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Just checked pricing and there's only a £10 difference between the 7400 and 7500, so I might as well go for the i5 7500. Anything higher is completely unnecessary and since it's ITX with heat concerns I have no interest in overclocking

Thanks for the reply dude As an aside, do you know how the i5 7400 stacks up against the 6500? Not seeing any comparison videos yet and it might be a way of saving a little money

I have an upcoming mini ITX build that's becoming a headache nailing down a CPU. Main thing is I already have a solid gaming machine, this is a portable 2nd machine for when I'm away from home. Mini ITX is essential and I want to keep the budget within reason. I just want to play my existing games with reasonable settings, and 1080p/60fps. Nothing crazy. Already got a spare GTX 960 to put inside it, with a GTX 1060 going into it in the future. At the same time I want to avoid significant CPU bottlenecks. I don't play tons of open world games but I do play GTA5 a lot. My main plan is to buy something like an i5 7400/7500 and mini-itx motherboard with built in wi-fi. However there are other possible ways to go on this: 1) Cheap i3 CPU and upgrade down the line. I'm trying to avoid paying over £150 for the CPU if I can avoid it. This new G4560 with hyperthreading sounds like a worthy budget contender too 2) The upcoming AMD Ryzen CPUs. There's the possible Ryzen chips themselves offering i5-level performance significantly cheaper, or the resulting competition forcing Intel to drop the price of Kaby Lake i5s. The 2nd one would normally be a no brainer but there's a further consideration. I've been planning this portable gaming machine for a while and was aiming to have it done around the end of January. If I build it before Ryzen is released and CPU prices drop I'm going to feel like a dipshit. On the other hand, if I wait and AMD push back the release date of Ryzen, or everything releases on schedule and these cheaper CPUs just don't happen (for either Intel or AMD), and I've waited for nothing (or I'm waiting indefinitely for AMD to release Ryzen chips), then I'm going to feel like a dipshit. As it stands I can't find any solid details regarding the Ryzen release date or pricing. I'm not even 100% sure if there will be any AM4 mini-itx mobos, potentially making all of this moot. it's a weird position I'm in. I just want to make a decision one way or the other so I can nail down my parts from specific retailers and be ready to build it in a few weeks. I can maybe wait into Feb but there's no guarantee Ryzen will have dropped by now Any advice/perspective on this is much appreciated