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This is true, but first of all, games will only get more multi-threaded. And like I said, that's a platform dead in the water. Oh, and the motherboards are twice the cost.

You have a 1700 and an AIO but only 8GB of RAM..??

Why? Z370 is already a platform dead in the water, and you get half the threads...

That's true, although I don't play too many of the very demanding games. I'm also a 1440p user with a 1070, which means 99% of the time, the game is GPU bound anyway. Oh sorry, should have clarified. I was going to remove the stock Spire fan and put the Noctua on the heatsink. The Spire is actually a great little heatsink, vapor chamber and all. As for not giving much heat, several other threads were warning against overclocking Ryzen in a SFF setup because of heat concerns. So idk, seems like something I should worry about...

R5 1600 and 1070ti with a lot of SSD storage and a nice case and PSU. That's my recommendation.

Well, I want a platform change, and AM4 seems a pretty great one to switch to. However, I am a SFF guy, so my mobo is ITX and the CPU cooler clearance is very low. This means that temps will be a big issue. My plan is to squeeze a Noctua NF-A9 on top of a Wraith Spire, as that seems like actually a very nice cooler setup. However, this limits my choices to the 1500X and 1600 (I definitely don't need a 1700). Now, I know what you're thinking: 1600, duh! Well, maybe, but again I am worried about heat dissipation and how much of an overclock I could even manage in my SFF case. I am thinking that perhaps a 1500X at a higher overclock will serve me better than a 1600 at a lower overclock. I don't do very many productivity tasks that would leverage the CPU a lot. I mostly do lighter gaming, content consumption, and schoolwork. So my question then stands: will I be able to achieve an appreciably better overclock on a 1500X vs a 1600 given the same temp headroom, and keeping in mind that that headroom is not very big? And even if the clocks would be similar, would the 1600 be worth it, given that I don't do thread-heavy tasks? Thanks a bunch guys, y'all are awesome.

OK, well browsing other forums of people trying to mount 120mm fans on smaller heatsinks, it seems a lot of their temps went up substantially because of all the lost airflow going to the sides of the heatsink rather than through the fins. Also I believe it may be easier to mod the C7 for a 92mm fan attachment. So I think I'll be getting the NH-A9. Thanks for your response though!

Ah, yeah I see the NF-F12 is actually better in all departments except a bit of noise, and even then 22.4dba is pretty quiet. One question, though: Since the C7 is a 92mm-wide heatsink, will I lose airflow down into the heatsink by going with the bigger fan? I've heard that most of a fan's airflow happens at the outer parts of the blades, so will I lose substantial part of that cooling with the 120mm? Or will the additional cooling to my motherboard be worth it? Alongside the obvious less noise?

Hey everyone, I need just some simple suggestions. I need to know which fan (price is -almost- no object) would be the absolute best (cooling performance first, but obviously want it quiet too) to stick on top of the Cryorig C7 in place of the stock. I do not care about looks at all. The motherboard cannot be seen. I would appreciate y'all not asking why, as the story is long, complicated, and not really worth the time it takes to tell. So. I am willing to do mods, etc. but I just would like to know the best fan one could put on top this heatsink. I was thinking maybe the NF-A9, or would the NF-P12 actually do better? Thanks guys,

You will always have a bottleneck in every system. It honestly depends on the game, and certainly on resolution and settings. On 1440p Ultra ~60fps, a 3570 will actually not bottleneck a 1070 very much, simply because that's a ton of work for the GPU to do, so the load is taken off the CPU more. As a rule, higher resolution, higher settings = more load on GPU. This phenomenon will be amplified by DX12 and how it handles CPU/GPU load. However, let it be said: if you're playing Ashes of the Singularity or Cities Skylines, you will absolutely run into stutter. Also, if you're looking for higher refresh rates with lower settings, that CPU will be a limiting factor. So it totally depends on what you're going for. It seems like you have a great upgrade path over the next several years: - GTX 1070 - Better CPU/Mobo/RAM - GTX 1070 SLI Alternatively, if your money ISN'T burning a hole in your pocket, you could do: - GTX 1060 / RX 480 - wait - New system Ultimately it's up to you. Personally, I would not invest in a high-end GPU right now, as the market is in transition between APIs. But that's just me Bottom line, in GPU-intensive scenes/games/resolutions/settings, you won't have a problem with 3570+1070. In CPU-intensive tasks, the age/locked-multiplier of the 3570 will show.

True, true. However (irrelevant to this question of course), for, say, an E-Sports 1080p application, the RX460 4GB makes more sense, with affordability, better DX12 performance, and 4GB of VRAM going for it, all for cost effectiveness in the long term. But to the OP: looking at the RX460 and GTX1050, it seems they are within exactly the same price bracket at 2GB, which is all you need for your specified application. You will hardly notice a difference between the cards, so pick whichever company you like better, or if there's one you like the look of!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125897 - $95 after rebate There is literally no 1050ti or even 1050 anywhere near this price point... what were you referring to?

So here are the prices on RAM right now: Corsair Vengeance LPX: CL15 2666MHZ - $40 Kingston HyperX Fury: CL14 2133MHz - $48 Kingston HyperX Savage: CL12 2400MHz - $55 Which would you suggest? Trying to underclock/under-latency(..?) the Vengeance or pay a bit more for the lower latencies out of the box?

I mean, you could try to find like an old HD 7000 series or an old gtx 700 series on eBay, but if you actually want modern drivers, DX12 support, and any future-proof-ness at ALL, then yes, this is your best bet.

Hello good forum-members, I am about to build a new system with an H110 motherboard. Interestingly enough, the least expensive good-quality 1x8gb stick of memory I can find is a 2666MHz module; however, it has a latency of 15. Is there a way to, while "underclocking" to the 2133MHz limit set by the H110 chipset, also decrease the latency? Or is that hard-and-fast set? Thanks in advance!