Hamsandwich283

Got board and hungry while watching 45drive tutorials.

Yeah maybe, I spoke with Asus Tech support about what was happening and they wanted to RMA my MOBO but don't think there is anything wrong with the board itself just maybe the BIOS as i can get pretty good results if i set things manually it is not perfect and different CPUs will be able to achieve different results (silicon lottery) but if you feel up to it you can try this 1. Turn off PBO (Precision Boost Overdrive) in Bios, test it with just this change and see how it goes, if still no good proceed to next step 2. Manually set the CPU voltage from 1.47v to 1.25v and SOC voltage from 1.15v to 1.1v 3. Manually set the CPU clock rate, to do this turn the AI overclock tuner setting to Manual, make sure your BCLK frequency is set to 100 then change the core ratio to 45 to 47 my CPU was able to maintain stability at 46 (4600MHz) across all cores with CPU voltage of 1.25v, i might be able to go higher but need to do more testing, with minor adjustments you might be able to even achieve 47 (4700MHz) but run multiple runs of R20 or CPU burner to check for stability, if it crashes it is back to the drawing board. the way these CPUs are made (keep in mind I'm not ripping on manufacturers when i say this this is just how it be) you will have differing quality CPU cores some will be able to hit 4900MHz no problem but some might only be able to hit 4500MHz and this can hold back the CPU when manually setting core frequency unless you could control the frequency limit of each individual core which probably would cause other problems in it of itself with cores being out of phase with each other

I have been testing for about 2 weeks now and i have made some discoveries, still fine tuning but have made some improvements So stock settings right out the box below: MOBO = B550 F Gaming CPU = Ryzen 7 5800x CPU Voltage = 1.47v SOC Voltage = 1.15v BIOS Version = 1202 BIOS Temp = CPU 50°c / CPU package = 61°c Idle temp = 32°c R20 Max Temp = 90°c Cooler = Noctua NH-u12s R20 Single core = 623 (Max Temp During R20 single core run = 61°c) R20 Multi core = 6015 (Max Temp During R20 muti core run = 90°c) Turbo Boost clocks during cinabench R20 load: CPU Single core max frequency = 4850MHz CPU Multi core max frequency = 4550MHz ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So my current manually set settings: TURN OFF PBO (Precision Boost Overdrive) MOBO = B550 F Gaming CPU = Ryzen 7 5800x CPU Voltage = 1.25v SOC Voltage = 1.1v BIOS Version = 1202 BIOS Temp = CPU 40°c / CPU package = 50°c Idle temp = 36°c R20 Max Temp = 82°c Cooler = Noctua NH-u12s R20 Single core = 590 (Max Temp During R20 single core run = 53°c) R20 Multi core = 6095 (Max Temp During R20 muti core run = 82°c) Turbo Boost clocks during cinabench R20 load: CPU Single core max frequency = 4600MHz CPU Multi core max frequency = 4600MHz ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So couple of things to go over: First. PBO (Precision Boost Overdrive), This setting in the BIOS basically goes what are voltage limits and ignores the stock settings and what you might set manually as well as it gives the system permission to pushing the CPU to the limit going over the set parameters, so turn this off, it dose help with single core performance, not by a lot but dose help but on the other hand in my case it seemed to hurt multi core performance at the same time Second. better temps, So i have run Furmark CPU burner on top of R20 and with stock setting it would hit 90°c in about 1-2 minutes on a 16 thread stress test and start to thermal throttle as you can see the frequency dropping by a 1MHz every few seconds as you continue to stress test it, with the adjustments i have made the temps seemed to average out at 85.5°c going up and down between 85.2°c to 85.7°c and not thermal throttling after several minutes testing (i have not done very long testing like 30-60min stress tests yet). but what I'm seeing is i have been achieving a high all core frequency then stock setting with less voltage and no thermal throttling (yet, still need to do prolonged testing) Third. Lower clocks Yes i have sacrificed a small bit of single core performance by limiting the frequency to 4600MHz but i have gained more multi core performance with better temps, as for gaming FPS in the games i play i feel like i have actually gained an extra 5-10 FPS but within margin of error but i have not lost any performance in the games i play Please Note: the below is not proper testing, just my observation of the FPS counter in the top left that i always have running Beam.NG - before it would sit around 160FPS mostly | after my changes it seemed to sit around 170 mostly (location: Desert map - gas station ) Assassins creed origins - before it would sit around 70FPS mostly | after my changes it seemed to sit around 75 mostly (location: Second city you visit after leaving home town) I play more games then this but I have not being done a hole lot of that in the past 2 weeks, been a few nights playing around in the bios till 1am . I need to do more proper testing and more fine tuning of the settings but a bit exhausted with all this at the moment and need to take a break from tweaking settings, I have found a configuration that dose not max out my temps under full load and works well in performance, yeah I'm good for the moment , hopefully all this might help out someone else as well

Hi all, just doing a bit of data collection on Ryzen 5000 series but ideally on Ryzen 7 5800x if you have data on that or have the CPU yourself, just trying to get a picture of whether or not there is any discrepancys or not in relation to the 5000 series stock settings as there is not a lot of data online about it yet Stock settings not over locks pls. Question 1. What mobo are you using Question 2. What CPU are you using Question 3. What is the bios CPU voltage Question 4. What is the bios SOC voltage Question 5. what is your Bios version Question 6. What is the bios idle temps Question 7. What is the ryzen master idle temps Question 8. What cooler are you using Question 9. What is the peak core voltage in ryzen master under full cinabench R20 load Question 10. What is the peak temperature in ryzen master under full cinabench R20 load Question 11. Will you sign your soul away to me , no pressure. Question 12. What are your cinabench scores with about settings If you don't have ryzen 5000 but have seen other peoples results online somewhere please do add them, trying gather what I can My results (stock settings no overclock): 1. B550 F Gaming 2. Ryzen 7 5800x 3. 1.47v 4. 1.15v 5. Version 1202 6. CPU 50°c / CPU package = 61°c 7. 32°c 8. Noctua NH-u12s 9. 1.47v 10. 87°c 11. No 12. Single core = 623, Multi core = 6015

What is your bios version?

Oops miss read, sorry

I don't believe the 400 series motherboards have support for 5000 ryzen yet, that is supposed to come in an BIOS update early next year

Yeah that was the first thing I tried, tried 2 different coolers and not much difference between the two except for the noctua NH-U12S performed slightly better then my Corsair water cooler, the paste application was good, mount is solid,

I have found that there is an older bios that is still compatible with the ryzen 5000 series that appears to be better with lower voltages and temps at about the same scores B550 F Gaming 1212 vesion Latest BIOS - 4,850MHz at 1.47v / cinabench, single core = 623 - Multi core = 6017 / Max temp = 89-90°c 1202 version Older BIOS - 4,850MHz at 1.37v / cinabench, single core = 622 - Multi core = 6015 / Max temp = 85-86°c

I would be curious to see and collect data on what MOBOs people are using and what the stock voltage is and the temps in the BIOS and see if there is a pattern

Sounds like a bug with the bios, how about if you manually set it to 1.25v or 1.3v or 1.425v, dose it work then? Try the 1.25 and 1.3 first before going higher and let me know how it performs

Ok I will try when I get home

Yeah, maybe they will patch it soon already running the latest BIOS. I dropped the offset further to -0.075v and it brought the temps down by about another 5-6°c underload but did have a little bit of a hit to performance.

Interesting, what we have noticed so far is the temps seem to be a result of the high voltage. In the BIOS the voltage is static at 1.47v which gets me 50-51°c on the CPU and 61-64°c on CPU package As has been suggested to me above I have put in place a -0.05v offset which brought the voltage in the BIOS down to about 1.425v which changed the temps to CPU 45°c and CPU package 55°c This did not hurt my single core score in cinabench at all getting 623 as I did before the change but the temps went from 58-60°c during the run to 52-54°c during the run As for my multi core performance I did drop about 40 points of my score going from 6017 to 5975 but the temps did drop from 88-90°c during the run to 85-86°c during the run I have yet to do sustained load testing to see if it reaches 90°c or not so may not be perfect but dose seem to help with minimal impact to performance

Need to play around with it a little bit more but 1am at the moment for me so I'm going to get some rest