Healadin

don´t wanna jinx it, but I tried upgrading windows from 10 to 11 and it seems like it might have done the trick - Kingston RAM runs at 6000 MHz CL32 and whole weekend without a freeze

aaand I already got like 3 freezes today, tried these 3 profiles so far but noticed something interesting - that armoury crate I mentioned, that I am using for lights, when PC freezes, also the lights that go through aura freeze, havent noticed it until now, but maybe its somehow connected? rest of the lights go through L-connect (lian-li software and they continue animating), only lights that are controlled by aura (AiO cooler and its fans that are mounted on top of case - that's why I havent noticed it until now) freeze

I did it yesterday, but firstly I switched back to Kingston RAM (the one certified for XMP, but not EXPO) because for those G.Skills I can still return them (and since they are not "working" out of box anyway, then I will just return them), also ran that AIDA64 memory stress test for almost 3 hours and there wasnt any problem, but after playing for another 2 hours, I got freeze once again (2 sticks of 16 GB Kingston FURY RENEGADE DDR5 RGB 6000 MHz CL32) anyway I just tried lowering speed one profile lower (from 6000 MHz 32-38-38-80 1,35V to 5600 30-36-36-75 1,35V), and I guess I just have to wait now

Yesterday, I had it running without any issues for about 10 hours. Today after 30 minutes I got freeze. Also had HWinfo running, but it froze aswell. 0 WHEA both yesterday (yesterday I had it for around 3 hours) and today. Edit: it happened in following scenario - I had game and youtube running, went for toilet and resumed video, froze after couple of seconds.

ah found it, Windows Hardware errors (WHEA)at the very end of sensor window

Can you navigate me a bit please? I cannot find this WHEA counter

I have only activated DOCP (Ram overclock), PBO I have not activated, but it is 7700X, so its the 105W version of chip, so probably its active out of the box? anyway here are the critical logs, havent found export option quickly, so just made some screenshots

so no one has any idea, what might be happening?

Hello, I already tried discussing it here and the solution even worked for a while, but to describe my problem it is a bit of a story time. Firstly I will start with my config: -CPU: Ryzen 7 7700X -GPU: ASUS DUAL Geforce RTX 4070 OC -MB: ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING WIFI -Cooler: ASUS ROG STRIX LC II 360 ARGB -SSD: Samsung 980 Pro 2TB -PSU: ASUS ROG STRIX 1000W Gold Aura Edition -NIC: ASUS XG-C100C V2 -fans: Lian Li UNI FAN AL120 V2 ARGB PWM x7 -OS: Win 10 Pro -RAM: 2x 16 GB Kingston FURY RENEGADE DDR5 RGB 6000 MHz CL32 or 4x 16 GB Kingston FURY RENEGADE DDR5 RGB 6000 MHz CL32 or 2x 16 GB G.Skill Trident Z5 neo RGB DDR5 6000 MHz CL30 or 4x 16 GB G.Skill Trident Z5 neo RGB DDR5 6000 MHz CL30 And I mentioned RAM as last since it is suspected culprit, at least in the last thread that I had here. I started with 32 GB (2 sticks) of Kingston FURY RENEGADE DDR5 RGB 6000 MHz CL32. It didn't look best in the case (Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL, ROG certified), so I decided to buy another 2 sticks. But computer started acting weird because of 4 sticks at 6000 MHz, people here advised me to not use DOCP profile with 4 sticks, since officially supported speeds for 2 sticks are only 3600 MHz, slowly I started overclocking the RAM manually and found out that 5600 MHz 30-36-36-75 worked and was stable (Prime95 for 10 hours, Memtest86 for 4 hours). And it was true, everything ran nicely for at least 2 weeks. Then out of nowhere Windows update came up, which I didn't even applied, it just applied itself (pressed shutdown instead of "shutdown and update" option and update started anyway). And since then everything is screwed again. I play Runescape on one screen (or sometimes both with alt account) and watch youtube in Firefox windowed mode or just listen to it on background and out of nowhere everything freezes, I can move cursor, but basically clicking does nothing, audio from youtube runs for like another minute or so, then audio stops and within minute windows restarts itself. In windows event logger there is just "The system watchdog timer was triggered." and "unexpected reboot", that's it. And now for everything I tried until now. Using default profile with all 4 Kingston sticks. That did not do the trick. Then I decided to switch to G.Skill memory, since these kingston kits are just "XMP certified", but not EXPO certified. I also bought 2 kits of these G.Skill Trident Z5 neo RGB DDR5 6000 MHz CL30 16 GB sticks (2 in kit, 4 overall). I read in reviews, that people had no problem running 4 of them at 6000 MHz, so I just put them in and activated DOCP. With benchmarks (Prime95 and Memtest86), it ran without errors, but in real use it didn't work for me - random freezes again. So next thing I tried was to run just 2 sticks of Kingston memory at 6000 MHz CL32. Started with benchmarks (another almost day), again everything ran without errors, so I started using PC again. It took maybe 2-3 hours, I went for dinner, returned to PC and it was rebooted. So another failed attempt. Then I tried the last option that definitely should have worked and switched to 2 sticks of G.skill EXPO certified memory at 6000 MHz CL30. It took roughly 6 hours of use to get first random freeze. So at this point I am running with 2x 16 GB G.Skill Trident Z5 neo RGB DDR5 6000 MHz CL30, which should be AMD EXPO certified and with almost every configuration (except 4x Kingston at 6000 MHz CL32) all benchmarks run without errors - Prime95 (Large FFT - stresses memory controller and RAM) for 8+ hours, Memtest86 for 3-4 hours (max number of runs in free version). With all the swaps I stopped installing Fury CTRL software/Trident Z lighting controll and just use aura software from armoury crate and I have installed L-Connect 3 for the LianLi fans. I am also running latest Bios (1616) and all chipset and drivers are up to date (using Armoury Crate and Geforce Experience to update them). I was thinking maybe upgrade to windows 11 might do the trick, but honestly I prefer Win10, so haven't done it yet. If someone has any suggestion what else I can try, feel free to suggest it please, honestly I am starting to be kind of hopeless at this point.

ah and it is happening again... win 10 forced udpate on me (even tho I pressed "shutdown" now "shutdown and update") firstly I just tried to lower ram speed... after couple of tries I just set it to default values (everything auto) speeds are on the picture, but now it just randomly freezes everything on my screens (2x runescape client + video in picture mode, just watching wan shows) I have even tried running prime95, everything works just fine... I feel like its the windows update, but I am still on newest bios and all chipset thingies are up-to-date, only update I had pending was for GPU anyone has any suggestions? edit: TLDR of previous comments - I have 4 RAM sticks and ryzen 7 has problem with 4 sticks at full speed, so I lowered frequency to 5600 MHz and everything worked great

I think after 8 hours it should be safe to call it stable right?

well, 5600 at 30-36-36-75, ran without any problems for 75 minutes 6000 at 40-40-40-80 ended in error immediatly, so I guess 5600 is gonna be the ceiling and those are already thightest timings, so I guess 5600 30-36-36-75 it is gonna let it run prime95 large test overnight and hopefully it will work

one thing I noticed, is that the thigthest timings have just the first value low, so maybe even something like 6000 MHz 38-38-38-80 might be working? atm 5600 running at 30-36-36-75 for 15 minutes, gonna let it run for at least an hour and then try 6000

so far I am at the speeds marked in the table below, its running prime95 large test for 25 mins atm previous one (4800 26-31-31-65) ran for like 50 minutes but basically I might be able to push even to 6000 but just with looser timings?

aye I did what you said, DOCP changes these values (DOCP III profile - 4800 MHz): Ai Overclock Tuner [Auto] -> [DOCP Tweaked] Memory Frequency [Auto] -> [DDR5-4800 MHz] Tcl [Auto] -> [38] Trcd [Auto] -> [38] Trp [Auto] -> [38] Tras [Auto] -> [70] DRAM VDD Voltage [Auto] -> [1.10000] DRAM VDDQ Voltage [Auto] -> [1.10000] PMIC Voltages [Auto] -> [Sync All PMICs] Memory VDD Voltage [Auto] -> [1.10000] Memory VDDQ Voltage [Auto] -> [1.10000] I just found the timings in HWinfo according to HW info they look like the small table in attachment and in stick info they are sorted to "enthusiast" "extreme" profiles etc, I guess just going with enthusiast shouldnt do any problem right? atm prime95 large test is running for 30 minutes already, so I guess this profile should work and I can try to push frequency and timings tighter