DwayneElizondo

So, I have some spare hardware lying around, and was thinking of consolidating all my movies and tv series in a single unit, rather than the 5+ external hdd I have. I was thinking about buying an already ready NAS enclosure (synology or similar), but then I though about having a little more flexibility with a proper pc (like torrenting in the background). So, my hardware is a 7400 + z270 mobo, 8gb ddr4, an old GT630 and 2x 4tb nas drives. I read around about other OS/Filesystem, but: - FreeNas seems a lot overcomplicated for just the benefit of the ZFS file system (I don't have mission critical data to save on this machine, just movies) - plus the ram requirements are a little too expensive given the current ram prices - UnRaid is the other option I considered, but having to pay a license for just the advantage of the parity disk seems to much (if I can get my hand on another 4tb drive I could go for raid5 just to feel a little safer) So basically my question is: If I just want to use this machine to store files, and play them over a home network (basically to other pcs), do I really need Plex and other stuff, or I can just use the basic windows folders sharing? Would I lose something in terms of performance (like long buffering for movies, etc)? I'm a total noob on the subject, and I'd like to achieve the max result without overcomplicating/overspending - thanks.

Z chip are for overclocking - usually they have a better power delivery system compared to the other chips of the same gen (h270, b250) Usually the top of the line boards of an oem are always z-chip (asus has the rog maximus in this case) - and they work pretty well - in this case though the itx form factor "crams" a bit all the components in a smaller area, so heat is not dissipated as efficiently as in other bigger form factors - especially for those components which are not usually per-se cooled (vrm, chipset, m.2). Basically if you're not careful enough messing with the vrms and then overclock you can risk frying your board with a higher probability compared with the stock solution. If you're not planning to OC buying a z-chip is basically wasting money - on an itx form factor there is usually little difference between b and h chips (while on bigger atx/eatx forms z chips allow for more Sata ports, pcie, etc)

Honestly, you should just go with another aircooler, or better yet an AIO. It's just too much of a hassle just to keep the R1. It depends also on what cpu are you going to use, and how much you're going to OC - my 7700k is hot like the sun, the R1 had to go on full force before I delidded it to keep it on acceptable temps under load. Coming from a fried mobo I am not a fan of messing with vrm/mosfet cooling, especially on a z-chip. If you're not in a hurry, I can give you the precise measurements early next week, I'm out of town for the we.

I moved from a fried Z270E to a Z270I and tried to recycle the R1 - didn't work and had to go with an aio. Even if you try to fit it sideways (ie blowing up or down the case) the back pipes came out of the cpu heatsink at such low angle that they touch the ram & mosfet sink with the plate not making perfect contact with the cpu.

It won't fit. The pipes on the back heatsink tower touch the mosfet heatsink, and the cooler won't make perfect contact with the cpu. You can turn it the other way, but be prepared to sacrifice the first ram slot.

Hi, in the quest for a stable 5.0 ghz overclock on my 7700k I've fried my mobo ( oh joy oh joy). Now, having to change mobo I also decided to upgrade a few thing, and also change form factor, moving from atx to itx - I've read on forums and alike that a new clean install of OS and apps would be preferable in case of a mobo change, but I my situation, with an "orizontal" change, going from a z270E to a z270I asus (Same brand, same chipset), is it really necessary? 'Cause my boot drive is a 500gb m.2 which is almost full of stuff, and reinstalling everything wuold be a real hassle. Win10 was an oem copy, so I'll probably have to buy another key, but other than that I don't really foresee any problem... thanks

It could be that the ihs doesn't make perfect contact with the die, so as soon as you ramp up usage the increased temps aren't efficiently dissipated to the cooler.

They are the same company now, overclockers was acquired by caseking in 2012

The 7700k is pretty toasty as a cpu - mine was touching 95C at stock under full load with ambient temps of 22-24C. It seems you've gotten one unlucky chip too - my solution was to switch to a bigger cooler (went to the Cryorig R), and delid. Now it sits at around 70C at 4.7Ghz.

I'm not saying that Intel panicked for Spectre/meltdown - I'm saying that they panicked for Ryzen. AMD is launching right now the second gen, which would've been compared to the 8-th gen intel that should've launched around the same period of kaby lake - i.e. january. By rushing coffe lake intel managed to have its 6-core cpus compared to the first gen ryzen and gain back the month-on-month supremacy in sales that it lost after ryzen launched. If fixing this thing is not that easy, than maybe you shouldn't ship a product with such vulnerability and expect to be able to fix it at a "later date" There's a big difference between selling something that structurally could be targeted by vulnerabilities, and selling something you KNOW is vulnerable. There is criminal deception in the fact that Intel did not disclose that their new cpus (and a huge chunk of old ones as well) were susceptible to a known bug. In simpler terms, would a lot of the people who bought a coffe lake cpu still buy them after being disclosed to the real and at this moment known vulnerabilities of it? Some would say yes, some no. Intel did not give us the choice; it's like with cigs, if you know that they can give you cancer you can choose to smoke or not, and then if you die, well, you knew beforehand the risks.

1) AMD was supplying a product line that was already out - still guilty of releasing a faulty product, but less than Intel 2) 8700k was out of stock for months after it's release date + Kaby lake was released only 7 months earlier - don't tell me it wasn't a panic reaction by Intel on ryzen 3) Yes, were working without having the certainty that those patches were going to work. You don't sell a car with a faulty airbag expecting to be able to figure out a fix a couple of months later 4) From google fraud noun wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain. Intel sold new cpu fully knowingly that they were susceptible to spectre/meltdown. And yes, imho they should've at least not rushed coffee lake release. Yes, AMD is guilty too. But Intel didn't have the Cooffee lake skus ready at all. A responsible company would've waited till january to relase the new platform, probably with a patch already applied (and exaclty 1y after kaby lake). IMHO they didn't expect the success of ryzen, and expecting Coffee lake to be launched with an higher clocked Zen+ as direct competition, they preferred to rush it to make it compete with the "slower" Ryzen 1xxx.

There is also the fact that the majority of Ryzen cpus were released before Spectre/Meltdown were discovered (I think only threadripper was launched after, but is was practically too late for it), while Intel accelerated the release of Coffee Lake to counter AMD, fully knowingly that the were releasing faulty cpus with no patch at hand - basically the definition of fraud

A bit of advice for Asus boards - be careful with the auto-OC feature, as in some cases will make voltages fluctuate hard, resulting in massive spikes of temps - and the 8700k is not a hot chip like the 7700k (in the forum there is already a thread about a 8700k spiking at 100C in AC:Origins).

Pretty normal, 7700k is a very hot chip. On stock until you hit the mid-80's while under full load you shouldn't be concerned about temps.