Wonka0998

Thank you guys I'll go ahead and update. I also like to keep my systems up to date but the Windows problems that had been showing up were a real concern for me. Let's see how it goes!

I know that there's been a lot of bad things happening to people updating to newer Windows 10 versions, but I was doing a fresh install on my GF's computer today and noticed the Windows I installed was a bit different than the one I had. When I came back home I noticed in the Windows Updates settings that it's telling me my version will be out of support soon and to consider updating to the most recent version of Windows 10. I couldn't find any recent information about the current situation with updating to this version from an older version. Does it still cause problems after so many months since the most recent feature update version was released? Should I take any precautions or something else I need to know about updating from my current version to this one? Should I go with a fresh Windows install instead? It's not that I care a whole lot about the data I have in this PC, I literally just use it for gaming so everything is in the cloud pretty much. I have all my important stuff in my laptop which I guess I would also have to update, so I kind of want to test with my gaming PC first. Thanks! - Wonka0998

It was the game install. After reinstallation the frame rates were more related to my graphics settings than to whatever was going on before.

Ok I had some time this night to play around with this matter. I completely uninstalled the drivers I had, made sure Windows was updated and installed the latest drivers (20.4.1) making sure to mark the factory reset checkbox just in case. After doing that, I ran the following tests: 1) Medium custom settings 2) High custom settings 3) Odyssey optimized settings 4) The very lowest settings possible They ALL were getting the same FPS drops. It's just that the f*cking game doesn't want to use my hardware! GPU usage still goes to 30% usage when I get the drops, no matter what graphic settings I have in place. Even in the one area I was seeing the highest FPS I got 60 in the lowest settings and like 59 in high. The Odyssey optimized, which is like a high-very high mixup, was getting me around 53 FPS in that same area. I think even my laptop with a Quadro M1000M would get higher FPS in the lowest settings... At this point I think might just have a bad game install, so I uninstalled it and I'm going to try again once it finishes downloading again. I think the next update is going to be the last one, regardless of the results. If this doesn't work, I'll just embrace it and continue playing the game as is. I might lock the FPS to 30 and enable V-Sync to see if I can get a console like experience LOL

A little update, I have turned the graphic setting down to the medium preset with clouds and ambient occlusion off. I still see the same FPS drops. I ran the MSI Afterburner and started checking on some hardware resources usage to see what was going on and apparently when I see those FPS drops, the GPU is being used between around 30-50-90 percent, instead of running at 99% as it always does in pretty much any other game while I'm playing. It's not a CPU bottle neck because the CPU usage is nowhere near 100% either. It's not thermal throttling because I normally run the fans at 100% since I don't care about sound because I use headphones and run a gigantic fan in my room to cool it down (tropical whether struggles). The GPU thermals don't even reach 70°C. Any other game always runs just fine, I don't know what's going on with Origins that it refuses to use my hardware... I might try reinstalling the drivers and see if that helps.

Background Information: I wanted to play all the AC games in historic chronological order. I started with AC Odyssey which is the latest game released and also the one located farthest back in history. I finished it completely with all the DLCs and I'm now playing Origins, which is historically the next one and was the game released right before Odyssey. But man it's like that game wants to kill my PC! I played through Odyssey with the optimized settings from the HardwareUnboxed video and not even in Athens I got below my FreeSync range (44 FPS). I had a solid 60+ FPS experience with dips of 45-50 in large cities as I mentioned. I tried to apply the same graphical settings that I had in Odyssey as best as I could in Origins, but at the very beginning of the game I was getting 40-48 FPS in Siwa. It worsened when I got to Alexandria and I decided to do something about it when I started getting frame drops in the low 30s. I went ahead and used the High preset as well as disabled volumetric clouds and lowered the water to Medium. I was able to remain at about 50 FPS, but as I continued to play in Alexandria I started getting drops below the FreeSync range and it became unbearable with all the tearing and that kind of things. The current settings get me above 60 most of the times, but I don't want to have the drops below 44 FPS because that kills me in the cities. This really bothers me because it didn't happen in Odyssey which is even more demanding. I was unable to find much in the older posts about the game since it was released a few years ago. When people complained about poor optimization they got responses saying that just because the game is demanding and pushing the boundaries of hardware doesn't mean it's poorly optimized. But well if Odyssey was poorly optimized, I find Origins is even worst. Request: 1) Can anyone please help me with the best Radeon Software graphic settings for this game in particular, considering my hardware? 2) It would be nice to also have the global settings in the general sweet spot as well, if someone can help with that too. 3) Can anyone advise what would be the best in-game graphical settings for Origins with my hardware specs, considering the Radeon Software graphic settings? I know I might be asking for a lot, but I would much appreciate any help with this since I find the many available settings a bit overwhelming, especially after I did my own research and failed to get good results. Hardware Specs: CPU: Ryzen 5 2600 @ 3.92GHz Graphics Card: AMD RX590 Sapphire Nitro+ (stuck) RAM: 16GB DDR4 @ 2993MHz (can't get it any higher than that without crashing LOL) AMD RADEON Software version: 20.2.2 (current recommended version) I can provide any additional information that might be required. Thanks a lot for looking into this! - Wonka0998

Hi guys, A quick question, does these new APUs from AMD need the BIOS update that Zen2 processors need to work on old B450 motherboards? I wouldn't think so because these are not Zen2 but Zen+ CPUs, but I couldn't find a clear answer. Thanks in advance!

Thank you! Those actually quite nice, but they're not RGB. I might get three of them for the exhaust, but I'd like an RGB option for the front fans. Do you have any similar options but with RGB?

Yeah I know the actual temps of the GPU are not that bad since they are well below the 85C° threshold, but the relationship between the temps and overclock is what I think is affecting me. Yesterday I just didn't really want to crash because the room temperature was at 25-26C° so I changed my OC from 1650MHz to 1610MHz, hit 76C° in the GPU and didn't crash not even once. I think if I had been running 1650MHz I would've hit 80C° maybe and then crashed.

So recently I've noticed global warning is affecting my gaming experience. System specs: - R5 2600 @ 3.9GHz on all cores - Sapphire RX 590 Nitro+ @ 1650MHz GPU and 2250MHz Memory with fans running at 100% - Aorus Gaming Elite B450 motherboard - 3 intake Azza Hurricane 120mm fans - 1 cheap exhaust 120mm fan that came along with the cheap case Marvo CA-210 that has slots for 3 exhaust fans (1 at the back and 2 at the top) I don't really care about aesthetics that much because I put my case in a dedicated hole in my desk, but don't worry because it has plenty of space for a fairly good air flow. Acoustics are not a problem either because I'm a solo player so I just use my headphones and that's it. The problem I've been having is that since about a month ago, I've gotten crashes while playing because of the GPU. I noticed the crashes happen when the GPU temperature reaches +73C° approximately. I guess this temperature is unstable for the OC, because I used to reach stable 68-70C° and would never crash. I mostly play only AC Odyssey and I was able to notice the temperature reaches these values when I spend too much time in the menu. One other factor I think is affecting me is the room temperature. When I bought the system back in December 2018 the temperature was more stable at night when I play at about 21-22C°, but right now it's 24-25C° (I live in Costa Rica btw, tropical weather basically). Yesterday I played The Division 2 for like 20 min and the GPU reached 79° and the game crashed and then I said "no that's it, I need air flow..." In summary I used be able to play at the very edge of the crash before thanks to the room temp, but now I can't because it has increased. Since I'm no longer able to get around with the cheap air flow solution I have, I'd like to upgrade the intake and exhaust fans as well as get a heat sink for my R5 2600 to see if I can reach 4.2GHz. My questions would be the following: - What are the best high air flow fans I could get for my system? I need 3 intake RGB fans for the front (because it's the only part of the PC that can be seen), the other 3 exhaust fans can be ugly but with good performance. Maybe you can provide silent, value and high performance options. - What heat sink would be able to get me the 4.2GHz on my R5 2600 without being super over killed for my CPU? Again, maybe silent, value and high performance options would be good. Preferably high static pressure fans in the heat sink would be appreciated. - Would this even improve my situation with temps at all? Remember my RX590 is already running its fans at 100%. Thanks in advance!

Let's put aside any turbos or CPU features like that "gaming mode". Let's say we're just setting up the clock speed manually. What do you think then?

Yeah I agree that having 6/12 at 4.2GHz would be better than 4/8 at the same clock speed. However, what if we had 4/8 at 4.4GHz or more. Would that clock difference be worth it for gaming or would it actually perform the same due to the core count difference?

So I've been wondering, right now 4 cores 8 threads is pretty much the sweet spot for gaming in a price to performance ratio. I know that with less cores, you can generally have higher clock frequencies. So say for instance that I have an AMD Threadripper 32/64 at I don't know 3GHz locked on all cores. This CPU is clearly for heavy multithreaded workloads like rending and so. I wouldn't expect it to game much better than an i7 8700K at 5GHz on all cores, but I'd spect it to crush the i7 in CINEBENCH or any other task that benefits from that insane amount of cores and threads. Now, you can actually disable cores and not use them at all to the point where they don't even show up in Windows. So what if I had this CPU for profesional rendering or whatever, but also wanted to game on it (let's say I have an RTX 2080Ti and I'm gaming at 720p low settings, just to get that out of the way and make sure we're not GPU bottlenecked). With the context set, these are my questions: 1) Could I just disable cores on the Threadripper and be left with 4/8 and bump the clock speed of only those cores to something like +4.2GHz, just when I'm going to game and get back to 32/64 at 3GHz when rendering again? 2) Would it actually cause a gaming benefit over the 34/64 at 3GHz? That's the hypothetic scenario I've set to explain my point, but I'm interested because I've got an R5 2600 6/12 CPU and I'd like to know if I'd get a better gaming performance if I disable a couple of cores and bump up the clocks, generally speaking of course because I know that some games actually benefit from more cores and I believe that is what we should expect in the future as we move forward with CPU technologies and gaming development and optimization to make use of it. I found this to be a very interesting topic to discuss and if someone can actually test it out and share the results, it'd be awesome. I plan on testing my 2600 whenever adult life gives me a chance lol

Hi guys! I'm planning to get a new mid-tower case for gaming. I think the components that matter the most for this topic are the CPU and GPU inside it: Ryzen 5 2600 AMD RX580 (or RX590 if it has launched for when I get the PC) So basically I'm kind of worried about the place where the case will be placed. I have a wooden desk which has a dedicated space to put the computer case into it. It's a very closed hole where I think the case will fit perfectly with about 1-2 cm free at the sides and plenty of space for the rear part and the front, and I'd say some decent space for the top part too. The back side of that part of the desk is closed, so I'll have to open a little hole in it to send the cables for my peripherals through it. However, I was going to basically get some fans into the case and the stuck cooler that comes along with the CPU. I am wondering if you guys think this might cause some issues with the air flow and if it might affect the overall cooling and performance of the PC. I know that a liquid cooling solution would be the best in pretty much any scenario because of the fact that water is better than air at conducting heat. But I want to know if I'm going to be thermal throttling all the time or if I should be just fine with the stuck air cooling. As a last resource I could even end up getting rid of the back side part of the desk that is closing that hole if you think that might help the air flow. Thank you guys in advance for any responses, they are much appreciated!

Sounds good man, I think you've opened my eyes, thanks! Well the thing is that I don't wanna go so cheap. I do have budget for a middle range PC that I'd like to keep for longer than what an already 2 generations old low end hardware could stand. About the price I listed, it's because I live in Costa Rica, central America. That means that a Ryzen 5 2600 that costs 159USD on Amazon costs 210USD through Amazon Global without any warranty, and 235USD at the best computer store in my country with unbeatable prices and warranty. Now imagine adding 76USD to each one of the parts or something around that depending on what part it is... What I listed is the best price I could get... T.T The 144Hz monitor is because I'm also planning to play other older titles that I've always wanted to play, like the whole assassins creed franchise and so... And also because it gives more scalability if I get a better machine in the future. Yeah I think I'll go the desktop route exclusively for gaming, because I don't rely too much on AMD's virtualization capabilities on consumer CPU's. My laptop is powerful enough to get my virtual labs done. It's not a pre-built, I did choose some questionable parts on purpose to save some bucks Feel free to let me know what I should change Thanks! I think I'll still go with the desktop instead because if I bring that eGPU and it doesn't work for incompatibility or whatever, I can't get a refund or find someone else interested in buying something like that in my country; it's just too risky. And the desktop will provide me the scalability I need for the future when I happen to have a few more bucks to put in my Hobbie. Thank you all for your responses! They are much appreciated!!