lit my desk on fire. After that I did the smart thing and got an i7 4790k used from the facebook marketplace. (sadly I have sold off that machine to a kid i know for a fact plays Fortnite on it, but at least its still gaming) (edit: im an idiot it was a i7 4930k)

ah yes a detailed response thank you. So realistically its operating at 1200 DDR but would have the same or similar to 2400 in SDR? I must have misunderstood what was said in gamers nexus' article. So for my real use case, rendering video and 3D models as well as light gaming and VR, it really wouldn't make much sense to spend a ton more on memory just because of its slightly better timings, going from say 16-18-18-36 to 16-16-16-39?

1. i know they are, but how so 2. it is XD 3. ew....gross

productivity you say? well why should i care about productivity when i can have RGB lighting? jokes aside, what benefits are you talking about specifically? I know in things like 3d rendering (which I do a lot of) it makes a difference but never had time to test exactly how much. Also I am just expanding my knowledge of PC hardware so I am, relatively speaking, unexperienced and am just starting to actually do research on these sort of specific things that it seems most people don't really care about.

1. explanation? 2. maybe 3. not interested

I have been driving myself mad for several hours a day for the past 3 or 4 days doing research and taking notes to update my knowledge (or lack there of) on memory timings and what they actually do/how they work. I watched all of gamers nexus' videos on it and even referred to some of their articles that were mention such as the one from anandtech talking about sdram timings. So from what I currently understand, memory timings are very important for memory performance, but how much does this actually effect your in game/work performance? In more CPU intensive workload of course tighter timings will make a pretty decent improvement. Now for the other thing that I still cant understand because I found little to nothing on it, single sided vs double sided ICs. I know that double sided ICs will have tighter timings because of standards set by JEDEC on double sided ICs but how do I even know if it has this or not without looking at the manual for the memory at each individual website, making research on memory and absolute freaking nightmare of cluttered bookmarks and folders? They don't say really all too much in the specs anywhere other than at the website and even then its still undescriptive meaning going to the manual is the only real way to get more specific specs. Not to mention the fact that the actual speed of memory is half that of what is advertised out of the box. Then theres having to check specs on what the motherboard, cpu, soc, etc support which takes even longer. So is there an easier way? There has to be some website i am completely oblivious to that lists real specs of products, like userbenchmark but a little more in detail. So with all this research and frustration I never once thought to ask whether this was even worth it, if memory timings actually mattered enough that I would need to go through the trouble of doing this much work to compare memory and timings and all these other variables that potentially effect performance. well, i'm on to my next class so I am out of time to write, I will comment throughout the day and probably facepalm at some spelling, grammar, and technical errors in a bit. Edit: Adding more info, little more confusion. Also I notice several DDR4 DIMMs running 1.35v out of the box even though DDR4 is supposed to have an operating voltage of 1.2v, 1.35v is the operating voltage for DDR3L, i'll have to look into why this is on my own unless someone else has an answer here.

oof

eeeehhh lets just leave the details alone XD

well, when i'm allowed to livestream again that is XD

maybe I should clean it up and give it a home, maybe give it away to someone in my discord server or when i'm livestreaming

i never had a chance to really play with the older radeon cards really, i just saw what UB told me XD (and the fact that they are still 300 dollars on amazon because nobody bought them and they didn't update prices.)

okay, so I have this old card that I found in a storage bin in the box of an RX 560 since apparently this was the card in the system I have the 560 in and I was wondering what I should do with it. The card isn't too powerful and will probably run most games at 1080p but not with max settings obviously. So its pretty useless for gaming, so what to do with it? I thought maybe using it in a server or something at a later date or selling it or maybe mining with it (however unprofitable that may be) the card was free so as long as it pays for more then electricity costs i'm good. Of course it could just go in the old GPU pile and do nothing, but it at least has a little potential as far as how much power it has so I am interested to see what people think. newegg link to the same model: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127726

but i'm using a 2990wx....

sigh