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breadswonders

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About breadswonders

  • Title
    Newbie

System

  • CPU
    Threadripper 3960X
  • Motherboard
    Asus Zenith II Extreme Alpha
  • RAM
    G.Skill Trident Z Neo 3600MHz CL16
  • GPU
    Zotac GTX 1060
  • Case
    CaseLabs STH10
  • Storage
    Intel 750 480GB, Samsung 840 EVO 500GB, Samsung 840 PRO 250GB, Kingston HyperX 240GB, Mushkin Chronos Enhanced 480GB
  • PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G2
  • Cooling
    Custom loop
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 & Debian
  1. Summary Samsung's new 980 PRO NVMe SSD is set to take full advantage of PCIe 4.0 (most likely only in large sequential file transfers), operate with reduced power consumption, and handle significantly more IO commands than previous generations. Samsung has also confirmed that a 2TB model will be slated for later release. Further, Samsung is positioning the 980 PRO as an upgrade or replacement drive for next generation consoles. Quotes My thoughts This is basically a fluff piece seemingly targeted at more mainstream users (who won't know to question their large sequential transfer numbers), with some interesting information mixed in. I am quite certain that this article was not meant to be released, especially since Samsung has not officially launched the product, so this is an interesting insight into how they are going to be marketing this SSD, most notably, they will likely spend some time advertising this directly to console gamers, as evidenced by the article, and suggest that it would be a good upgrade for the PS5 (also unreleased). The article includes a link that will presumably redirect to the actual product page when it launches. Thermals: Samsung goes to some effort to talk about their "Dynamic Thermal Guard" (DTG) and the reduced power consumption of the new SSD, and on the leaked webpage we can see that the 980 PRO has a maximum operating temperature of 70 degrees, however, the webpage also lists the average and max power consumption as 6.2W and 8.9W, which are higher than the 970 PROs average and maximum power draws of 5.2W and 8.5W. To me, this suggests that the 980 PRO may run hotter than it's predecessor, and the talk about thermal management is at best a "cope" and at worst preemptive gas-lighting, but that may be a little harsh for a PCIe 4.0 SSD without a large heat-sync. Performance: Now the juicy stuff. Comparing the specs for the 1TB 980 PRO with the 1TB 970 PRO: QD32 random read speed is up to 1,000,000 IOPS from the 500,000 IOPS of the 970 PRO (50% improvement) QD32 random write speed is up to 1,000,000 IOPS from the 500,000 IOPS of the 970 PRO (50% improvement) QD1 random read speed is up to 22,000 IOPS from the 15,000 IOPS of the 970 PRO (46% improvement) QD1 random write speed is up to 60,000 IOPS from the 55,000 IOPS of the 970 PRO (9% improvement) We can also see what the 980 PRO will throttle back to after it writes through it's storage buffer from this tidbit on the leaked webpage: Now these are just the numbers from Samsung, but I am looking forward to see if we will get any real world performance improvements over the previous generation, as PCIe 4.0 SSDs up to this point have been completely disappointing in this respect (unless you frequently move around 100s of gigabytes of data). Launch Date and Pricing: I have no idea when the 980 PRO will launch, but I'm guessing that it will be very soon (next 14 days) as this fluff piece seems to be the second leaked webpage about the product (assuming that Samsung didn't mean to write an advertisement about a product they have not officially launched, with a product link that doesn't go to a product page), though, this is purely conjecture. As for pricing, I have no information, though it's not for lack of trying. I dug through a lot of the leaked webpage HTML to try and find anything pointing to a price but could find nothing, I even went so far as to try and trick the "Where To Buy" popup into showing me info about the 980 by transplanting the model and stock numbers into it from the 970 EVO PLUS webpage to no avail. Further, sending an HTTP GET request to their "Where To Buy" API returns an error message about the product not being stocked or manufactured, so the product doesn't seem to exist in that database yet (or it does and it's disabled). If I had to guess, the pricing will probably be higher 970 PRO, but with COVID, interrupted supply chains, and the inevitable heat-death of the universe, who knows what could happen. Sources Fluff piece: https://insights.samsung.com/2020/09/11/ditch-the-glitch-samsungs-980-pro-is-a-pc-gamers-delight/ Wayback backup: https://web.archive.org/web/20200912024212/https://insights.samsung.com/2020/09/11/ditch-the-glitch-samsungs-980-pro-is-a-pc-gamers-delight/ Leaked webpage: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ydxmMP8mhi4J:https://www.samsung.com/sg/memory-storage/980-pro-nvme-m2-ssd/MZ-V8P1T0BW/+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca Wayback backup: https://web.archive.org/web/20200912024747/https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3AydxmMP8mhi4J%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.samsung.com%2Fsg%2Fmemory-storage%2F980-pro-nvme-m2-ssd%2FMZ-V8P1T0BW%2F+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca
  2. I definitely regret buying one of these. I got one for my iPhone 8 Plus, and I have had problems from day one. Main issues: The plastic on the top left corner has recently broken after a few light falls onto carpet, and it only being help together by the rubber bumper on that corner. Because of the way I take my phone out of my pocket, the top left corner has worn down to nothing. The ringer switch basically didn't work and was extremely stiff until the plastic in the top right corner broke. Now the switch consistently turns my ringer on while my phone is in my pocket, and yes, the ringer switch is properly positioned in the case. The case is raised around the rear camera to protect it from getting damaged, because of this, the case does not sit flat on any surface, meaning that only the gripping material near the top and bottom of the case ever make contact with anything. It it not nearly as grippy as was advertised, even when my phone is screen down (where all of the gripping material is actually making contact with the surface). When I try to lean the phone up against anything on it's side, it just slides down and falls on it's back. This happens because there is a dead zone where none of the gripping material makes contact with the surface at any angle beyond 90 degrees. The Grip may work really well for some phones, but not for the iPhone 8 Plus. It's not that I got a bad case, it's that the design is flawed, and if dbrand gave me a new one for free, I wouldn't use it unless it was completely redesigned. I don't blame LTT for this, as I haven't heard any horror stories about dbrand products in the past, and I'm guessing that LTT assumed this would turn out as well as the other dbrand products, what does bother me is that we haven't gotten the response that Linus said we would (4 months ago), and that they have continued to take sponsorship's from dbrand without said response.
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