WaryMaroon

Thanks for the info on layout, especially the diagrams. Sounds like exactly where I would have ended up at once I have the case and had a chance to play with fit. Yeah, I'd rather have easy, straightforward draining than easy, straightforward filling. Oh hey. Of course someone already did that. I found someone selling those radiators. Feels like they might not be manufactured anymore, so tempted to go buy one from the one source I found quick before supply vanishes, but it's kinda pricey for right now.

I would have rather had a bigger reservoir as well (or even better, a distribution block), but I didn't buy the kit for the reservoir. Unfortunately, I bought it back in December, and now physically have the kit, so "buying something else instead" is... not a practical option. The pros and cons you list are fair points, but I think for me, the price difference between getting the fittings I would need to actually get everything set up properly vs. the cost of the reservoir is the biggest argument. I was hoping that by designing the loop to be drained and filled easily first, price second, and looks third, I could cut a huge amount of work out of the equation. But that brings up... I definitely see a need for cleverness. Frankly, I'm curious about a radiator that does one-way water flow (vs. the u-turn approach currently popular). But I don't think EK makes such a thing (haven't looked), nor was it in the kit, so nvm that train of thought. I wound up buying a case, rather than trying to mod the case my current desktop is running in right now. I shouldn't have, but oh well. A Phanteks Eclipse P600S. Shipping looks like it'll be pretty quick, so hopefully I can start laying things out soon (even though I can't/won't be using a graphics card I can water cool). With that said, let's look back at: Yeah, my thought was to route the loop in basically a big square around the outside of the case, so that there's bits of the loop near the case's fill port and near the drain port. And also so that filling/draining could be as straightforward of a process as possible. We'll see how close I get to that ideal.

There is no loop setup currently; this is for a brand new desktop. So new, in fact, that I've been trapped in GPU unavailability hell. I'm going to do the planning for a CPU/GPU loop, but then put in a GPU that I have no interest in water cooling (probably an RX-580, because it's what I have lying around), and roll with it until I can actually buy a 6800 XT that's compatible with the kit's included GPU block. Coincidentally, that's why I don't quite have a case picked out. I could re-use the case I have, or I could try to get a new one that actually has space for a fill port and a drain port built-in. My current plan for the layout is is: front-rad with the ports down pump-reservoir near the front centered vertically, against the motherboard tray (with brackets) CPU block in the usual spot Vertical-mounted GPU GPU -> CPU, CPU -> Fill Port -> Reservoir, Reservoir -> Radiator, Radiator -> Drain Port -> GPU OK, so if I use a ball joint, instead of the Quantum Torque drain valve, I save $5 from the valve, and $14 from not needing the extender, at the expense of the ball valve not quite fitting in aesthetically (not quite the right metal, different design aesthetic). On the plus side, floating ball valve; maybe I don't need a dedicated drain port cut into the case itself, elegant as it would be to know for a fact the drain valve is at the lowest spot in the loop. The kit includes a bottle designed for filling the reservoir directly; just unscrew the plug on the radiator, fill to below the hole, juggle the fluid, and presto, all set. As you can imagine, I was hoping for something slightly more elegant (like knowing for a fact that the fill port is always at the very top of the loop for easy filling), but maybe I'm over-engineering again. The EK kit I linked to includes a flat res/pump, that already includes spots for a fill port and a drain port. Not sure it makes quite as much sense for me to use them in a case that can front-mount a 360mm radiator, but whatever.

Kinda new to water cooling, pardon the novice question. Last year, I picked up EK's AMD-themed kit, but now I need to figure out how to add a fill port and a drain port to the kit (the fewer shenanigans I can be doing while filling/emptying the loop, the better). I'm also trying to make sure the new fittings blend in with the existing fittings, so trying to stick to the Quantum line-up. Can I get some recommendations on what fittings I'd need to do this? Extra info: I'm assuming that I'm going to have to "interrupt a run" in order to get the aesthetics of the runs to make any sense. I note the quantum T-joints have one side male and two sides female, but I'm stumped on how I'm supposed to use that to make runs that look good with either a front-rad or a top-rad. Possible Case 1: Cooler Master H500P ( CM's website , this is one I already have, but would require modding) Possible Case 2: Phanteks Eclipse P500A ( Newegg , this is one I could get, it looks like it has a drain port but not a fill port?) Open to suggestions on economical cases that have a fill port and drain port. Here's what I came up with, but please correct me if I'm wrong: 2x Tee-joints, each of: 1x https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-torque-angled-t-satin-titanium 2x https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-torque-stc-10-16-satin-titanium 1x https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-torque-extender-static-ff-14-satin-titanium Extra parts for just the drain port: 1x https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-torque-drain-valve-satin-titanium Extra parts for just the fill port: 1x ??? (I have no idea for this bit) Extra parts just to make the aesthetics match up: 1x https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-torque-stc-10-16-color-rings-pack-red-10pcs (because the kit includes a colored ring on its fittings... ) Any help is appreciated. Just trying to make heads or tails of their line-up vs. the kit I have. Oh, and avoid having to trust myself with precise modding.

Interesting! Here's what I found about processor groups: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd405503(v=vs.85).aspx TL;DR, they're designed to allow Windows to support more than 64 logical processors on a single computer (ie, server environments, supercomputers). Here's where it gets fun: ...64 cores is kind of a lot... It sounds like MS could use processor groups to fix a lot of Ryzen performance oddities in one fell swoop. The downside here is that if they turn Ryzen into a two-group CPU, applications will need to do their own thread affinity to cross the core complex divide, and that's probably not something AMD wants. Because of that, I suspect MS could find a better way to handle things. Well, it'll be interesting to see what MS does, and hopefully readers of this thread find the topology choices interesting.

I was looking at sysinternals' CoreInfo program, and something caught my eye that made me curious: If anyone with a Windows/i7 or a Windows/Ryzen system could check what the logical processor to group map is on their computers, I'd be interested in seeing that, given the hubub about core complexes on Ryzen. I'm on an AMD FX 6300, for what it's worth.