Brennan808

I would suggest getting a cheap air cooler 100% not just for this time but for any time you cannot use the loop much like Zusafek said, make sure to test both of the cpus if you do get the cooler. The good news is that I am almost certain both motherboards are just fine if the problems are from heat-related issues. Best of luck with your build!

Yeah I did some testing on this a while back with a really old amd cpu and just giving power to it would make it spike up to 90 C and it would shut down, I am not sure how the system works for the newer Intel processors but this is just how it was with those and I assume it is similar.

I think that may be your problem then, cpus can get hot quick and if it got too hot then the startup would be aborted, it looks like in your picture you are getting power to the board so I am almost certain this is your problem. There may be a chance that the cpus are okay but I would not attempt to start it up without a cooler again.

So the fans never even started spinning?

That's tricky without having a stock cooler, when you tried to boot the board with the other cpu did you have the cooler on? I worry that you may have damaged your cpu without the cooler if it was booted for five minutes.

The first time that you tried to turn it on did you have the cooler? When you tried to boot it for the first time how long did you wait before shutting it back down? Do you still have the other CPU you tested with?

Hey, any help I can get is appreciated I have been banging my head against the wall for the past hour trying to find a solution to my low framerate in Rainbow Six Seige. First off my pc is older but here are the specs: -EVGA GTX 670 -Intel Core I5 3570 -10gb DDR3 -640gb HDD -Asus MOBO -450W EVGA PSU With this PC I can play games like PUBG on medium settings no problem and COD WWII runs at high with no issues, but the second I load up Rainbow I get framerates ranging from 8-40 with the settings it is running at making very little difference (1-5FPS more on minimum then max). I am almost sure it is the game that is the problem and not my PC because my pc is better than the recommended config and I have no thermal issues with either my card or my CPU. I have tried changing my NVIDIA Control Panel settings to many different things but to no avail. So are there any ideas as to what is causing this? Thank you for reading this and I hope someone can help me.

I think I am going to do what Lurick suggested and order the cheaper one and if its junk return it. Thanks for the help though!

There are lots of cables around this price range and that advertise cat 6 is this to good to be true? https://www.amazon.com/KabelDirekt-Gigabit-Ethernet-Snagless-Connector/dp/B016A913LY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1516042788&sr=8-3&keywords=ethernet+cable+100+ft+gigabit

I need a 100ft + ethernet cable that will be run from my modem to my room. I have high speed internet (fibre 1 gig) and need a cable that can provide that, there are plenty of ethernet cables on amazon that advertise 10gig + speeds for cheap ($10-$15) but I don't know if they can provide those speeds in reality. Thanks!

Use this handy little tool to get an estimate on how many watts your system will pull. http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

Yeah they all have similar coolers so looks is the deciding factor here. Have fun with that rig!

I agree a formula cannot be used as a standard like this because different generations of cards have different performance improvements over the last, take the gtx 500-600 series. A HUGE difference between the 560 and 660. It really depends on the cards capability to game currently.

A reference card will be better in most sff builds because they exhaust out the back, but in a larger case with sufficient airflow an aftermarket card will be better because it can cool better.

Ok thanks so much!